Tulpa as allround medicine?

[Darcmanish]

Hey guys.

I got ill a while ago and thought its gonna be the flu. I was already prepaired to spend the next 2 weeks in my bed when Lacie said im gonna be healthy tomorrow again. I felt realy bad at the evening and told her that i dont think i could even leave my bed tomorrow. Anyway i slept very well that night which is already pretty unuasual for me when im ill. I realized that my body moved while i waked up at night but it was Lacie who switched with me so i could rest along the night. I usually need 20-30 minutes to sleep again after i woke up but not this night i basicly slept 10 hours without realising

what happened this night and i had nearly no memories of my dreams which is also very strange.

But after i woke up Lacie just smiled and asked how do i feel? I didn´t feel bad but i wasn´t 100% healthy either so i said im fine but i basicly was able to do anything today i would have done normally. I think my body just passed the flu in one day and recoveres now.

 

I have tree theories for this:

-Maybe it wasent the flu and just something small like an infect which was pretty strong for a day.

-My subconscious realised the input of Lacie and started to block symptoms

- Maybe Lacie did realy helped my body to overcome a illness in a short time which dosen´t sound impossible for me.

 

I had knew Lacie is able to block incoming pain if i ask her.

And i also had the flu(or his little brother the infect) a month ago with the same effect i had today. 1 peaceful night was enought to recover.

 

I watched a doku some days ago which basicly explained how our mental health is connected with our physical health. I also read about the placebo effect which says that medicine which ill people are using is replaced with a ineffective substance without the consumers knowledge is able to reach the same effect as the medicine doese.

 

Beside the fact that my tulpa helped me healing my depressions and many many personality problems it seems that her influential on my mind is able to help my body heal a phisical illness.

Well almost every illness starts with a problem of the mental health so it seems very plausible to me.

 

Id like to hear the expierience you guys have with similar situations like this or how your tulpa effected your healthness generally.

[Linkzelda]

I had a major flu in a certain town that had a flu outbreak for a while, which unfortunately affected how I performed during a few exams a few years back. When I went to sleep for a few hours, I woke up, but wasn’t even able to know if 2+2 = 4 anymore before going back to sleep again. My head hurt really bad, but I don’t think feeling better was contingent on Eva’s existence as some cure for a mental or physical ailment.

 

If we wanted to utilize certain standpoints that fixate on biochemical and other processes that may help “alleviate” certain ailments, it would raise questions if the end result of feeling better was wholly contingent on a tulpa presumed to exist within that host’s subjective experience. Maybe her existence contributed to you having highly emotive responses to where the pain just seemed like nothing because you may have imagined a futuristic framework of conquering through it, which probably led to your body naturally at your accord to reach that endeavor/goal, i.e., psychosomatic experience ( I think?)

 

But honestly, if our mind was predisposed to help alleviate certain ailments by requiring a tulpa’s existence to contribute towards that to refer to certain processes to do said processes, then it probably explains the melancholy disposition people express at times in the forum, but again, that was professed in jest.

[Darcmanish]

I had a major flu in a certain town that had a flu outbreak for a while, which unfortunately affected how I performed during a few exams a few years back. When I went to sleep for a few hours, I woke up, but wasn’t even able to know if 2+2 = 4 anymore before going back to sleep again. My head hurt really bad, but I don’t think feeling better was contingent on Eva’s existence as some cure for a mental or physical ailment.

 

If we wanted to utilize certain standpoints that fixate on biochemical and other processes that may help “alleviate” certain ailments, it would raise questions if the end result of feeling better was wholly contingent on a tulpa presumed to exist within that host’s subjective experience. Maybe her existence contributed to you having highly emotive responses to where the pain just seemed like nothing because you may have imagined a futuristic framework of conquering through it, which probably led to your body naturally at your accord to reach that endeavor/goal, i.e., psychosomatic experience ( I think?)

 

But honestly, if our mind was predisposed to help alleviate certain ailments by requiring a tulpa’s existence to contribute towards that to refer to certain processes to do said processes, then it probably explains the melancholy disposition people express at times in the forum, but again, that was professed in jest.

 

Wow your english is realy hard for me to understand sry but if i understand it correctly you gave me a answer based on science and logic. Im an realy unlogical and self-destructive person who tend to check out the world with my personal emotions rather then my logical mind. I know the fact that im feeling better is becuse my subconscious made me think im going to feel better tomorrow. Its like a placebo effect without a substance but with belives that couses a hormone- release including those which are helping the immune system. I basicly understand this science aspect of it and i also gave Lacie the access to change and order my mind and subconscious to manipulate me into my own hapiness. Its becuse i trusted her that i will be healthy tomorrow i actually got healthy again. The result is undeniably im not ill anymore and thats good.

With mind controll of your brain youre able to blend out the pain of your body anyway. For me Lacie is a medium to reach a better mindcontroll of my own.

Since i do meditate every day im realising the potential of my brain and how belives do influence the own perspective.

Well if theyre would be many humans which are able to reach this state of mindcontroll with training, having a tulpa or meditation, their child could be able to learn them "naturally" from there obtained dns. So i think creating a tulpa which would be able to help recovering the healthiness of the body and mind could become natural evolution.

 

Atleast it worked for me and for some reasons i think getting ill again will be more difficult for me now with Lacies input.

[Linkzelda]

Just to point something out, nothing I'm saying has scientific evidence to back it up. This is really just idea playing here, and me trying to use certain standpoints that are probably more philosophical than "scientific." IMO, even if Lacies' existence helps out with certain ailments, doing so may not really be an end-all be-all replacement from supplements, and whatever medicine that have a lot more empirical foundations for said ailments. But I'm not saying her existence within your perspective lacks merit because that's hardly the case here, so if that was the implication, I do apologize for that.

 

With that said though, I share the sentiment with reveling in one's imagination along with their tulpa to where they see how they spend so much time treating them as sentient can probably help them see how that devotion can be shifted into how they view life in general. In other words, after so much time doing something like this, being able to refer to certain things to make decisions quickly to reach an end result that can be of great benefit to you and your companion would seem like a natural desire for people to have. I guess having the mindset akin to where one has the back-to-the-rudiments that extends to other attitudes that can be of benefit to them, and being able to cycle through and refer to any in and out as they please can be helpful in doing things more intelligently even after going through some challenges.

 

So maybe this made you tempted to seeing the actual interaction and acknowledgement of a tulpa with the analogue/example of them being an all-round medicine, albeit without the "scientific" foundations behind what medicine really is; more of a metaphorical example, if you will.

[tania]

There are a lot of 24hr viruses around so I think its a big leap to go thinking when you don't even know exactly what virus you had, that your tulpa helped it. sorry.

 

All the kinds of things which hypnosis is known to fix though could possibly be fixed by your tulpa (there are many different illnesses that wouldn't work on eg diabetes for example).

[Luminesce]

Wow your english is realy hard for me to understand sry but if i understand it correctly you gave me a answer based on science and logic.

 

This made me laugh. Yeah, that about sums up all of Linkzelda's posts.

 

 

TL;DR, tulpas are a good medium for the placebo effect. Many things that the human mind is capable of doing with the placebo effect are also possible for tulpas to do.

 

Without "science and logic" we can't really go much further than that though. Basically, your tulpa can alleviate pain and increase focus and improve your mood and help you solve problems and.. Yeah. The placebo effect is a powerful thing.

 

Though admittedly its effect on viruses is probably minimal, the placebo can't cure a sickness, but it can help you feel better whilst being sick. (I think there's some correlation between general happiness and immune system though? Don't know, never looked into it. I don't really get sick.)