Tulpa creation going suspiciously fast?

[dragongirl253]

Okay, so, I'm new to tulpa-ing, (tulpamancing, I believe I've heard it called? Sincere apologies for any ignorance I display. >~<) and about 2 days ago, I started creating my first tulpa. So far, everything seems to be going really well, but, like I said, I'm only 2 days in, and he's already talking back to me (to an extent), and changing his design to his preferences, plus he changed his name (from Velancar to Vellace), and I'm already kinda half-automatically visualizing him, like, with little to no effort on my part, but it's only, like, a phantom image in my peripheral vision.

 

Normally, I'd be like, "Oh sweet everything's going better than expected," but I've read so many times that making a tulpa and/or getting them to this stage takes quite a bit of time and effort and whatnot, so I'm sort of questioning if this might actually just be me tricking myself into thinking I'm already this far along? Like, I am aware that everyone goes at their own pace, but is a total newb moving this fast even heard of at all?

 

Also, I suppose that it would be useful information for you all to know that I've had this character all designed and fleshed out and everything (though the design and everything has changed a ton over the years) as my fantasy self's best friend and generally a very prominent character in a fantasy universe of mine for probably at least 4 years now. However, I would also like to point out that I'd never thought of him as anything more than an imaginary character completely written and controlled by me until I decided to make him a tulpa.

I must say that right now, my biggest worry is that Vellace is pretty much almost sentient already, and I'm suspecting that he's not and dismissing his wants and input on things, and generally accidentally being a huge bitch. Or, the reverse, where I suspect he's sentient when he's not and then I take my input to be his and just end up enforcing my own plans and not letting him have any say without ever realizing it.

 

Thank you in advance for any answers or advice, and sorry for any annoying speech pattern quirks or stupidity or anything I have.

[Sophie]

Everybody works at a different speed, and writing about a character does help with sentience. I'd say you're doing fine so far, but expect things to slow down as you move into imposition.

[Linkzelda]

You don’t have to necessarily attribute expectations on certain circumstances (e.g. imposition, vocality, possession). There’s a myriad of factors that could speed up, or stagnate progress, but I don’t think you should be intimidated on the breakthroughs you’ve claimed to have experienced. Whatever the case, keep going through the motions, take appreciation of what was accomplished, and know it’s a progressive learning curve for many.

 

Some people go about repetitive tasks with symbolism, suggestive mantras, etc. like a clever monkey working on a keyboard until “Shakespeare” is typed out (in other words, breakthroughs start happening). You started a few days ago, and what may be a breakthrough to you may be something someone spent for months would glance over and take for granted. Keep going, don’t worry about the totality of generalized expectations for each circumstance of tulpaforcing. Though something that may be pragmatic to consider is imagining it for the long-term may help with perseverance, especially when overcoming hardships that are usually transient in this becomes a deadlock for most newcomers, and even people still into this.

 

Whatever the case, the more experiential learning you gain, the more likely you know how to get over those impasses, assess them, and cope with ones you can’t with diversion.

[Bacn]

If the age on your profile is correct, then that is most likely the reason things are going fast for you. People as young as you tend to report extremely fast progress.

[dragongirl253]

If the age on your profile is correct, then that is most likely the reason things are going fast for you. People as young as you tend to report extremely fast progress.

 

Yeah, I suspected my age might have something to do with it.

[Linkzelda]

It's almost as if ageism is going to be prevalent if that's the case. Younger age isn't necessarily correlated with having naivete of one's own progress, since I'm sure someone much older could have the same naivete as well (especially those with inept interpersonal skills in several relationships). It's just like any other thread where age in years rather than one of a mental construct is debated constantly.

 

If age ends up being a circumstantial factor that is analogous to people feeling as if things are going by "fast" for them, then I wonder what an older person would declare if their tulpa ends up talking like crazy after having to deal with struggles of developing vocality and what have you. Seems like this kind of stuff is promoting patronizing responses, though I guess something like this may end up popping up like a cancer every now and then so older individuals don't feel intimidated or inferior to the youth's naivete that may make things a bit easier for them.

[dragongirl253]

Um... My apologies, but what point exactly are you trying to make, Linkzelda? All I really gathered is that a distinction should be made between mental age and chronological age, and that we need to be careful to not start making older people feel inferior to youth and their naivete... (But also what naivete are you talking about exactly? Like, why would being naive make non-naive people feel inferior?)

 

What I gathered from "People as young as you tend to report extremely fast progress" was just that generally younger people (or younger mentality(?)) might have better imagination or opener minds and so it may be generally easier for them to create a tulpa...

I dunno. I really probably shouldn't even be commenting on this because of my ignorance, but, hey, curiosity killed the cat and satisfaction brought it back, right? o~o

[Linkzelda]

What I gathered from "People as young as you tend to report extremely fast progress" was just that generally younger people (or younger mentality(?)) might have better imagination or opener minds and so it may be generally easier for them to create a tulpa...

 

When you get used to some of the behavioral trends in this forum, sometimes individuals don’t realize they’re being patronizing at times (not directing this to you). So what you feel would be a neutral statement on their end is mostly passive-aggressiveness on their end (not in all circumstances though).

 

Since it’s pretty common for others to react to individuals who apparently have fast progress as either “kidding themselves,” or other things like “roleplaying,” and what have you. Especially when people who are still in struggles tend to overhype the accomplishments of newcomers as overriding their own (not pointing fingers at anyone). Don't worry though, you're doing just fine, just keep it up.

 

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Oh, not stating that the youth needs to be careful, it’s just that everyone of any age should be considerate that ageism may be masking an individual’s inferiority complex (e.g. feeling intimidating that younger newcomers are making progress, while they’re still constantly struggling, and wondering why they can’t make the breakthroughs). But it’s not just older individuals that this can be attributed to, but it’s just a trend that’s been transparent for a while.

 

Which is why I mentioned that sometimes the youth's presumed naivete makes things a bit easier for them. Simply because they can engage in a child-like demeanor to conceptualize things better (and being less concerned of self-sabotaging behavior).

 

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Hahaha, nah, it’s alright to be concerned, wouldn’t want to leave someone in the dust on things like this.

[dragongirl253]

Ah, thank you for the clarification. It's always good to know that there are individuals who don't want to just watch you run out into the community and make a fool of yourself. =)

[Kaga and Company]

I wouldn't say speed is anything to worry about. If anything, isn't that a good thing? Your tulpa is stable enough that they've managed to develop that fast, after all.

 

I mean, I created Sunray pretty much 50% of the way in one night. In a day or two, she became the Sunray she is today. Sometimes that just... happens. But I wouldn't say it's a bad thing.