Just beginning to make a tulpa, slightly confused by conflicting guides

[Nats]

Hey everyone! First of all, I'm new, so I'm sorry if this is in the wrong section or if I've made any other mistakes.

 

ANYWAY, I've been going through the process of creating my tulpa for about a week now. I read FAQ Man's Creation Guide the first day I got started, and he really seemed to emphasize working on personality. This made a lot of sense to me, but during the next few days I found that meeting his standards of "15-30 minutes per personality trait" was really rough for me, I'd usually run out of things to think about with a specific trait after just a few minutes.

 

On the fifth day I got kind of fed up with how poorly I was doing and found an other guide, 'Kiahdaj's Absolute Guide to Tulpas'. In this guide, it was emphasized that personality is a completely optional step. After reading this I decided to skip right to visualization, but reading two completely conflicting things has made me a bit uncertain as to whether I'm doing this correctly or not.

 

What are your opinions? What methods have worked successfully for you guys? I keep hearing that this is a subjective experience and that there's no 'right way', but I'm bad at that sort of thing, I need instructions :P. Plus I find it hard to believe that just mentally narrating to myself and visualizing what I want my tulpa to look like will just cause my tulpa to actually be created. Is that really all I need to do?

[Stevie]

FAQ man's guide is considered outdated, and has a lot of stuff that isn't totally necessary (i.e. stuff like having to imagine your tulpa naked, hour counts, etc) and while it has a lot of useful information, it's not an end all be all. Both his and Irish's guides were created in the infancy of this whole thing, and the newer guides are a reflection of how the community has grown and changed.

 

Personally, I picked personality traits, and I forced them, but not for any specific amount of time for each trait. There's people who don't do personality at all, and instead just narrate to their tulpa, and when they talk back, they have some sort of personality already intact, just from narration, expectation, and general forcing.

 

It's all up to you. You don't have to follow any guide to the letter, and to echo something that's been said, there's no wrong way to make a tulpa.

 

I think the most important part is just spending time and effort on it. Putting your thoughts to it, and really paying attention.

 

I'm just "hanging out" with mine, talking, doing stuff in the wonderland, whatever, and that's how I active force. I'm not following any guide to the letter, because that's just what guides are- guides. People have different viewpoints, and the guides do conflict with one another, but that's normal. Kiadaj's guide is great, and I've also taken bits of CreativeMind's Tulpa Handbook.

 

Really, you just have to find what works for you, and what you enjoy doing, as well as what brings progress. If you have to read a bunch of guides and cycle through a few different methods, that's alright too.

[sushi]

What Stevie Irons said. Personality is optional. It wasn't part of the ancient Tibetan methods.

 

When I started with Fenchurch, I picked out thirty traits, but never spent any time forcing them or anything. She's deviated very little -- pretty much still exactly the personality I picked out for her.

 

So yeah. Put as much or as little into personality as you want to. It's like cooking bacon -- when you think you're done, you are.

[GuessWho]

Personally, I think the older guides are better / more effective.

Newer guides tend to take focus less on actively developing visualisation and personality and undersell the importance of active forcing.

 

The thing is: each person is different, so no guide is going to be a perfect template for you.

 

The best to to find a comprehensive and reliable guide that you think may suite you and the adapt it slightly to fit your own lifestyle and personality.

[Linkzelda]

Plus I find it hard to believe that just mentally narrating to myself and visualizing what I want my tulpa to look like will just cause my tulpa to actually be created. Is that really all I need to do?

 

I made a guide you could try out if you want to practice your visualization here:

 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1guub6JF0OGVheUPzddtMyZKHqnrcnuWLYufwGhc3Fmc/edit?pli=1

 

, and

 

 

My next goal is to do 12-14 hours of imagining Ada, and her doing all sorts of stuff. It's not as hard as you think it is, or maybe I'm just undermining myself. If you feel a tulpa's existence can't be contingent only on visualization and narration, that's your call; you could easily presume they're just stepping stones towards that implication. Everyone's mode of ethics in how they augment their propensity in treating a tulpa as sentient is subjective in some way, and may become more grandiose than just a few activities and concepts (e.g. head pressures, personality traits).

[Nats]

Thank you for all of the replies, guys!

 

I decided to skip forcing the personality. I've heard that it can lead to a personality that you subconsciously want. I tend to have trouble knowing or realizing what I truly want, so I think that'll be best.

 

So now I've started passively narrating to her throughout the day, and I tried earlier to sit down for about an hour and just try my best to visualize how she'll look. All the parts are kind of flaky and change everytime I reimagine her, but I think that's just something that will fix itself naturally. Unless I'm really bad at visualizing or something anyway.

 

Anyway thanks again guys, doing this right means the world to me and whenever I think about me and my tulpa in the future I get happy chills ^_^

[Ashmo]

Kiahdaj's guide was my foundation. Then I let the moment move me from there. If it felt right, and it felt productive, I did it. If it didn't seem to do anything, or was tedious to the point where I was more distracting myself than anything, I trimmed it away until I found my own forcing style.

 

That's what you really need to do, find your own way. The only real rule is "as long as it works for you, go with it".