Typing is easier than speaking?

[TurboSimmie]

I've noticed that sometimes it's much more easy to express myself in writing than it is in speech, even mindvoice. Sometimes when talking to Phil I can't articulate what I want to say, and sometimes I even revert to very basic responses (like "yeah" and "how about that") just so he knows I'm still there and listening. But when we're sitting in front of the computer I find it much easier to put what I have to say to Phil's hands for him to enter into the computer. Why is that? I'm really curious why typing comes to me much more readily than speaking? Is this just something I've inherited from Phil because he's a writer? I just want to know if I'm alone in this and if I should focus more on speaking fluently or lean on what I'm already good at to communicate.

[Gloomynoon]

I wanna say something even though I haven't experienced this myself.

 

I never was really into the whole typing tulpaforcing thing. We were always talking in mindvoice to each other. Personally, I think if it's truly more convenient for you. Then you shouldn't worry too much about it. If it is less convenient to you. Then obviously you should try to figure out something that is.

 

If you wanna talk in mindvoice more, I can try to help. I think my expectations helped a lot with this. I would always try to get Jill to give me big responses. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I remember reading a way to encourage longer sentences, is to give them more time after they've responded.

 

I'll give an example to explain this better: I would ask "Do you like donuts?" eventually Jill would respond with, "Yes!" normally you might start talking again, but if you wait they might continue or ramble on about it, "Uh, I like the ones with chocolate on them..." and so on.

Edited May 27, 2021 by Gloomynoon

[Glaurung26]

Ya know I have that same thing. It feels different "speaking" than "typing." Maybe it's just that I've potentially communicated more in typing than speaking in my life (or it feels that way). I look at them as two different muscle groups and whichever you exercise more is easier to use. I've always been much more comfortable texting or messaging people and kind of low-key dread answering phone calls. It feels like being put on the spot and not having time to put my thoughts together properly. Also being on the ball, active listening and sometimes even straining to hear people properly depending on the quality of the call. Listening/Speaking just overall seems like a more stressful activity than reading and typing.

 

I've noticed Jaina likes taking a more passive listening role most of the time and just kind of responding or piping up when she feels like it (must get that from me). She gets tired quickly being active for a while. She definitely also prefers typing. I don't know if she quite prefers it over mindvoice but definitely over speaking out loud. I think we're both a bit bashful for that even if we're alone. 😄

[TurboSimmie]

52 minutes ago, Gloomynoon said:

If you wanna talk in mindvoice more, I can try to help. I think my expectations helped a lot with this. I would always try to get Jill to give me big responses. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I remember reading a way to encourage longer sentences, is to give them more time after they've responded.

 

I'll give an example to explain this better: I would ask "Do you like donuts?" eventually Jill would respond with, "Yes!" normally you might start talking again, but if you wait they might continue or ramble on about it, "Uh, I like the ones with chocolate on them..." and so on.

 

Wow, this is... so simple yet such a good idea! Yeah, sometimes Phil's internal monologue moves a mile a minute and it's sometimes hard to get a word in. But after reading this Phil promised me he'll give me more space to respond.

 

45 minutes ago, Glaurung26 said:

Ya know I have that same thing. It feels different "speaking" than "typing." Maybe it's just that I've potentially communicated more in typing than speaking in my life (or it feels that way). I look at them as two different muscle groups and whichever you exercise more is easier to use.

 

Good to know I'm not alone! The difference with Phil is that he is actually quite a talker. Even before I came along he could literally talk into a camera for hours, just monologuing to the person on the other end. He's a good conversationalist too once he gets going, but it usually takes a good chemistry first. But yeah, typing comes very easy to him and thankfully I find that I can access his muscle memory very well. When he types for me I'm not sure how much of it is proxying and how much is true possession, but the translation is so fast I doubt it makes much of a difference on a practical level. Maybe I should try writing a story myself? 🤔 I don't know what to write about though! 

[Guest]

We did that a lot in the beginning 

[YukariTelepath]

Assuming you want to have an easier time using mindvoice, you could warm up by writing and then shift over to mindvoice. I'm sure if you do that a lot you'll become more comfortable using mindvoice.

[TurboSimmie]

That's a really good idea. Maybe we'll start sessions at the computer and then move away and switch to mind voice. Yeah, I definitely want to get better at speaking in mindvoice because that's available anytime, unlike a computer.

[ChloeBee]

Interestingly, we've been practicing vocal possession, and Simmie is actually doing quite well at it! At first it seemed odd that mindvoice communication was muddled while both typing and vocal possession came easily to Simmie, but then I understood: With mindvoice, Simmie has to contend with all the other random stuff going off in my head. It's like turning on 7 radios at once and trying to pay attention to the voice from just one of them. However, with her words typed onto a computer or coming out of my mouth, they are above and separate from all the brain clatter.

[Etna]

This is basically what we did which turned out to be a part of the subconscious forcing I did. I was talking to my roleplaying character in writing, and while I still do that, now my tulpa comes along and joins in the conversation on page as well. (It's quite fascinating to notice how different the two have become, despite starting out as the same person!) I can find it easier to focus if I'm writing, if that makes sense? So my brain has to slow down and focus on what's being said, not just quick mental exchanges.

[ruleofthumb]

Stone: We've been doing that more often recently, and I think it keeps things more organized. Everyone gets a chance to talk, it forces us to convey our thoughts through words rather than words + feelings, it keeps us focused, etc. I like it.

 

Betty: I like it as well! While I can speak with mindvoice, and while mindvoice can lead to some more interesting or even funny interactions, there's something to be said about the visual aid text provides. Typically, when Stone and I are talking in mindvoice, he tries to visualize my form in order to focus. It can be straining for him! The downside of text is that sometimes a visualized conversation is more fun, especially if your having one in wonderland. Stone and I dropped through a hole in wonderland once and it gave us a rush that was surprising, and couldn't be emulated with text. But text is great! :D