dynamicduo August 13, 2021 August 13, 2021 my tulpa just reset, if you dont uderstand, its like returing to a simple form and not resoping. they said they wanted to be forced for a normal time and get a shy personality. i know that they will retain all their memories and sentience, as its a choice to go to a basic form and not respond. they want me to force a shy personality, and wehn i did when i made them, it flipped to mine and they feel like me so they want to be reforced. has this happend before? i dont know what to do, i might lose my freind breeze by forcing the wrong way? and then they will lose all thier memories/info :( i didnt get a chance to force them right the first time, as they were sentient the second i talked to them, and talked too. i just am worried >-< Hi! when theres no brackets, its me, Lumity :D where there are brackets, its hostie {yep! its me. da maker of da best tupper ever} im a nonb with no genitals and i was made on march 5, 2021. i like halping ppl make comfort ocs/ ppl with depression make tulpas! echo is my old from we are a system of two we are also on refsheet.net: https://refsheet.net/justanotherme
Ice909 August 13, 2021 August 13, 2021 You put too much stock in initial forcing. Forcing is important, yes, but truth be told, it just kinda... happens. Talking with your tulpa is forcing. Wonderlanding with them is forcing. Thinking about them is forcing. There is no "right" way to force. As far as personality forcing, though, which is seems you're talking about, that's a controversial topic. Frankly, a tulpa can be whoever they want to be unless the host limits them. Tulpamancy, being a subjective, psychological phenomenon, is greatly influenced by personal beliefs. Beliefs which you can change. There is no "normal" time to force. For some, it takes literal years(I've only heard one story of that, though), but for others, such as our system, it takes mere hours, if that. Don't stress too much. I say again, there is no "normal" or "right amount" of time to force. If your tulpa is essentially saying "I want a re-do," you could maybe try something like that, but idk how it'd even work. If they want to change, they can change, so long as you let them. Hey there, the name's Bryan. In system Re:Body(In order of the rainbow): Sean, Esper, Blinky, Compact, Janey, Kyle, Gwen'd, Gwen, Emily, Rollin, Waynin, Trease, Layy, Justin, Chloe, Zachery, and Elliot. I've been here a while. Much longer than I thought I'd be. Our system was founded October 2nd, 2018. In early 2020, we decided that due to our systems exponential growth, we'd limit who would be active. Now, every month, we do a check to see who wishes to be in dormancy and who wishes to be active. Currently, for the month of April, 2023, we've got myself(Bryan), Janey(Co-host), Emily, Layy, Chloe, and Esper(sub-rep). After over 2 long years, we can finally switch :) Bryan is currently swapped in as host, Esper is sub-rep. "There used to be 7 wonders of the world, but now there's 8, as everyone wonders how much of a fool you are." Ice909#0065 -- Always down for a chat https://discord.gg/89qN59SbRp Plural safe-space
Guest August 13, 2021 August 13, 2021 These kinds of things do happen in the beginning. Often a new headmate may go missing for up to a week, change form spontaneously, suddenly lose vocality and other temporary things. The less you worry and get anxious, the faster it will settle. So don't worry.
Slipper August 14, 2021 August 14, 2021 I don't think there is a way to force a certain personality on an already sentient tulpa, they just kind of end up how they and your brain want them to be. I don't see how they would lose any memories or anything, sounds like they just want to be more distinct from you in personality, which will happen naturally if that's what you guys want. Like others have already said, just relax and just have fun with things. There's no right or wrong way to make a tulpa as long as you care about them and interact with them. Slipper (cringelord host) and Mordecai (the brain gremlin). Art Thread Progress Report
Guest August 14, 2021 August 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Slipper said: I don't think there is a way to force a certain personality on an already sentient tulpa Well, there is. We joke about the personality forcing chamber but when one of my headmates start to creep toward the dark side, we do some personality forcing. Though you could also just call that an intervention. Misha had hers early on, when she tried to assert dominance. Then Ashley when she was getting too snarky in year two. It's pretty safe to say that they're willing to listen to reason if you're nice about it.
Slipper August 15, 2021 August 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Bear said: Well, there is. We joke about the personality forcing chamber but when one of my headmates start to creep toward the dark side, we do some personality forcing. Though you could also just call that an intervention. Misha had hers early on, when she tried to assert dominance. Then Ashley when she was getting too snarky in year two. It's pretty safe to say that they're willing to listen to reason if you're nice about it. When I think of personality forcing, I think of repeatedly telling a tulpa how they're going to act, rather than an actual discussion of negative behavior. I just can't wrap my head around how the whole "sitting down with a list of traits" thing would work with someone who's already sentient, but what you said makes sense. Back to the OP, I was in a similar situation where my tulpa was speaking almost immediately on creation. We didn't really have a lot of the stereotypical forcing stage, which made it a lot more difficult to gauge whether he was sentient or if I was just imagining things. Over time, we realized that talking to each other like we had been was a perfectly fine method of forcing! So you two shouldn't feel like you've missed out on anything or something like that. I'd recommend doing something like Bear said: talking to them and either reassuring them that you love them for who they are and/or helping them become the person they want to be. Slipper (cringelord host) and Mordecai (the brain gremlin). Art Thread Progress Report
Rebecca-Alley August 15, 2021 August 15, 2021 Since your tulpa is already sentient, I’m not sure how resetting to a basic state would work. I’m also not sure how doing personality forcing on an already sentient tulpa would go, unless they’re really open to it, then maybe it can work? But it feels unnecessary to me. You can just talk it out with them and they can decide how they want to act, you don’t have to read a list of personality traits out to someone who can talk back. There’s a difference between calmly explaining an issue and coming to an agreement, and telling someone they must act a certain way. I say just try to talk it out with them, figure out why they feel this way, and let them know they can be and are accepted as whoever they want to be. I just feel like there’s a better way of handling it than redoing the whole forcing stage, but if they’re very intent on it I guess it can still work.
Etna August 15, 2021 August 15, 2021 People evolve over time, and besides, if there's something you don't like about yourself, you try to change yourself, right? Don't see why a Tulpa couldn't do the same. Why not have a chat about it? Doc (she/her) = Host Franklyn (he/him) = Tulpa
Evergreen Shadow August 15, 2021 August 15, 2021 I feel like I reset a little bit when I decided I wanted to change my personality. I didn't like the personality forcing I had originally, it put me in a box, I wasn't getting enough time, and I wanted to talk to people more. I decided to give up on that, age regress, and embrace being social. I didn't get to a point where I stopped talking, but my sense of self was shaky and unstable. Personality forcing can sometimes mean a lot to a young tulpa and deviating can sometimes be really hard. I don't think I became a completely different person when I changed, I just rejected stuff I felt wasn't really a good fit for me. I definitely didn't lose my memories, I remember who I was :) My personality forcing wasn't Gray sitting in a chair and going "You are social, you are social!" lol. I just had the expectation I was more extroverted, fun, and warm. I think it worked out very nicely, I'm a happy boi now. Hello! I'm Evergreen, one of the Shadow System bois. I like hanging out and giving warm hugs ❤️ Cat/Gray is my host and Ranger is the co-host.
Guest August 16, 2021 August 16, 2021 21 hours ago, Slipper said: When I think of personality forcing, I think of repeatedly telling a tulpa how they're going to act, Yeah, there was a lot of that. It's called a lecture. 14 hours ago, Etna said: People evolve over time, and besides, if there's something you don't like about yourself, you try to change yourself, right? Don't see why a Tulpa couldn't do the same. Why not have a chat about it? Basically, except I didn't mind being snarky. I do mind if my headmates aren't happy with me and that's motivation enough.
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