Aarix September 19, 2012 September 19, 2012 Why is it so hard? Ive been putting off and putting off. The last 2 weeks ive been exactly the same. After practice I just lay down with my phone and do crappy forcing sessions. This damn phone, the internet, its all so addicting. When I put it down, i turn it off, i blindfold myself and haveheadphones with white noise on to drown out the hics. Reminds me of waterfall, I think i made a wonderland, i can never tell, but im pretty sure its beautiful. And her, why is it so hard to talk to her, why doesnt it feel like shes there anymore, the last 2 days i woke up when i asked her too but apparently it wasnt her, Im freaking out from this. Half an hour in tulpa forcing I get so unconfortable in my sit, just sitting there, even adjusting wont get rid of aches, why is it so hard? I know all the happiness shell bring me. All my troubles will be gone, so why am I still not motivated? Progress report "You'll have a Tulpa because you didn't give up" -Koomer
Bask September 19, 2012 September 19, 2012 Find something that works for you, yo. I do my best forcing when forced to do something boring - like chart at work , so i make my best efforts to narrate to Jazz about how much it sucks and what I want to do later. When I read on the internet I ' read to him' when I'm texting ill tell him about the person. Bringing him into my everyday life worked far better for me then sitting down and turning it into a chore. I don't use a wonderland, I visualize him here with me and work on detail when i have a few minutes. I don't think you need to draw it out for it to work.
Frosty September 19, 2012 September 19, 2012 He's right, you don't need a wonderland. People have done without. Just picture her near you, walking with you or sitting next to you and talk to her throughout the day. It helps if you picture her to the side of you just on the edges of your peripheral vison or behind you where you can still picture her but aren't looking at her. It helps keep her more real in your mind since your eyes won't be contradicting your visualizations. If you do that (which is called passive forcing & narration) then you don't have to force as much. Also, when you do force, try doing it in short bursts, aim for maybe 2-3 sessions a day at 20 minutes a pop. And when you are in wonderland, don't worry so much about structure or a to-do list, just have fun and go with the flow. Just try visualizing your wonderland and refining what it looks like, a wonderland will look more and more real and complex the more time you spend in it. Do that and visualize your tupper with you (it's ok to look directly at them in wonderland, since your eyes aren't involved) and talk her through what you're doing. This is basically what I've been doing for the last two weeks or so, and it's been working out pretty well for me so far. Tulpa's name: April Form: Human female Working on: Stuff My Progress Log "A belief is not merely an idea the mind possesses; it is an idea that possesses the mind." ~ Robert Oxton Bolton
GhostWriter September 19, 2012 September 19, 2012 I think you're overwhelmed. When you have that thought that you want to force or that you have to, you tend to dread it when the time comes around. This kind of takes away from the whole session, and for me it made me feel jittery and restless. I had tended to think "oh, yeah, I'll do that today when forcing," and when the time came around I didn't put as much into it. I was too hung up on what was to come later rather than what was happening then. Bask has a good point, try talking to her throughout the day like he does with Jazz. For me talking with Lexi made forcing easier because I felt more dedicated to a forcing session later. I agree with Frosty that you ought to try shorter bursts in forcing. When I first began, I had vowed to do at least an hour a day and when that time came around I either dreaded knowing I'd have to sit for an hour and force, or just not be as dedicated while doing it. I eventually switched to two forty minute sessions a day, and that made me feel much more accomplished. It's much more manageable when you do shorter sessions. And it becomes easier if you force more frequently, because you don't go so long without thinking about her and it becomes far easier to remember what you've already done. It doesn't feel so alien after a while. Hang in there, I know technology is distracting, but part of this is finding that strength and discipline to keep going. Don't become discouraged yet, it all comes with time. Don't become discouraged just yet, okay? ;) To believe in certainty, we must begin by doubting. --Polish Proverb
Aarix September 19, 2012 Author September 19, 2012 I think you're overwhelmed. When you have that thought that you want to force or that you have to, you tend to dread it when the time comes around. This kind of takes away from the whole session, and for me it made me feel jittery and restless. I had tended to think "oh, yeah, I'll do that today when forcing," and when the time came around I didn't put as much into it. I was too hung up on what was to come later rather than what was happening then. Bask has a good point, try talking to her throughout the day like he does with Jazz. For me talking with Lexi made forcing easier because I felt more dedicated to a forcing session later. I agree with Frosty that you ought to try shorter bursts in forcing. When I first began, I had vowed to do at least an hour a day and when that time came around I either dreaded knowing I'd have to sit for an hour and force, or just not be as dedicated while doing it. I eventually switched to two forty minute sessions a day, and that made me feel much more accomplished. It's much more manageable when you do shorter sessions. And it becomes easier if you force more frequently, because you don't go so long without thinking about her and it becomes far easier to remember what you've already done. It doesn't feel so alien after a while. Hang in there, I know technology is distracting, but part of this is finding that strength and discipline to keep going. Don't become discouraged yet, it all comes with time. Don't become discouraged just yet, okay? ;) Thanks, i do talk to her throughout the day but i get sucked in the day and suddenly 4 hours has passed and i barely had a convosation with her. Progress report "You'll have a Tulpa because you didn't give up" -Koomer
GhostWriter September 20, 2012 September 20, 2012 Okay, that's a start. You're still relatively early in the process at the moment, no? Try not to expect a conversation so soon unless you know she will talk back. It took me a long while to even get where I am now speech wise with both of them. Just talk to her, one-sided conversations aren't as counter-productive as you may think. It is hard to speak to someone that may not be able to fully express themselves, and even more so if you are expecting it. Lexi first spoke to me when I wasn't expecting it, and the whole "talking in my mind" thing wasn't what I had thought it would be. Just talk to her, and take your time. If you try to expect too much too soon you will be ultimately dissappointed when it doesn't happen as soon as you'd like. Just talk to her casually, even if it's about dumb little things. Lexi appreciated it, even when she couldn't communicate back to me verbally. To believe in certainty, we must begin by doubting. --Polish Proverb
Oguigi September 20, 2012 September 20, 2012 I would like to help as well, but it seems like everyone else have given you some pretty good advice things i would have also said myself. I guess all i can say is that you have over support Aarix! never give up and you will succeed, the beginning is always the hardest. pix: Link Diary: http://ponystasha.tumblr.com Koomer.
Aarix September 20, 2012 Author September 20, 2012 I would like to help as well, but it seems like everyone else have given you some pretty good advice things i would have also said myself. I guess all i can say is that you have over support Aarix! never give up and you will succeed, the beginning is always the hardest. Thank you all for taking the time to help me. Ive having severe focus issues lately, i tulpaforce and suddenly doze off in a daydream. I just wish she could be heard. I always get drowsy and cramped when sitting down trying to focus on her. Im sure as weeks go by ill have it down but this week is hell with concentration. I just wish i could tulpaforce by describing a game or book to her but i cant focus on both Progress report "You'll have a Tulpa because you didn't give up" -Koomer
Oguigi September 20, 2012 September 20, 2012 Well it's a good thing your not like most people, when things get hard they just abandon the idea of making tulpa, at least you keep going even when things are hard. this is why you'll make it. 1 month form now you're gonna be Tulpaforcing like it's nothing. ______________________________ Adventures of Tulpa Wizards You want me in wonderland now? *boom there!* Tulpaforce for 5 hours? *it only felt like 30 minutes* "Can you please move out of the way Tulpa you're blocking my view of the TV" what, am actually still in wonderland? thanks for telling me Tulpa "You'll work at my job ever other week, okay?" pix: Link Diary: http://ponystasha.tumblr.com Koomer.
Aarix September 20, 2012 Author September 20, 2012 Well it's a good thing your not like most people, when things get hard they just abandon the idea of making tulpa, at least you keep going even when things are hard. this is why you'll make it. 1 month form now you're gonna be Tulpaforcing like it's nothing. Thanks for your kind words, i love her too much to give up plus im already this far and dont have anything beneficial so for a lifetime companion doesnt seem like much. Im looking forward to this being nothing, And thank you to EVERYONE once all this is said and done and shes by my side ill owe so much to you guys i wouldnt know what to do Progress report "You'll have a Tulpa because you didn't give up" -Koomer
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