Should I really do it?

[Guest Anonymous]

TBH no

[Xantan]

I'm going to take a crack at answering some of your questions, but please don't base your decision on just my answers.

 

The first impression i get from your post is that the guides you've read have made you think seriously about the process. This is a good sign, and despite your age shows maturity. You're right to be wary before diving into this. This takes months of daily work to pay off, and not everyone has that dedication. I'd suggest reading some tulpae accounts of dissipation as well as attention starvation if you want to know what tulpae feel when you stop working with them.

 

Maturity question: i'm past the age of maturity so i can't really say. i'll leave that to a more experienced member.

 

Bilingual question: Your tulpa lives in your mind and uses your speech pathways to learn to speak. He/she can speak and understand any language you can, just as well as you can.

 

Can a tulpa help with social problems?: Yes. lots of people interact with their tulpa as a way of practicing talking with real people. A tulpa is the closest companion you can have, and will probably love to help you become a stronger and more confident person. Tulpa are almost always a force for positive change in your life.

 

TLDR: I don't think you're ready to begin the process, but i do think you're on the right track. spend some more time on the forums, read through some progress reports, and generally learn everything you can. If after all that you feel ready, take it slow and be thorough in your creation.

[Linkzelda]

Here's the thing, even I question my own maturity when I go through trying to acknowledge and help Eva and Ada develop more. If maturity is considered a pinnacle or some kind of apotheosis to have before creating a tulpa, we would all be complete hypocrites. The whole notion with younger people being suggested to not make a tulpa is again, the conceptual schemes are bound to change. However, even if you past the teenage years, claiming a sense of identity is still going to be there, the urge for self-actualization that we have is still going to be there. It may not be as strong as the shifts and turns we (or at least what I went through in my teenage years), but there is a lot of change during that adolescence.

 

The suggestion is just a safety measure, because our belief in them in the initial stages is one of the many things that is the sustenance for their existence. Everything else, meaning the workings of the unconscious mind and how it goes about making the tulpa phenomenon real to the host is completely unpredictable. And if you add that unpredictability with the naivete of a younger person, it's not only (keywords "not" "only") about what comes out, it's not only about the tulpa having the probability of being negative or going through an existential issues/crisis, it's about how the host can handle those situations should they become apparent.

 

Because one of the most challenging things that a host has to bear is their tulpa asking things like:

 

- Why do I exist?

- Why do I need to exist?

- Why do you need me to exist?

- What use does my existence have for you?

- Am I really that equal to you?

- I don't really need to care about you...

- How come I'm not real to others but only to you?

 

And many sorts of questions that if the host doesn't have some competence in learning how they analyze and acknowledge their own existence, it can cause twist and turns that may have the person of that younger age being distracted and less focused on their lives, families, friends, people they have bonds and attachments towards. It becomes a battle with their own nightmares/triumphs/etc., fragments of that being conjured up through their tulpa is probable, and learning how to cope with that probability and learning how to react to it in a way where you learn something from your tulpa and why certain elements/traits/personality/character/etc. is so apparent within your tulpa is crucial, in my opinion, to make a decision to make one or not.

 

Because they are all from your mind (unless somehow there's evidence that shows it's not just that, but it's safe to presume, tulpa aren't other-worldly beings, they're all in your head). We just give more assurance towards older people because that identity search during the adolescent years won't be strong when they're older and trying to make something for themselves. And being older doesn't mean things will be just find and dandy, especially when learning how to cope and find ways to coexist with your tulpa and any partner you might be intimate and have a future marriage/cohabitation/whatever. A younger child couldn't possibly consider those options, they couldn't possibly build models of realities in their heads on how they can handle things like that simply because most won't devote the time to do that when they're busy making conceptual schemes that are right for them.

 

I personally believe the weight gets stronger and stronger, maybe not for all, but for some people who really develop understanding through moments of existential questioning, and the existential questioning is like a double-edged sword. It has the chance to be a truly life-changing moment for better or for worse, and younger people may not have the competence to see that breaking point in existential crisis/issues as a huge learning step towards building harmony with their tulpa.

 

It's not really a matter about maturity in what's immature and what's not, it's really coming to terms with your own mind and being prepared to handle the worst case scenarios and knowing you can develop from flaws and strengths of yourself.

 

 

tl;dr: You might find yourself thinking the experience is a highly complex solipsistic trip where with growing sentience with tulpa comes the growing ability for them to experience suffering. Younger people may not be as empathetic as older people who presumably have more experiential learnings of coexisting with others despite of their differences. Younger people may find themselves being at war with themselves with their urge to build an identity, and if they can't learn during those adolescent years, making a tulpa during those years is unpredictable in terms of how much they can develop rapport with the thought-forms in their reality.

 

And even with older people, the existential questioning may keep growing and growing, and learning how to gain perspective takes time, it takes experience, it takes building higher levels of empathy that younger people may be forgetful about. Because one of many things people may have in their minds is that if they're creating a being that has the ability to suffer just as they can with sentience and sapience to build understanding of it, one wouldn't want to throw away a life like that if they couldn't take the responsibility of bringing them to life. They would be killing a part of themselves because of their own insecurities of not facing reality when trying to self-actualize in all aspects, through your self-schema, your tulpa, and the totality of self.

[Shui]

What Xantan and Linkzelda said. I feel you might be ready. It's not something we can really tell you. Do you think you can see this through to the end?

[Nobillis]

kerin says: I usually recommend against making tulpa, because I consider it unfair to the tulpa. That said, experience has shown me that people will make them, regardless of the advice.

 

So, if it worries you, don't make a tulpa. And, if sometime in the future it doesn't worry you, perhaps then you are in the right 'frame of mind' to start. (To be created, and then suspected, is a very hard thing to live with - and more then a little unfair to my way of thinking.)

 

You are, at least, showing proper concern and consideration. Add compassion to that mix and you will have what you need to be sure. A tulpa could do worse then have a thoughtful person like yourself. Remember, a tulpa will see all the good in you - even the good you have been denying exists - how can you not admire someone when you see how amazing they are? O.k. maybe that some of us see humans 'through rose colored glasses', but wouldn't you rather that we err' in your favor?

[Linkzelda]

Not just the good, the bad as well, and they are presumed to still see the good in you despite of your differences, because it wouldn't be unconditional love if they gravitate towards only seeing the good. It would be like having a thought-form that's just there to massage our egos, and with things like apophenia, self-fulfilling prophecies, we just don't really know. The only thing we can really do is keep questioning and trying to understand as much as we can, no matter how much harmony we can build with tulpa.

 

That's why I tend to balance on a rope with what my tulpa can do for me and what I can do for them, and what their existence and mine would mean in relation to each other. The unconditional love aspect that gets spewed around is just to make people feel at ease, and they misinterpret acts of conditional love to be unconditional. It's no wonder people are indecisive at times when considering making a tulpa, they look at other people's experience, and a few may be bad, but then they see people in general aren't innate sociopaths trying to kill thought-forms in their head. It really confuses newcomers and even members here who've had a tulpa in some aspect in their lives. It seems that no matter how much we make good of this, there's so many things we don't really understand fully honestly. Not trying to scare you OP, but I'm just saying for the sake of informing you.