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  1. Do not misconstrue my attitude toward tulpamancy from the title, I value tulpas as a method of social fulfillment, I am making this to publicly ponder as I have in my head. I have been thinking about how tulpamancy might be applied in a way that could be directly beneficial to others than the host, in other words a practical application, I have heard that the current weight lifting world record was set by a man who only managed to lift that much because a hypnotist convinced him that if he didn't lift the weight his daughters would die. While this may or may not be true it is fairly well known that humans are known to be able to exceed their known limits in times of peril, this would mean that there is some sort of psychological block in place that prevents us from breaking our limits. I will not deny that hormones certainly have an effect however if you can make a tulpa that can ignore the psychological limits then you can create a tulpa that will respond to the given situation by releasing adrenaline in a beneficial manner. I do understand that there are some moral concerns with doing this however I think that a servitor could achieve the intended result and thus no sentient beings would be harmed in the given situation. I do also understand that those blockers are there to prevent yourself from overexerting and dying, to that I have nothing to say, this is just theory after all.
  2. Sorry if this aint the right place for it, but I really feel like I just cannot keep a good habit of getting Forcing and the like done. Like, its sorta strange too, because its not just "ughhh i dont want to do this", its also got a bit of "what if Im puppeting too much and Im gonna screw it up", or "am I just doing this wrong in general". So uh, any tips and or tricks to actually getting around to helping em out? I dont want to just leave em in the dust AGAIN. Ive done it for too long already.
  3. Hi all, I'm (intentionally) creating a tulpa for the first time. She's a dragon named Celestine. I've been working on her for a little under two weeks, though more sporadically than I'd like. She's already a bit talkative and fairly inquisitive about our surroundings. I asked her if she wanted to try hot chocolate, and she agreed. While walking to a coffee shop on our campus, I decided to imagine her walking beside me so that we could get some more active forcing in. We chatted a bit, and I told her about an experience I had a few years back. I have an OC that I created five years ago that's very dear to my heart. I have roleplayed as them or with someone playing them quite a lot, and I hyperfixated on something a friend and I wrote that has them as a main character. Last summer, I found out about the loss of someone who roleplayed as them with me in the past; to process my grief, I imagined my OC and I talking about it. To this day, I draw them a lot, write about them a lot, and talk about them a lot. In 2022, I was having a bad day and was pretty upset. As I was starting to cry, I clearly heard their voice in my head say "Everything's going to be alright. I'll always be here for you if you need me, okay?" After feeling very calm for a second, I immediately freaked the hell out. The friend that I wrote about them with has DID, and the host + several of their alters are extremely against tulpas and endogenic systems. It's something that they had made exceedingly clear, and still do. I was terrified that they would hate me, so even though I felt confused and a little scared, I didn't tell anybody about it. Instead, I did my best to ignore what happened and intentionally shut down anything that came out of it. My OC didn’t come back. I explained that stuff to Celestine as we were walking to get hot chocolate (sans my friend’s involvement; I try not to worry about that too much around her). I also described my OC’s appearance, and a bit of their personality. I mentioned that once I get Celestine to a good place, I might try to revive them, if we were both okay with that. She immediately got distracted by rolling around in the snow. A while after we got to the coffee shop, she told me that she was tired and went to go take a nap in the mindscape. I sat by myself and read a book. When I got up to head home, I forgot what she was doing and tried to talk to her. I immediately heard my OC’s voice in my head saying “Shh, she’s sleeping. You could wake her up.” Startled, I asked if it was them, and they said it was. My OC’s voice was very loud and clear, almost as much as it was the first time. They were definitely louder than Celestine, the tulpa I’m already working on! They even respond if I call their name, hence omitting it from this post. I was planning on waiting to see if I handle sharing my brain with one person well, let alone two, and both have fairly intense personalities. I'm also worried that focusing on my OC too much could lead to some backtracking with Celestine. Is this… a thing that happens??? How should I handle it??
  4. I understand that this looks bad as my first post in this forum, though I assure the reader that I am also regulary interested in tulpamancy and there will be more posts that are more pertinent to this forum in general that are to come from me. So I was just having a normal conversation and tulpas came up and then someone said to research "Max's tulpa saga" thus far I have found nothing of the sort that they had suggested might be out there, I have found lots regarding several Maxs (Maxes?) but so far I am unable to determine anything conclusively. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated and I am very sorry if this seems like troll bait I know basically nothing about the internet tulpamancy community. Thank you all in advance and have a very happy new year
  5. The translator translates very poorly, more than half of the text is unclear.
  6. Just a spot for me and Sasha to chill and for others to get to know us.
  7. Some tips on how to not create a Tulpa: - Never focus on them; always focus on other things and spend your time elsewhere - Avoid giving them a physical form or personality in your mind - Refrain from spending excessive amounts of time thinking about or interacting with them - Don't create an emotional attachment to them - Spend time around other communities I hope these guidelines help you not create a tulpa!
  8. So I was thinking recently about creating a tulpa, I researched it and stuff. I found some information that partly answered my questions, but not fully. I wanna be sure that I am understanding this correctly and get some more details. So, I am on self improvement right now, and I think a tulpa might help me with motivation to work out, meditate, etc. I just wanna have a "gym bro" who would encourage me, and congratulate me on my achievements. I don't have such a person in real life. Also, besides that, I am a pretty strange guy, (not in a creepy way) like, many of things I'm interested in and care about are contraversial. They are too deep/boring for my friends. It would be really awesome to have someone who understands and helps me. So, will tulpamancy help me with that? Are they helpful for something else, so I can be convinced even more? Are there any downsides? Thanks.
  9. Cinderella: The purpose of this thread is simple, Over the course of the last couple months I and a couple of the others, mainly Junior and Tony, have been working on a hypothesis to help develop a new pseudo PP skill based upon the at this point infamous phrase "It's just confabulation." The concept of false memories is an old one and while psychology is still iffy on the concept of memory in general, it is generally agreed upon that false memory development is indeed a real thing. This is something that has appeared in the tulpamancy community quite often, especially when discussing the holy grail of true parrallel processing, the ability to go do stuff completely independent of the current fronter's attention at all. It is obvious why such a skill as parallel processing is persued by the community, as it would solve so many of the basic problems a tulpamancer faces. The current science is not shining favorably on parrallel processing when held to such a high standard though. Only time will tell on how that supposed phenomenon is eventually classified, but my system is going to be exploring alternative options alongside it so as to not end up pursuing an impossible mission. In this regard it is my opinion that purposely developing "confabulation," the power to quickly make semi-detailed memories that feel as real as a true experience, would be an excellent way forward in solving the wasted time problem and generally improve the lives of the system as a whole. I have already applied it to a messy extent in my own life, Junior and I choose to believe that we do things in the inner world when dormant, and low and behold when we actively think there are memories availible of what we did during that time. Sadly as many others report these memories are foggy and when looked into lack as much detail as experience produced memories. These memories are still important to us though and even include some of what we'd consider important memories to our lives. I do not see them as lesser inherently and so the personal motive for this thread is obvious, I wish to improve my life and relationship by offering a way for more experiences to be subjectvely had regardless of true time of happening. The mind is a subjective instrument at the end of the day so if the experience feels real enough why should it matter to me? There is also a fascinating concept we continually ran into within the wider plural community when we went in search of new potential tulpamancy techiques among them, the phenomenon of exomemories. To put it simply, an exomemory is a memory that appears to come from outside the body's experience, including the wonderland/inner world. The most obvious example to a tulpamancer would be the case of a fictive that claims to have detailed memories of their source lives despite never actually experiencing it. In more superstitous or spiritual people this could be viewed as the truth of the matter, but I personally am a materialist and view exomemories as a unique and beautiful form of artificial memory experiences. These reported exomemories can be a vague as my personal experiences with artifical memory, but are also often reported as being extremely detailed. Alters have claimed to experience entire second lives before introjection with advanced exomemories to prove it that sometimes make real memories pale in comparsion. These memories can have intricate subtle details, high emotional impact, and there is even a common phenomenon of people experiencing actual trauma responses to source exomemories, I cannot be the only one who see's the implications of such a experience. Quite frankly, I want this level of detail and depth in my own artificial memory experiences. Now that all of this has been said I shall explain what this thread is for. This thread is a commitment from me and the others in my system to dedicate time to personally experiment with artifical memories, both exo and inner world, in order to improve upon amount, quality, detail, duration, and frequency of occurence, then share findings with the community. Our system has quite a share of diversity in terms of tulpa origin and experience, and so will have many great candidates to experiment with. The main subjects will be myself, as I am the one most interested and hold resonsibility for the effects of this on the mind, Junior, who is my closest partner and a Majima fictive, making him ideal for exomemory experimentation, Rarity, also a fictive, and Tony, a walk-in who already possesses some basic exomemories unrelated to an outside source. Over the course of the next couple months I will report hypotheses, experiments, and personal findings to you all and ask for discussion and ideas to further my work. As should be obvious this is a highly experimental and subjective practice so if anyone decides to try it with us the potential risks fall upon you to mitigate and handle. That should be all for the introductory piece, feel free to share thoughts, comments, concerns, and potentially useful material in this thread aswell as discuss your own experiences and experiments with the subject matter, I want this to succeed to the more data available to tinker with the better.
  10. I told my parents about my tulpa. I even showed them a website explaining what a tulpa is and how it's not a bad thing, but I can tell that they are NOT happy, what should I do?
  11. so We Have a tulpa that is frOm a fictiOnal source. cronus is based on cronus amPora from homestuck. i knoW tHere are peOple with mlp/pOkemon/anime etc tulPas, and am curious on anyones stance on them, or even if anyone has one. :0)
  12. Hello all, I'm new here and to the concept of tulpas. I had imaginary friends growing up and never knew it could become this complex. I am going to expand a little bit on my experience with imagined beings but for anyone who just wants to see the main issue/question it will be under the heart emoji (❤️). I had an eagle imaginary friend that I only imagined when I was going to sleep as a child who I would tell about my day, and she would fly me to imagined places (basically wonderland/s) until I fell asleep. Even now as an adult I still do the same thing with her if I can't fall asleep. I wouldn't consider her a tulpa since she doesn't talk and only makes eagle sounds, and we do not interact much beyond her listening to me talk and helping me fall asleep before bed. After doing some reading here I guess she could be considered a servitor. I am currently working with a new(ish) tulpa called Yumi. I say she's not exactly new because she is a character I created as a child but never really went further with imagining her as anything else, but I know her very well (I am open to her deviating though in any way she pleases). ❤️ I have been wondering about an accidental tulpa I created in college before I knew of tulpas. I was going through an extreme period of stress (from school) and trauma (from SA and an abusive partner), and I created X as someone who would take the brunt of my stress and bad emotions so I wouldn't have to. I now realize this is an awful thing to do but at the time I didn't know what tulpas were and I didn't realize the severity of doing this. X ended up being extremely angry and harmful. He would self harm and looked at me like I was weak and stupid and that he was the "stronger/better one". I fully acknowledge that this was my fault because of the way I created him. Eventually X gave me a mental breakdown and I had panic attacks everyday for months. I "got rid" of X by telling myself it was all fake and never dared to think of him or give him attention again. Now that I know about tulpas I know for a fact X was one and he was created in a horrible way due to my own selfishness. Is it possible for me to bring him back and mend our relationship or is it better to just accept that I messed up and I basically don't deserve to even have him as my tulpa? Thanks a lot guys.
  13. My tulpa recently got rather intimate with me (not complaining), and we were wondering how we could... mate. Tips and suggestions would be nice. Thx
  14. When we started to look into the possibilities of using tulpamancy to give ourselves unique abilities and skills, one of my ideas was that perhaps a tulpa could be useful to cause a change in chemical production/release. I had Dawn try to manipulate the amount of adrenaline within the body, and we've had mixed results so far. We plan on further experimentation and devising a form of measurement to make sure any supposed change is indeed real. Eventually we want to try this with every major brain and body chemical possible. This made me think though, has anyone else attempted feats similar to this or have knowledge on the subject that could improve our tinkering? I'm no biologist or neuroscientist, and I don't even know the scientific potential for my idea to work, but I figured trying it is the only real way to know for sure. If I make any progress with this project I'll post it here for others to see. In the meantime discuss the possibilities or call me a fool if you believe it impossible.
  15. Alright so finally setting up my journal here. I'll be posting anything of interest on a semi weekly basis. If things go according to plan you should see an update every Saturday or Sunday.
  16. I have an interesting question that to my current knowledge hasn't been asked yet, how would dementia affect a system? If the host developed dementia I feel like that would cause a massive problem for everyone else aswell since it deteriorates memories and the mind in general.
  17. Lucifer has recently taken on a caregiver role for me (I'm an age regressor) and its gotten to the point whenever we talk I start to regress - has anyone else experience this?
  18. Apologies for the confusing title, but I wanted to get straight to the point-- One of our system mates, Chloe, feels pain and general discomfort more than everyone else. What I mean is, if I, for example, stub my toe, it'll hurt more for Chloe than for me or any other system mates. Pain and general stimuli is described by my system mates a "diluted" when they aren't switched in or possessing, and if they aren't active, they generally don't feel anything. We first noticed this about a month or so ago, so it is a new development, but the "why is still unknown. Chloe is, for all intents and purposes, a young child, and with her feeling pain and such more than everyone else, it just... pains me to see. She deserves the least strife of all of us, yet she experiences the most. For reference, when I say "Chloe feels amplified pain", I don't mean that in the wonderland she feels pain, I mean if she fronts(and pain is a trigger for her, mind you), the pain physically gets worse, in the most literal of senses. She also can feel aching joints and such very clearly, whereas I and others might not notice. We haven't done tests with "positive stimuli", so to speak, because, quite frankly, what would that qualify as? A massage? All the same, she's insisting that it's only occured with negative stimuli. We just want answers. I don't want Chloe to have to bear this weight. I don't want to be haunted by her screaming "MAKE IT STOP!" when my wounds hurt. Does anyone have any advice? Does anyone have any similar experiences? We beg for help. Edit: I feel like I should add context to the line "I don't want to be haunted by her screaming 'MAKE IT STOP!' when my wounds hurt." I recently fell and messed up my arm and knee pretty badly, and last night as I was getting into bed, I mistakenly put my weight on my injured knee, which as you can imagine, was insanely painful. Chloe describes what she felt as "white-hot searing pain, shooting through the whole body, making me only want to scream in agony." Thus, her screaming "MAKE IT STOP!" And let me tell you, it was utterly terrifying and heartbreaking seeing her like that.
  19. I had this idea circling in my mind regarding the way tulpamancy experiences are being discussed that I wasn't sure how to express. So generally, the things that we experience can be divided into either events that are certain or those that take a specific place on a spectre. A certain event is something that can be easily put into words, like the lack or presence of something (for example lights on/lights off), but there are also things that can't be, due to their nature, conveniently described with words. As an example, take a person who's being asked what the temperature in the room is like. They can say that it was too warm or that it was too cold, which is something most people will usually agree on. But they can also use the expression that the temperature was "pretty average" or "ok", and here's the problem that comes with it. The temperature that the person in question considers to be "ok" or "average" can be very subjective. And I don't mean the subjectivity of an experience, I mean the subjectivity of concept definition. There are words that we use that we don't give much thought, because we tend to assume that their definition is universal. We obviously don't clarify every time wheter our understanding of concepts like "tall" or "wide" match that of a person we talk to. It would simply be too inconvenient, so we instead run with the assumption that our understanding of the concept is the same, deeming it easier to just clarify it should a misunderstanding arise. But I think that this aspect is often being overlooked when people discuss tulpamancy experiences. What I'm getting on here is that possibly a significant portion of doubts that people get to deal with could be attributed to these discrepancies in concepts understanding. Here's an example of what I mean. Imagine a person who's trying to help their headmate achieve vocality. They read a guide or maybe a post that describes vocality as essentially a way of communication where one hears their headmate. They associate those words with their understanding of what hearing is and start practicing. They spend a month, two months, three months consistently practicing, and they do achieve certain results, but they never quite get there. They assume that they're doing something wrong or that something wrong is with their headmate. They start doubting. But in fact, they did everything right and had gotten exactly where they should've, it's just that the current way they hear their headmate ended up not matching their expectation of what hearing would work like. It happened both because the guide/post they read didn't describe what hearing a headmate is like, and because they didn't give much thought to where exactly their definition of hearing is on the scale from complete lack of any thoughts and a vivid hallucination that feels completely alien as if it was coming from another person outside their mind. From cases like these come questions like "How well can you X" or "What does X feel like". But that's not as much of an issue if they do receive a good answer to their question. The problem here is in that not everyone will ask those questions, and even if they do the answer may introduce even more confusion. Someone might say "I can hear them clearly". Well, what does "clearly" imply in this sentence exactly? Is it supposed to feel slightly muffled, but still be easy enough to make out words? Is it meant to feel like it's coming from inside or from outside? And if neither of these details match does that mean the person is not able to hear their headmate clearly? What if they already achieved the best possible quality, but expect it to be better and think that it's not in fact clear. Because of these discrepancies, someone (person A) may claim they do hear their headmates clearly, because they think that it doesn't get much clearer that that. At the same time, another person (person B) who in fact had gone a lot further than person A may claim that they can't hear their headmates very well, because in their understanding it should be even clearer. This way you end up with a false comparison when person A seems to have better developed skills thatn person B, while in fact it's the complete opposite. And it gets the more dangerous the more complex the concept that's being discussed is. There aren't many words that can describe how sentient and independent someone is. Headmates are a relatively novel concept in terms of how we think of them nowadays, and therefore the languages we speak don't really have words that describe how we experience the sentience and independence of someone inside. When we discuss these concepts and how far we've gotten in developing such skills we have to make do with what our language offers. How red is that red exactly? Uh... MiIdly red? Slightly more saturated than regular red? Oh, no, it's not red, it's crimson. Except we don't have crimson, cherry, ruby, scarlet, garnet, and rose words equivalents for describing the concepts of sentience and independence. I think it's a very important thing to keep in mind when judging own progress. What do y'all think of this?
  20. Hello, My tulpa and me have done dating for 5 month. I thought "This tulpa is very good," and became of love with her. Yet even so, on this Monday, I comed home and found she as baked all my beans. Yes, all. Oh brother. In my cupboard I store several bag of bean, to make soft and to bake on some days, to have a bit of baked bean on my dinner. Or, heck, a lunch too some days. But on the Monday I find this tulpa baked all the beans. I say "Why do you bake my beans", and she say something as "I bakes them good to save time, so I bakes them all now." I am astonished and full of dissmay. I say "I canfr not eat all the beans", she say she is froze many of the beans so as we can unfrozen the on a later day and eat some at a time. But, if a bean is froze and unfrozed, the very good and very nice flavor of bean is gone far. A bean is best if baked fresh as a Sunday Pie. Not to be froze and unfroze! I told my tulpa I am so sad of this, as to my opinion the baking of the beans and to freeze them has ruin all my beans. She say I am "gone haywire" by my enragement and sad manners. But I hates what she did to my beans. On the days before Monday I thought "Will we marry the tulpa? Well it might be so." But now I am so sad she baked them beans. I am consider to end our relations and not be the boyfriend and girlfriend any more. But, is my idea wrong? Could my tulpa make promise to not bake the beans? I do not know what doing to do and how to feel forgiving on her. What can I do on this situation I said here? (In the text I write above this.) Thank you. Oh yes TL;DR - So what I say is my tulpa bakes all the beans in my house and freeze many of them, so as now most my beans is ruined and has no good flavors. This made me think maybe I breaked up with her? But will I? What can you say to help on me? Thank you.
  21. ah yeah, i have been wanting to make this thread a while ago, i finally got to it. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- some info about us: Sammy: i'm the host 'n stuff, i'm apart of a large system of seven. Dr. Wee: shes a tulpa, i consider her my co-host, she was originally a fictive, she currently helps me with my huge system. Wisp: wisp is a tulpa, and she likes to do origami katie: katie was originally an NPC in our wonderland before becoming sentient, she used to be interested in witchcraft for a while. Sunny: sunny is a walk-in, she can be very hostile at times without reason Izzy: izzy's origin is currently unknown, shes very bubbly and loves to talk. ENA: ena is a fictive/soulbond from the series "ENA" she stutters a lot, unlike the others in my system, her voices is almost identical to her fictional counterpart. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- feel free to ask us anything :)
  22. Starting off, on this fourm, I don't see much of anyone knowing much about/having experience with (what those not "the know" call) metaphysical practices. So, as a disclaimer, I'll have to explain a few very foreign concepts to some of you out there, I'll put the pieces together, then leave it amongst your discussion and answer some questions anyone may have! First, I'd need to tell you of my experience in spiritual knowledge through meditation, having knowledge from transmissions, deep past life hypnosis meditations, and my personal energy readings that I offer. There are plenty of resources online, with very beautiful souls here educating you about universal truths! Like always, I encourage to look deeper and ask yourself questions. I'd like to to start off with one question. What is existence? Well simply put, existence is an experience to be perceived. With that we call it consciousness. With every event, occurrence, and happenstance, you know of, you always are. You are experiencing a certain perspective of many in the omniverse. Everything has a perspective, much like how there are angles and places to put a camera. Moving along, we can use this knowledge to move to our next query. What is existence made out of? As school has taught you, it's made out of energy, movement, and vibration. You can easily see this as time passes through, things changing. Take your mother for instance, she once came here on earth as a child, slowly, as time goes in motion, she grows older. There are a variety of ways you may know this, with space being potential energy as well as time (the execution) is kinetic. For the sake of some concepts, I'll be using energy and vibration very interchangeably. Vibration can be described as a certain conceivable thought, point, a concept (space) that is occurring again (time). With the basic physics worked out (that you already have basic knowledge on beforehand) you can see how we also are applicable with this knowledge. What do we know? Now, this is more personal and requires you to look more within to find the answers you came here to find. As you read, take some time with yourself and your inner being. 1. Who are you? Why and what let you to identify this way 2. What is existence to you in a physical sense 3. Recall a memory before you were you? 4. Is there more to this world than what you've seen? 5. Why do you think you're here? Think back to your earliest memory and retrace your steps. 6. Think of all the hardships in your life, and how you changed because of them. How do you feel about your younger self? 7. Look around your surroundings, observe your thoughts and reactions. Identify each when it happens 8. What do you like? What do you love? Imagine something you don't know you would like. Taking all your answers, the information I provided, we can fully plunge ourselves into the deep understanding with what reality is in essence. All in all your reality is created by your energy in which, like magnets, attract similar people, places, occurrences and situations resonating with that same frequency. Think like radio signals and frequencies. And you can see that with certain aspects of your life contain a certain pattern, caused by one another of the same energy, which is also frequent energy in of itself. In order to experience this reality or frame of existence, you exist on the same frequency to have that experience As a side note for those aware: With research, documents, phenomenon, and experiences of shifting, tulpas, and astral projection being experienced all over the planet as of recently, we're waking up to the aspects of life that the collective has shamed and labeled to not be true, despite the evidence, conclusive unclassified federal documents, being present, and clear as day to many. It's a paradigm shift not all of us seem to be ready for. Unknown to many, these "practices" have been known to us for a very long time on earth. But in the recent few centuries, we've been looking in the wrong direction, lies have been spread, and social norms have wormed it's way into our brains. With that said, before moving foreword, I'd like you to clear your mind, release expectations, beliefs, and whatever have you to listen to what I will say. It will get bumpy, and yes, at this point I'm aware some of you think I'm on thin ice brimming to what you say is conspiracy commentary. Open your mind, you'll have to release what you have now to bring in the new, right? (Stick with me, we'll get through this) Existence is commonly separated through dimensions, to explain that concept, I suggest watching on or two of the following videos! With that said, you exist on a variety of planes of existences, your thoughts are ways to process, and transmute energy. Everything in this universe has already happened in the grand scheme of things, and as such, as we "create" we are in reality experiencing a specific energy. We sought out for it, we had the image, the time, the space in our minds, the energy. And it came to us. (To cut this short, because I had accidentally submitted before finishing, I could possibly answer questions, and see your thoughts below before we continue! Especially because this is/was a rough draft of the complete comprehensive explanation.)
  23. How does one integrate with another willing tulpa? We have multiple wanting to "merge" but- It seems too complicated. Can someone walk us through the steps?
  24. Earlier this week was having a lot of head pressure due to extended periods of visualizing, so as the pressures became annoying and persistent enough, I thought I should address it. I've noticed before that my head pressures are related to the way I was flexing my tongue muscles really hard and pressing it against my palate inadvertently. I have tried many times visualizing without doing this and, it works momentarily but whenever I stop paying attention to my tongue, there it goes again pressing my palate really hard once I start to concentrate into the visualization. I only notice that I'm doing that after I already start to feel the head pressures. By that time it's too late and it's already bothering me. So after two days of attempting to visualize with my tongue relaxed without success I thought that I should probably google that. So there I go googling the terms "tongue" and "meditation" and I came across this: https://www.easyayurveda.com/2020/01/31/khechari-mudra/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khecarī_mudrā Very weird, right? That's what I thought too. Basically, they stick the tongue up into the nasal cavity above the palate and use that to aid the process of meditation. So of course I went down this rabbit hole and found out that some people seem know how to do this naturally. This girl is an example of someone that has this ability naturally: https://youtu.be/ijpBUfOTBT0 Also other people report having head pressures identical to what we see in tulpamancy in this practice, here's an example of someone describing their head pressures in the context of Kriya meditation: https://www.reddit.com/r/kriyayoga/comments/mgpk73/tension_in_the_head_during_dhyana/ Described as "tension in the head that is somewhere between no pain and the pain you experience during a headache." This seems to me like it's the same kind of head pressure we experience in tulpamancy. At least to me. Also I forgot to mention that, they say THIS GIVES YOU IMMORTALITY. Which, of course, is bullshit otherwise there would be 1000 year old yogis walking around. Then I thought it would be a good idea to ask around here because, well to be honest, the people that practice this don't know how to explain it without anecdotes and dogmatic stories. Which is fine for spiritual people but I want to find what part is real and what part isn't. Or a deconstruction to find the line where the anecdotes end and the actual benefits of this practice begin. Or if there are any benefits at all. Here is a small list of claims about this technique: (which I have absolute no idea if it's true or not) -Helps you overcome hunger and makes it so that you go extended periods of time without food. -Gives you access to DMT that is stored in your pineal gland. By licking it directly. (yeah gross, the girl in the video seemed to get very high from doing it, she even says she's high afterwards) -The practitioner doesn't suffer from decay, disease and death. (this part I think it's flat out not true) -Gives you immunity to snake poison. (This one I think it's sorta possible, because some snake poison triggers your immune response and the response of the body is what kills the person not the poison itself, so technically by controlling your immune response you would therefore not die from the poison) So my questions are: 1-Does anybody else experience their tongue forcing up the palate unintentionally while visualizing or concentrating really hard? 2-If so, do you think this is related to Khechari mudra? Or is it just tension and I'm looking way too much into it? 3-Are those just stories and not meant to be interpreted literally? (If so people are doing a bad job at explaining that) 4-Is there something to this at all? Is it a practice worth looking into? Just thought it would be cool to ask here, since if I asked on their forum they would either not tell me because it's a closed practice, or even if they did tell me I wouldn't understand because the vocabulary they use is very far removed from anything I can contextualize. So what do you guys think? Is it all nonsense or not?
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