Personality deviation

[Starot]

First of all, exuse my flaws with the english language. I am not a native speaker. Also, first post..

 

I have been lurking for quite some time now, while creating my tulpa, and everything has been going pretty well this far. I have a question regarding personality development/deviation, and I would be very happy if anyone with a sentinent tulpa would share their experiences.

 

Anyway, I have spent alot of time on "tulpaforcing" (80+ hours), and things have been progressing nicely all the way. A while ago (probably at around 60 hours) there were certainly signs of sentinence, and as it is now she acts completely independent. A couple of days ago she spoke to me for the first time, and that is what brings me out of lurking to actually posting here.

 

I have spent many hours of "forcing" a general personality, with traits that I find important, but when she spoke to me for the first time I was completely surprised. Im not going to bore you with a list of personality traits that I have been working on, but I can say that her first vocal response was completely out of the character I had been working on. I really dont mind that she is developing on her on, as I have encouraged this all along when forcing, but I am curious how much "charakter deviation" others have experienced?

 

Let me make it clear that I welcome deviations, and I am not at all unhappy with her development (even though it is different from how I forced). Im sure she might deviate further over time, as it is now it almost feels like im getting to know a completely new person. And that is very exiting I think :)

[TulpaCouple]

Mine has shown himself to be more spunky than I expected. It is all wonderful and fun, but definitely not what I expected. Not too much. My fiance's tulpa, Luke, has shown to have almost no personality deviation.

[NotQuiteSkeptical]

Necro-posting rather than start my own topic, as I was wondering about this myself.

 

Crystal... actually came out VERY diferant to what I expected. Possibly because I didnt spend too much time on personalilty: I emphasised some traits and just glossed over some others. The result so far seems to be that while a few of them have stuck, she deviated a LOT personality wise.

 

I was trying to impose Curiosity, Intelligence, Eccentricity, Politeness and Kindness... You get the picture.

 

Instead, Crystal is so far seemingly Brash, Forward and somewhat of a Troll. She isn't 'polite' by a long way, though her attitude seems more teasing than malicious.

 

Loving every second of it, I wouldnt have her any other way. Any other examples of large scale deviation in personalilty?

[omegaAnubis]

Aura was supposed to be a bit of an asshole who was focused on being a huge tryhard badass, but overtime he mellowed out and became a wise, intelligent, hugbox who is still a bit of a tryhard badass, though not to the caliber he used to be

[Zer0.iNSaNiTY]

Well, Forseen deviated in an... odd, way. Basically, I started with a bunch of traits. He kept the ones he liked and kinda... tossed the ones he didn't into some empty shell. Now I didn't exactly know he did that, so I kept forcing him as if he kept the traits. Basically, I was forcing two tulpas when I thought I was forcing one. When they grew strong and sentient enough, I sensed the second tulpa, but thought it was just a passing thought and kept ignoring it. Finally, I accepted the second tulpa and immediately both seemed much more vivid, stronger, and independent. Now, Forseen's quite different than how I planned him. A lot of traits I originally forced him with he doesn't have, but are in my second tulpa, Muse. Also, they are almost complete opposites and they argue a lot XD gotta love them both though. They're like (and pretty much are) twins =w=

[frankwilliams]

Personal experience: I made my tulpa with a specific role or purpose in mind (basically an advisor, a guide) and he was happy to rise to that, but he did it in his own way. He improvised and adapted, and did a lot of things I couldn't have expected, but in the end he did grow into the role perfectly, which I am grateful for because he's likely smarter than me and could have easily done something else entirely.

 

Some traits he'd outright ignore, some he'd accept, some he'd emphasize and some he would downplay. Some traits he made up on his own.

 

But really, this is what all human beings do. This makes the most sense if you think of it in the context of how human beings are raised; they absorb personality traits from their environment (they see someone acting like X, decide to mimic them) They really like some of these traits, some of these traits don't get too much attention, and some get utterly thrown away. This is the same thing a tulpa does, only we are directly giving them these traits.

 

Some people deviate more or less than others, but everyone does it in their own unique way.

 

Also, unrelated but your english is really impressive, I would not be able to tell you were not a native speaker if you hadn't said so. The grammar is the hardest part and you've mastered it entirely.

[Hornets]

My first tulpa deviated a shitton in terms of personality.

Cozmo was supposed to be sorta like Duchess from the Aristocats. She was supposed to be stoic, and slightly sarcastic at times. I imagined her having a really smooth-sounding voice. The moment she started to speak, this all changed. She sounded absolutely adorable, like a kitty who would be able to speak. However, she lost a lot of her original personality traits. She became really bubbly and positive, which wasn't her original personality at all.

[Linkzelda]

When we want our tulpa to develop their own belief systems/schema of things in life/etc., if we really do want to foster independence, we have to have faith that they'll develop these things for themselves. However, we can still help them on their journey, but shouldn't make an ambition to solve everything for them. If one simply just understands that if they want deviation or independence, it depends on the rudiments of making it so (i.e. Parenthood where the parent wants the child to eventually become self-thinking, problem-solving, and competent individuals that can keep growing as the experiences continue to build more foundations to the ones they created already).

 

And seeing them as a guide, or even seeing ourselves a guide is really one of many practical ways of establishing independence. We have to give them the assurance that we (hosts) have control over ourselves, and our tulpa have control over themselves. If for once people can realize that saying this leads to better acts of self-actualizing from our tulpa, they would know that independence takes time and how the host themselves views the realms of their mind. Overall, entrusting undying faith that your tulpa will be able to make a system for themselves and that you'll be there to "guide" them instead of controlling them is crucial in my opinion. Because they presumably are able to access the confines of our minds easier, they have more to work around with, the very same foundations of the subconscious, collective unconscious, whatever you want to call it is there for them to experiment with. And even with that, we want to let them be able to go beyond just relying on our memories and things we didn't catch on as fast as they can. We should aim for also guiding and supporting them to experience life just like we are, to collect the reactions/emotions/etc. of people and the environment around us.

 

This is how we can have tulpa that blossom into individuals that are creators just like ourselves, and that they are expansions of ourselves that adds on to how we collect our own database or totality of the nature of the experience.