The eidetic memory thing...

[Tewi]

Traditional was a weird word to use there, I mean traditional definition of computer not traditional use of the word in "the brain is a computer". Referring to the "electronic storage/IO 1s and 0s" definition. Macroscopic is referring to the fact that none of us (probably) actually know how brains work in-depth enough to talk about the 1s and 0s versus neural pathways in a meaningful capacity. We can still think of the brain "as a computer" without getting technical (should've used that word instead of traditional) and have the analogies make sense.

[| Eva |]

Thanks for the clarification!

[Stevey]

Tulpas aren't magic. They can't do things their host can't.

[War]

Yesterday morning, I woke up to my hand moving on it's own, playing with itself. I had no connection to it at all. I couldn't even properly feel it.

 

There is something truly magical about that.

[Floh]

Stevey, they actually could :) I'd say Tulpas aren't magic, they can't do things the body can't. I think there is a big difference.

 

Your body is able to monitor its temperature, the rate of the heartbeats and many other things a host probably can't control (well I can't). Whereas tulpas could. Cora has already amazed me a few times by willingly changing the body temperature for example..

On the other hand, your brain CANNOT remember things perfectly, years after you saw them. It's just how it is. Neurologists all agree with the fact that eidetic memory has never been properly tested, that is to say it has never been proven as real. You could say tulpas haven't either, but it's not the same. Tulpas CAN'T be proven, because of what they are. Memory, on the other hand, is completely testable. ;)

So yeah, memory fades away with time going on. Pretty much like a computer with a periodically scheduled data-deletion, cleaning everything too old, or not marked as "essential" (you mark as essential things that shock you ; even if they seem irrelevant today..). Well at least that's how I have been taught (by school and diverse medias) memory works.

 

I'd say a brain can be compared to a computer, but it's definitely not a computer. If it were, AI would be much easier to create right ? (I mean a real sentient AI, not a simulation of it)

[War]

A computer is not a brain. Otherwise AI would be much easier to create. However, much as a rectangle is not a square.

 

The brain naturally produces an intelligence over time if left vacant. It grows on top of another piece of software that is responsible for predicting the future. This piece of software's primary language is pattern matching. It automatically organises everything it knows about the world into discrete objects, which each have a set of hypothetical actions, which could cause the object to move, or changes in other objects. This piece of software primarily runs in the frontal lobe.

[Floh]

Yeah well I guess there indeed could be a relevant analogy. But sadly, no one actually knows EXACTLY how a brain works :X

 

However, what we know is that "photographic memory" has yet to be proven :)

[waffles]

Your body is able to monitor its temperature, the rate of the heartbeats and many other things a host probably can't control (well I can't). Whereas tulpas could. Cora has already amazed me a few times by willingly changing the body temperature for example..

 

Well, this is exactly the kind of claim that started the "tulpas can give you eidetic memory" thing. It goes like this:

Tulpas are closer to the subconscious and can access memories a host can't. (Nonsense explanation). In some cases they can even remember entire books. (Big claim). My own tulpa, for example, has sometimes remembered things I haven't.

That last line is very tricky. The thing is that people suddenly remember things as a matter of course. That thought can take the form of something that feels like a conscious realisation, feel like a thought that just pops into your head, or maybe feel like a realisation on the part of your tulpa. Does that really mean that your tulpa remembers things you don't? Well, in a sense, but your memory hasn't improved at all.

 

I mean, that's just one example of a way in which people can see these spurious abilities. But while you'd expect them to improve with development, they don't, they actually diminish or stay constant. You don't get from a spurious weak skill to a strong one via tulpa magic.

 

As for changing body temperature, yeah, feeling warmer or colder a few times isn't really amazing. People can do it normally, trained or otherwise, and it doesn't translate to some kind of lower-level body control on the part of the tulpa. But anyway, people are happy to attribute random feelings to their tulpa, so it becomes even more suspect when the tulpa can't or won't do it consistently, or the host is unwilling to earnestly test or verify the tulpa's or their own ability.

 

To an extent, these things happen as a fairly weak and perhaps uninteresting consequence of just doing things differently in your mind. But when people start talking about their tulpas having special abilities, it tends to come with the smell of delusion to me. My experience in this community is that people will claim weak spurious things but not strong things, and that's very suspicious.

[suhail Al ketbi]

Tulpa are real (not imagination ).

They can become real .

By astral projection and lucid dreaming.

And By activit third eye.

So they can do ,what you can't do .