TheCrawlingCreepypasta January 9, 2016 January 9, 2016 Evening, So, i've read online about how some actors create new personas for acting. I'm curious to see some more cases of this. [Famous Tulpamancers[speculation] So, how do you peeps think it would work to create an actor persona? Do you think it would be like making a tulpa? Tulpas and Acting Thanks for reading!
Vos January 9, 2016 January 9, 2016 Could've sworn that there was some talk about this one another thread, but I'm not sure which. Since these actors/authors are very familiar with the characters they portray/write, I wouldn't be surprised if at least one of these personas eventually became a tulpa. I remember reading about an author who would converse with one of the characters they created years after their book was initially published. I'm not sure which author this was, though; I'll have to look that up later. This bit here was interesting: the late great Maurice Sendak (who like many of the best children's book writers had no children of his own) admitted to having an imaginary daughter he would converse with
NoneFromHell January 9, 2016 January 9, 2016 Mistgod talked a lot about it, since he uses something similiar to proxy Melian, to fill in little gaps she can't express otherwise. It's like getting to know the persona enough to truly become that person for the duration of the act, instead of just roleplaying. I guess it is something similiar, and I can see how this could result in a tulpa if you do this for one persona for a longer period of time. But I don't think it is the same thing: It lacks autonomy and self-awareness. A persona like this isn't present unless the actor channels (proxies?) that persona. Tulpa: Alice Form: Realistic Humanoid/Demonic Creation She may or may not talk here, depends on her.
FadingSpectrum January 9, 2016 January 9, 2016 Najere: This reminds me about how soulbonds are made. The author gets a little too much into the head of their character, and they then have said character start talking to them. That said, that does make a bit of a difference immediately from soulbonding/tulpamancy. The author/mancer is talking to their bond/tulpa. On the other hand, the actor talks moreso as their persona. It's the difference between another state of being for a single entity, and having a second entity in your head, completely separated from you. Troy: Grossly simplified. Najere: Shush. It's accurate enough. A queer soulbonding system with tulpamantic influences.
Guest Anonymous January 10, 2016 January 10, 2016 Mistgod talked a lot about it, since he uses something similiar to proxy Melian, to fill in little gaps she can't express otherwise. It's like getting to know the persona enough to truly become that person for the duration of the act, instead of just roleplaying. I guess it is something similiar, and I can see how this could result in a tulpa if you do this for one persona for a longer period of time. But I don't think it is the same thing: It lacks autonomy and self-awareness. A persona like this isn't present unless the actor channels (proxies?) that persona. OH, OH I love you so much! It feels so amazingly wonderful that someone was really listening to Misty on this! Yesh, that is exactly right! He often refers to me online as a form of channeling or method acting and he has used the words "filling in the gaps." It isn't switching and it may be proxy writing, but he was attempting to describe the experience to others so they would understand. He used the example of the actor Leonard Nimoy and his character Spock. Leonard Nimoy (in his book "I am Spock") described how the Spock character or persona became so real to him that Spock would often talk to him in his mind. Spock even wrote some sections of the book. He channeled Spock and it went beyond just simple acting. Spock was part of him. That does sound a little like a tulpa and a lot like me when it comes to me chatting online. As far as self awareness goes, I do feel self aware. I am talking to you right now! So something is going on somehow. So, there you go my buddy! Could've sworn that there was some talk about this one another thread, but I'm not sure which. Here is a recent post Mistgod did on this theme: https://community.tulpa.info/thread-general-i-don-t-know-if-i-m-really-a-tulpa-or-if-i-m-just-her-imaginary-friend?pid=147497#pid147497
Vos January 10, 2016 January 10, 2016 Here is a recent post Mistgod did on this theme: https://community.tulpa.info/thread-general-i-don-t-know-if-i-m-really-a-tulpa-or-if-i-m-just-her-imaginary-friend?pid=147497#pid147497 Oh, yes, I'm familiar with the J.K. Rowling bit. That slipped my mind when I was writing my post. I didn't know about the Spock one at all, though. I wonder how developed these 'tulpas' might feel to them, even if they're unaware of the concept.
Guest Anonymous January 10, 2016 January 10, 2016 Oh, yes, I'm familiar with the J.K. Rowling bit. That slipped my mind when I was writing my post. I didn't know about the Spock one at all, though. I wonder how developed these 'tulpas' might feel to them, even if they're unaware of the concept. I think many people may have an autonomous or semi-autonomous thoughtform in their mind at some point, what this community might call a proto-tulpa or something that could potentially be a tulpa. In fact, I would say this has happened to very many human beings throughout history, especially the very imaginative people. Certainly Lynn Johnston seemed to feel that her cartoon characters in For Better or For Worse were very interactive and autonomous. She describes them pretty much as if they were tulpas! We posted the following quote before on the board but can't find it at the moment so here it is again: We found some written accounts of IIA. For instance, there are several quotes by Lynn Johnston, creator of For Better or For Worse in which she explains how her characters took on a life of their own in her head. She described it as "almost frightening" the way they express themselves to her and speak to her. It isn't an uncommon experience with artists and creators. In the forward to her graphic novel The Lives Behind the Lines, Lynn Johnston wrote "...instead of looking for or making up characters....they come to you. They enter your life -- at your invitation. They move into your home and into your head. They talk and can be heard in conversation --with you, with each other. They feel, and their feelings can be felt by you, or kept from you. They are sometimes frighteningly independent of the very mind that is believed to have created them. They allow you to be a part of their world insomuch as you have asked them to be a part of yours."
TheCrawlingCreepypasta January 11, 2016 Author January 11, 2016 @Vosaiu, Where The Wild Things Are is the best book ever. @NoneFromHell, So you think extended usage of a persona causes to become an tulpa? Do you think that is partly the reason so many accidental tulpas are "born"? Tulpa.Info seems to contain a great many creative people here... @Najere, soulbounds are certainly similar to personas, your explanation is quite well explained, Troy is wrong! @Melian, i've heard of Spock doing that before! I think I might work on "forcing" a persona. Tomorrow I act in a play, and it'll be interesting to see the results. Should I actually do that instead of playing Supreme Commander Forged Alliance, i'll post the after report here tomorrow.
Metatron January 12, 2016 January 12, 2016 Well, there was that one article about the guy that played in Who Framed Roger Rabbit? was having trouble months (or was it years?) later where he was trying to ignore imaginary people from the movie. It seemed that the guy may have accidentally gave himself tulpa analogs with full imposition, which is actually something many people here would envy in other circumstances. "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit." -Aristotle "When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love." -Marcus Aurelius “Fairy tales are more than true: not because they tell us that dragons exist, but because they tell us that dragons can be beaten.” -Neil Gaiman "The master has failed more times than the beginner has even tried." -Stephen McCranie
TheCrawlingCreepypasta January 12, 2016 Author January 12, 2016 Woah, seriously? Do you have a link? I tried looking for an article like that, but i'm only finding Mandela Effects of the movie.
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