megazoark August 30, 2015 August 30, 2015 I know that it may be already explained on a guide, sorry if it is but, how do you know when your tulpa is fully sentient? Does it has to be fully vocal to know that is sentient? Or does it just happens? Also how much time did your tulpa took to be fully sentient and or vocal? Sorry if it is a stupid question, and I also know that it may different for every person but I just wanted to know what to expect. -Thanks :)
Guest Anonymous August 30, 2015 August 30, 2015 Melian: When your tulpa gets pissed because you bothered to ask this question and you have to apologize in public and give her imaginary flowers, she is probably sentient. Mistgod: Then again, it may be your own imagination wanting her to be angry and so, as part of the mental game, you find yourself apologizing to your imaginary friend. She seemingly forgives you only after you grovel in public. Then you wonder if, perhaps, you have gone completely mad.
megazoark August 30, 2015 Author August 30, 2015 I may be a closed minded person, but how do you know when they get mad, happy, etc. I feel so stupid asking this again, but I feel that they only get mad if you want them, or make them get mad, or it is just that I have to do more forcing. Again sorry for asking the kinda same question :p
Guest Anonymous August 31, 2015 August 31, 2015 Melian: OH you will know when she is pissed if she is female buster. I feel that they only get mad if you want them, or make them get mad... Mistgod: That could be. Really, it comes down to what you want to believe. Trust me it is far simpler if you stop worrying about sentience altogether. Just treat the tulpa as if it is sentient and be done with the question of whether or not he or she actually is. You will avoid fights that way too. In my case I believe my thoughtform Melian is simulated sentience. She maintains she is possibly more than that and I have to be careful to respect that as much as I can. LOL
megazoark August 31, 2015 Author August 31, 2015 Yeah, I think I should just forget about it and just go on with the process, I might just "know when she is fully sentient", and I just hope she doesn't get pissed off :D
joe August 31, 2015 August 31, 2015 It's sentient when it does things on it's own accord, basically. Try to lookup some sentience-confirmation tests like the 'surprise me' trick, those'll tell you what you want to know. From personal experience however, it should be very clear to you when it's sentient. Until that magical moment just assume it's sentient without over-estimating progress.
Nobillis August 31, 2015 August 31, 2015 For some people, they know their tulpa is sentient when she can drive a car, has a job earning money on Earth, moderates a tulpa-related web site, and has a "special someone". For others, it's just when she can smile back. Everyone has different standards for "sentient", I think. This is all just my opinion though. Please consider supporting Tulpa.info.
Reisen September 1, 2015 September 1, 2015 Flandre: When they sound like them! I suppose. When we talk, even though you can still think "maybe I thought that", the thoughts really seem to be separate from yours. This is pretty obvious when a tulpa replies, "No, this really is me talking." and you didn't intend for them to say that. But that's not the moment they become sentient so much as the moment you realize and accept it. A tulpa can have its wishes and intent fulfilled from the very start, and I consider that them existing. It's really just independence that improves with time, until they can finally convince their host that they aren't being controlled anymore. But you're not really "controlling" them.. that sounds so coarse. You're simulating their existence, by doing what they'd want to do/say, to your brain. Telling your brain how your tulpa should work, until it finally gets the idea and starts doing it on its own. So.. it's a lot of practice really. But don't think that your tulpa doesn't exist yet, that it can't enjoy spending time with you, or that you're invalidating its experiences by "controlling" it. That's just all part of the process, nothing to feel bad about. Keep at it and at some point, you'll realize your tulpa just doesn't sound like :you: anymore, but themselves. Hi guys, plain text is just me now! We've each got our own accounts: me, Tewi, Flandre, and Lucilyn. We're Luminesce's tulpas. Here's our "Ask Thread", and here's our Progress Report (You should be able to see all of our accounts on the second page if you want)
Stevie September 1, 2015 September 1, 2015 I may be a closed minded person, but how do you know when they get mad, happy, etc. I feel so stupid asking this again, but I feel that they only get mad if you want them, or make them get mad, or it is just that I have to do more forcing. You know they get mad if you're getting pissed off vibes from them, or if you visualize them and they're visibly mad, or if they tell you they're mad. One of the big selling points of tulpas is that they're autonomous, which means they do and feel things without the conscious control of their host. Whether that's all done unconsciously or independently is a matter for another thread, the point is, that tulpas don't feel like they're being controlled by you. If you're not experiencing that yet, then yeah, you should force more. It'll come with time, bro. We're all gonna make it brah.
megazoark September 2, 2015 Author September 2, 2015 Thanks for all the help, I will be more patient with it ;)
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