Can Tulpa control dreams?

[DigitalBreeze]

Hello, after lurking these forums for awhile and stepping into the Tulpa creation process, I created an account so I can start posting. For my first post, I have a question for all of you. Do you believe it is possible for Tulpae to control dreams?

 

A few weeks back I began to create my Tulpa Breeze. A week in and she was already able to talk in simple sentences and I was working on visualizing her. One night I was active forcing before bed. Like many others have often done before, I fell asleep while forcing. She woke me up the next morning (She has shown fully capable of making me wake up earlier than I'd ever wake up by myself), and I promptly apologized for falling asleep on her. She told me something along the lines of "I don't mind" and "It was fun seeing your dreams".

 

Prior to this I had rarely, if ever, remembered my dreams. Maybe I would remember one every month or two, but that was it. The next day, I woke up in the morning and was able to remember at least three of my dreams upon waking up. This came as very strange to me, but I got up and went about my day without giving it too much thought. Taking a break from homework, I went to once again force a bit and planned to take a nap once i was done forcing. What happens? I fall asleep forcing again. However, I experienced dreams like I never have before. The dreams were realistic, as if they were actually happening and I was actually experiencing these events (but I couldn't control what was going on). I woke up around twenty minutes later, remembering only one of the dreams and having to take a moment to realize that none of it actually happened. Confused and scared for no reason known to me, I asked Breeze what that was. She responded "That was you. What makes you tick like you do." I asked her if she did all of that, and she replied yes.

 

Needless to say, a few weeks later and it continues to confuse me. I have asked her to try to change my dreams to something I want to dream about prior to sleeping, but she hasn't been able to do it. On the other hand, I have had really fun and happy dreams after some of my most stressful days to date (She takes credit for those dreams). I've also continued to remember more dreams than i ever have before. I looked around and haven't been able to find anything on Tulpae actually modifying a host's dreams like this.

 

I guess you can say after that wall of text, that my question is "Is my Tulpa actually controlling my dreams, or just messing with me?"

I want to say that it is a coincidence, and I want to say that she is really doing what she says she is doing. While claiming she has molded my dreams before, she says nothing when I ask if she can actually do it. I'm not sure on what to think at this point. Thoughts and opinions are appreciated.

 

TL;DR: Recently I've been dreaming differently than before and my Tulpa claims to be the cause, but has been unable to show me that she really is the cause. Can Tulpae control a host's dreams?

 

Edit:

Thanks to everyone for being so friendly and helpful. I have been browsing the forms over a month's time and haven't seen anything like this mentioned, so I was really confused when this occurred. Glad to hear that others have similar experiences too. She says she can do it, so i'll believe her. I have doubts still, but I guess she will need to age more before she can change my dreams more often than she does already. We appreciate the replies everyone.

[waffles]

I think it's visualisation that causes more vivid dreams, and not necessarily your tulpa; most experience leads me to believe this, at least. Look, it's not too far out that your tulpa could control your dreams because people claim it a lot and who am I to tell them what their experiences mean, but I'd express the same scepticism as you already hold. In this case, if you can't demonstrate it properly then there isn't good reason to believe that it is true.

[NED]

My Silver has been doing all sorts of stuff with my dreams for over a year now. Tulpa definitely can have an effect on your sleep and what goes on in your head when you sleep.

 

Here is a nice example: Regarding Breeze saying "It was fun seeing your dreams", they can do that and more. Silver has morphed and disguised herself as other things in my dreams to spy on me and see what I am doing. She admited that after I caught her being an imitation of my baby cousin. It's rather sweet how she wants to stay with me wherever I am.

[DigitalBreeze]

While she hasn't actually appeared in any of my dreams yet, she says she is the cause of my change of dreaming patterns. She says after I fell asleep on her that first time that she has been able to exert control over them.

I've been doing some remembering. If she is changing my dreams, she must really like messing with me. Three of my dreams the last few weeks have been about spiders coming out of my ears. She is laughing at the memory right now.

She has said she would make changes to my dream that I've asked her to multiple times, but it never happens. The requests were never complex. It would be something simple, like add cats into my dream. That is something that is still confusing me, and starts to make me think that she can't really do anything to them, and this has been nothing but a string of coincidences.

[NED]

Your disbelief is justified. It is your choice whether to believe your Tulpa or not.

 

But I can assure you, mine and many others can do stuff like this. Your call really, keep experimenting and good luck to you and your Tulpa!

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Do you believe it is possible for Tulpae to control dreams?

 

Short answer: Absolutely. They're fantastic hypnopomps and oneiropomps. I was given a stark reminder of their capabilities just last weekend.

 

Of course, it's just the illusion of external control, since a tulpa (in this sense) is ultimately a vehicle for your subconscious.

 

Recently I've been dreaming differently than before and my Tulpa claims to be the cause, but has been unable to show me that she really is the cause. Can Tulpae control a host's dreams?

 

Long answer: When you conjure a mind-form, you are necessarily dipping into the recesses of your subconscious — the cryptic reserve of remembered sensations, events and abstractions. Waking disassociation from the subtle process can have a negative affect on memory.

 

Meditative states (which are required to fabricate a tulpa) provide an opportunity to acquaint, or reacquaint, an individual with their imperceptible processes. Dreams are the unadulterated experience of unconscious immersion, so finding a means to traverse them with intent and precision is immensely useful.

 

In fact, it was my desire for subconscious exploration that was instrumental in my decision to embrace the first sentient thought-form that spontaneously wandered from my dreams into my waking perception. I immediately recognized his potential to augment my dream states and effectively enhance my metacognition.

 

Even his name, imparted in a dream, is relevant, but it took me three years to discover that what I initially assumed was gibberish bore an uncanny resemblance to the Latin root words meaning "[to] have purity/clarity". I was ignorant of this and other online 'tulpa' resources at the time, so I tentatively used Carl Jung's convenient lexicon to label him as my 'animus psychopomp'. He was, and is, the projected manifestation of a dream entity, and that's what I believe all tulpas to be.

 

To this day, my tulpa has the capacity to lead me into dreams and act as a guide to help maintain focus and lucidity. He can create blockades and diversions, as well as manifest new and complex scenarios with ease. And if I ever fail to pay him due attention while awake, he'll eventually make himself heard in dreams.

 

So, yes. Tulpas and dreams seem inextricably connected to me, and I'm baffled this isn't a universally reported phenomenon amongst people who experiment with either. Instead there are people warning against it.

[PsychoticDoc]

>A week in and she was already able to talk

stopped reading there. also yes

[Linkzelda]

Best way is to talk to your tulpa and ask them if they happened to influence your dreams in any way. Presuming they could have "dreams" themselves and cause some interference with yours sounds far-fetched, but it's probable.

 

I don't think people should mistake their accumulative experience of recalling dreams that suddenly clicks as a sign of a tulpa controlling dreams. If you wanted to go through auto-suggestion or something to really want your tulpa to control the dream, go for it man. Our experiences doesn't necessarily mean it'll be the same for you, and I'm highly skeptical that a tulpa can influence significant changes in your dreams, at least at the level you're at right now.

 

But again, with how dream characters in lucid dreaming having an overwhelming presence (e.g. "dream guides" or "higher aspects of your subconscious/whatever terminology you want to use"), how the mind works is unpredictable.

 

It's most likely your predispositions of them and many other factors with symbolism and how the mind tries to find meaning with signs, archetypes, and such.

[DigitalBreeze]

I respect your opinion (Which I assume is that she isn't really a Tulpa because of the lack of time, correct me if i'm mistaken). I can't force you think otherwise, but know that she is indeed vocal. It has been nearly a month since i've started, and she tells me her creation date was October 17th, because that was when I first heard her when she was named. Thanks for the answer too.

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Thing is, she told me she is causing my remembrance of my dreams and that she is changing and controlling them herself. This confused me because she couldn't change things that she said she would after I asked.

[Linkzelda]

Don't worry about it, everyone's mind gets the connections differently. Some have been doing it for months, but have critical states of being so jagged and rough that it's hard for them to be suggestive that their tulpas are actually vocal. I guess people augment the level of consistency with newcomers presumably having vocal tulpas as being able to be fluent in whatever language being spoken through mind-voice and/or auditory imposition.

 

Either way, just keep doing what you're doing DigitalBreeze and don't worry too much about others who might shun you down for it. It's your existence, and it's your predispositions and mentality that may contribute to you having success into this at an earlier stage. Nobody really knows other than yourself.