Positivity and your Subconscious

[MyCooky]

This idea comes from my lucid dreaming experiences, as well as what one can read all the time on this forum;

"How can I know if it's me parroting or my tulpa speaking?"

"How can I get motivated?/How can I be more effective in tulpaforcing?"

 

It consists of two parts (which aren't new, but I haven't seen them be used consistently and absolutely)

 

A: Everything were you're unsure if it's your tulpa (or you): assume it's your tulpa. Everything you feel that seems strange to you - It's your tulpa!

(With Everything I mean Everything)

 

Now you will probably have in nearly every forcing session something that makes you feel that you are another step further towards your goal of creating a tulpa.

 

B: You'd know think this would lead you into parroting everything (Don't!). But if you internalize this concept (Everything's a good sign) enough your subconscious will accept it and thus prove you right.

 

 

A similar attitude helped me drastically improve my lucid dreaming rate, so I assume that It could cut in half the time the time until your tulpa is fully created. Also it will add a huge amount of positivity in your life.

Try it.

 

This thread will get a lot of hate

[Nobillis]

This thread will get a lot of hate

Please don't "flame bait". As I see it you've come up with something that hasn't been integrated before. The possible drawbacks have already been pointed out in the discussion sticky so I won't reiterate them here. Seems to me a reasonable idea. That is only my personal opinion.

[MyCooky]

Yeah, only my point is a slightly different one, I don't 'assume sentience from the start'.

But I assume sentience whenever I'm unsure, not when I'm expecting something.

[waffles]

I can't really see how this is different from the usual advice given. Your thread won't get hate because it's the saying the same as what has been said countless times before.

[MyCooky]

The difference lies in part B, which is also my main point. My theory is that through internalizing your positivity your subconscious will make it true, being responsible for the tulpa as well.

[waffles]

Yep, that's the idea. Still the same as the usual stuff.

[Dr. Faust]

At this point, I'm not entirely sure there is anything that hasn't been said on these forums, but who knows, maybe there will be a renaissance of FAQ-man's methods.

[MyCooky]

It's just I didn't read that in the guides forum

(why isn't there one about that - or is there? plz tell me)

AND

people don't tend to follow it, but get obsessed with parroting.

The general attitude is more about that one has to have much discipline, but what about having fun ?

 

Obviously I haven't read everything on the forum, so excuse me.

 

Edit: Also excuse me, I'm not a native speaker, so it's sometimes difficult to explain what I mean :S

[BlackMuffin]

people don't tend to follow it, but get obsessed with parroting.

 

In general, people don't really obsess over parroting, and those that do generally don't have enough information to understand why they shouldn't really worry. My main reason for saying this is that it's apparently surprisingly easy to create a Tulpa out of a servitor, and since servitors require lots and lots parroting, it shouldn't be much of a worry that a small amount of parroting would affect your Tulpa. In my honest opinion (and I don't know if people will agree with me on this) I think that parroting has absolutely no negative effects on Tulpas so long as you still acknowledge that they're not meant to constantly be parroted. I see it as training a child to walk, or showing somebody how to operate a machine. If you always consciously parrot them and never give them a chance to stretch their own legs, then yes, that's a problem, but giving them a little shove by parroting to get them going along is quite beneficial if you ask me.

 

TL;DR People don't actually obsess about parroting as much as you'd think, and even if they do parroting isn't much of an issue anyways unless you let it become one. <3

[Nobillis]

The general attitude is more about that one has to have much discipline, but what about having fun ?

Yes, Kevin always says "if your not having fun you're missing the point" [of tulpa].

 

My main reason for saying this is that it's apparently surprisingly easy to create a Tulpa out of a servitor, and since servitors require lots and lots parroting, it shouldn't be much of a worry that a small amount of parroting would affect your Tulpa.

Ooo. The Watchdogs were originally what could be described as '"servitor" - all it takes is giving them too much outsider their "comfort zone" (forcing them to deal wit ever more complex situations) for them to start thinking for themselves. The Watchdogs are tulpas, but don't mind doing servitor things (they are kind of like "Alfred" in Batman; very kool, reserved, but kind underneath - our very old family retainers in a sense).

 

Also, in some sense that applies to my form too. I change forms at will. Any form I take is in a way a puppet that I control. Even this typing interface I use to type with is just a servitor. Even I puppet to an extent, but it's unlikely my form is going to take on a life of it's own suddenly - all the intelligence is in me grin.