My Tulpa is not a Tulpa?

[Creature21]

I have a fully undeveloped, day old Tulpa, yes, a Tulpa. Guys in a site saying my "undeveloped-yet progressing Tulpa" aren't "Tulpa" why? Because they claim it will be a "tulpa" in a few weeks, months, or even years, and yes I know that. A undeveloped tulpa, is a tulpa, right? It will be. What they're saying is my Tulpa is not a Tulpa yet because, it is undeveloped, I understand they're point if they are gonna say my "tulpa" is undeveloped.

 

They say people who started and stated they're progress with they're new "tulpa" "haven't learned proper terminology." and all, bashing all those stuff. Why would the guys posting they're progress call they're newly created Tulpas Tulpas?

 

Case maybe;

-Proper Term

-Undeveloped Tulpa, and Developed Tulpa

[Bin]

I don't know what you're supposed to call an underdeveloped tulpa so tulpa sounds fine to me. Besides, not calling it a tulpa kinda conflicts with the assumed sentience method.

 

It'll never be a real space ranger though.

[Discord]

If you want it to be a tulpa, then don't worry, it'll most definitely be a tulpa. The only things it can be are a tulpa, or servitor, and servitors are a lot harder to create. Just keep working on your tulpa, and use guides as a reference, but don't follow any one guide exactly. Read multiple guides and do what's comfortable with you. Just keep believing in your tulpa, talk to your tulpa like it's a real person (including saying good morning and good night), narrate to it throughout the day, etc.

 

Belief and communication are key here.

[Linkzelda]

Some people that have been at this for a while may want to set constraints to newcomers so they won't feel intimidated that someone can do something they had to go through hell and back just to get some breakthroughs in. Of course, this is merely a presumption for some people. I've seen it in threads where some veterans wondered, and compared themselves to newcomers, and wondered what's taking them so long that newcomers could get in a few days. Something to note is that you can't compare yourself to others, since how everyone conceptualizes what's a breakthrough is clearly subjective.

 

Although there can't really be absolute indicators (e.g. more weeks, months, or even years needed) to validate if a tulpa is a tulpa, what you can know is that whatever position you're in the journey, your tulpa can always get better at developing, and learning.

 

If you're fixating on what other people state too much (no one can really go into your mind, and know what validates you having a tulpa, or not), or terminology people create for their own benefit (and maybe for bashing for anyone just starting this journey), you're just going to be confusing yourself, desperately finding ways to see if your tulpa can be a tulpa, and going through a cyclical trend of doubting, and trying to make justifications for yourself.

 

I'd say to just keep going through the motions, and don't bother asking people if your tulpa is a tulpa, especially if you just started on them. It's a self-learning analysis that's a matter of trial and error, and getting used to experiential observation of what makes you different from your tulpa. I still find ways to distinguish between Eva and Ada, and I'm not even intimidated that I can always improve 5, 10, or even 20 years now with them. A mindset you might want to consider is that even if you get confirmations and overwhelming experiences where your tulpa is clearly there (e.g. sentience, vocality, imposition), if you stop at those moments you would consider pinnacles, or breakthroughs, you're just distracting yourself from getting better with them.

 

It's good to keep those moments in your memory, because they can be used as inspiration, just as the experiential cases of mine with them is part of persevering in this. If you honestly think you could analyze all there is to your tulpa in just a few days, especially if you're going along with the implications of assuming and treating them as sentient beings, you're just making this harder for yourself.

[Nicoman]

Thinking of the process as sculpting clay we can say the end result is a sculpture, but of what? That would be for the artist to decide, in your case it would be a Tulpa.

 

But as for a term for the development its a block of clay, so moving from that example people call an undeveloped adult a child. (Not to argue what make a adult, they claim it happens after so many year, depending on the culture)

 

So if the Tulpa is the "adult" want is the child? Tulpa-child? Or Mind-child, Or tulpett if not too condescending. Better than Undeveloped Tulpa.

 

I am a little surprised the such a discussion hasn't taken place with this community that will on occasion try to objectify the subjective or subject the objective.

[Vos]

Some people have called it a pre-tulpa on the IRC, but I prefer to just call them tulpas. I'd be treating them differently if I called them a pre-tulpa, and that ties in with what Bin said about assuming sentience from the start.