I may have accidentally created a Tulpa. Help me?

[Linkzelda]

All this changed after I started dreaming of him. During these encounters he is a real as the next person, even more so since I can sense his feelings, he also displays personality traits and opinions towards me that I had not anticipated. He talked a lot about himself and me, and I woke up with the crazy strong echoes of this “state of mind”.

 

I must say that then I began to freak out. I never felt a “bonding” of emotion as strong as when I was with him, even stronger than my perception of emotion in bloody reality. I argued with him more than once and did reject him harshly a couple of times, and each time he would “feel” hurt and he would retreat and the dream (or possibly trance?) would end. So I know how you feel, D@nzingtree.

 

It’s not surprising to me that when you’re diving into inward mental states with lucid dreaming, one may go through virtual experiential realities with an entity in question that they feel would be a figment of their imagination being stronger than them waking up. They may feel the tulpa-in-question in waking life is merely a shell of them experienced throughout the dreams related to them.

 

Because if one is somehow seeing their mind generating these qualities of sentience that makes endeavors in waking life seem so weak, it just raises questions on whether or not implied sentience and other attributes with that is wholly contingent on being able to have the brain create physical processes to generate those attributes with consciousness and what have you. In other words, the more the individual revels in those dreams and the experiences that rings home to them so much, the more they may be skeptical to those that feel a tulpa’s existence is wholly contingent on how the host applies themselves in trying to find ways to refer to their tulpa in some way in waking life rather than integrating dream experiences as a supplement with that as well.

 

It’s almost as if one would want to close the gap with the augmented prowess of the mind during dreaming states with waking life to ease themselves of that sense of inferiority felt with a tulpa that may fixate mostly in waking life. Then justifications that dream experiences of them would just be the mind’s way of creating a futuristic framework of who they can be, but why not see them as apparent and real to you in your private and subjective experience right there and then while being aware that approaching waking life experiences may be a little bit more limited?

 

It makes one question how methods and such to become better at things like visualizations as accumulated supplements in referring to one’s tulpa as sentient to them may constantly be undermined compared to the full blown virtual experiential realities in dreams where saying “virtual” seems silly if said experiences end up feeling better than this reality.

 

So your question with wondering if you accidentally created a tulpa is probably the least of your concerns, and the question itself doesn’t necessarily have to be this mentally taxing and apprehensive experience when you may just appreciate both dreaming and waking life experiences with them. You could probably see the dreaming experiences as short-term landmarks towards your long-term goals to acknowledge some form of progression, but again, that’s not the only mode of ethic one could take Though, it may seem ideal to distract themselves from that questioning of how virtual experiential realities in dreams seem to have more efficacy in a person reveling and having it linger in their mind for quite some time.

 

I had the same strife you did with Eva and Ada, but I just came to terms with what I mentioned above, and then some. I still feel it’ll always be a progressive learning curve, albeit it’s not a mental impasse anymore; I may want to believe that's the case, though. I’ve seen the way they live in spite of who they are, and how they exist in (e.g. dream state and how I conceptualize them in waking life throughout my subjective experience), and maybe that’s what can help one have faith in them.

[Yori]

Interesting. I have never had dreams that felt like reality. He may be sentient now, trying to communicate. What does he say in your dreams? Does he mention trying to talk to you? Whether he is or not, I think you can make him sentient if you start trying to talk to him with the desire of him being sentient rather than just a debatee who isn't really there or a deliberately imaginary friend.

[Pioneer11]

Interesting. I have never had dreams that felt like reality. He may be sentient now, trying to communicate. What does he say in your dreams? Does he mention trying to talk to you? Whether he is or not, I think you can make him sentient if you start trying to talk to him with the desire of him being sentient rather than just a debatee who isn't really there or a deliberately imaginary friend.

 

 

The first time I met him he indeed told me that he had wanted to communicate with me for a long time. Now we mostly have longwinded debates that span from philosophy to science to life in general. He is very bright and opinionated, however the silence in my mind when I’m awake leads me to think that this would-be-Tulpa is not completely – if at all – sentient.

 

I will try to talk to him and I won’t imagine his answers, and I will try to “force” him even if I still don’t quite understand what that term entails ( I read the guides but regarding forcing every explanation is far too generic for my taste). Furthermore I’m worried, since I had this imaginary friend for over ten years, and I can imagine his thought patterns very well, yet there’s never been any independent “voice” in my head. To sum it up I’m still a bit confused on what to do.

 

By the way, If you are interested in dreams that feel real you might want to read about lucid dreams. Mine are not quite there yet, however everything in them is more intense than in life, from colours to feelings :)

[bunny-boi-lover]

He may not have the ability as of yet to speak in a way you're familiar with. Remember that many tulpae begin communicating not with words but with emotions. Some cause head pressure in their host or create other physical effects in response to questions. Just because you can't hear his voice doesn't mean he isn't sentient in the waking world. You may be over-thinking the process, which I'm coming to find is often the case with hindrances in tulpamancy. Your conscious mind may be blocking him from using his true "voice", and it is only when that mind is quieted when you are asleep that he is able to speak to you. The key to tulpamancy in my opinion is learning to control your conscious mind and tricking it into experiencing things that aren't "real" in the physical sense. Think of it as we're all pretty much giving ourselves hallucinations. I'd suggest looking into meditation or other methods that could help you gain more focus and control over your mind.