Failure to be Hypnotized

[WhiiteRussian]

I am wondering if there is a connection between being able to be hypnotized and ability to make a tulpa.

 

If you have been up with a stage hypnotist or therapy hypnosis or whatever then post in this thread please.

 

What is required:

 

Have you been hypnotized: (Y/N)

Source of Hypnotist: (stage,therapy,video,audio, etc)

Approximate time spent tulpaforing: Days (Current day - Day started) and Approximate hour count

Stage in Tulpa creation: Visualization/Personality, Sentience/Narration, Imposition, or Complete

 

My basic hypothesis is that people who have more difficulty being hypnotized will struggle more with the creation process.

[Chupi]

Have you been hypnotized: No*

Source of Hypnotist: audio, self

Approximate time spent tulpaforing: 163 days / April 17 / no clue, stopped counting over a month ago at 270

Stage in Tulpa creation: between sentience and imposition; very much sentient but still working on hearing her easier

 

* - Tried audio files and self hypnosis, and just got pretty relaxed. I always remembered everything from it perfectly, regardless of if I wanted to. Generally wasn't as relaxed as I get when forcing. However my tulpa *may* have succeeded.

[TulpaCouple]

Have you been hypnotized: Y

Source of Hypnotist: Self, Audio, Stage, Therapy, general life, fiance, tulpa

Approximate time spent tulpaforing: No idea. Started in late May, skipped June, continued in July.

Stage in Tulpa creation: Sentient, mindvoice vocal, imposing

 

Chupi, hypnosis VERY rarely causes amnesia unless the file includes it or you have a very strong preconceived notion that it will. Or, you know, you fell asleep. Even then, memory loss is a very difficult thing to achieve when using self or audio. Stage hypnosis only succeeds really because of the whole situation--on stage, the lights, the hypnotist, the audience. The whole situation leads to the type of powerful situational belief that really can cause that crazy stuff to happen. In general---Trance feels like being relaxed physically, but WIDE awake mentally. You go into trance every night--right before sleep people fall into the exact state that is light/medium trance. Everyone goes through trance unless you never sleep.

[fagmaster9000]

Everyone goes through trance unless you never sleep.

But some people are ONLY able to go into trance when falling asleep. Some people are very difficult to hypnotize, it's just a basic fact of life. Even Derren Brown confirmed this.

 

And I do believe there's a connection with tulpa creation here, since both it and hypnosis involve suggestibility, that is, changing your subconcious beliefs through the influence of others or your own conscious self. Some people are simply more resistant to this than others.

 

As for myself, I've never been hypnotized despite trying many times; been working on my tulpa for about 6 months (never counted hours though) and while she's been sentient for a long time now, we haven't achieved speech or imposition yet.

 

To refine OP's hypothesis, I'd say it applies mostly to the hallucinatory part. That is, everyone can create a sentient tulpa quite easily, but in order to hear and see her, you need some form of self-hypnosis, which for some will be more difficult to achieve.

[Sands]

Have you been hypnotized: Yes

Source of Hypnotist: Audio, self (by accident somehow)

Approximate time spent tulpaforcing: Started forcing on June 13th, stopped actual forcing sessions after he got vocal around the 70 hour mark. Countless of other hours can be added if you consider just living the life and spending time with the tupper forcing.

Stage in Tulpa creation: Living together, rare imposing, possession, some work on actual audible hallucinations and a unique voice

[Kindofajerk]

Have you been hypnotized: N

Source of Hypnotist: attempted by therapy and audio

Approximate time spent tulpaforing: Around 3 weeks - 50+ hours

Stage in Tulpa creation: Fully vocal, working on imposing.

[emperor norton]

Never been hypnotized, but one of the people I work with at my current jobsite is a stage magician and hypnotist on the side. Said coworker offered to attempt hypnosis so I was wondering if anyone here had been under hypnosis after creating a tulpa, and if it is potentially harmful as falling asleep during forcing is believed to be.

[Sands]

Have been hypnotized after creating a tupper, nothing bad happened to him, of course. Why would it be harmful, unless the hypnosis somehow involved the tupper and they didn't agree to it or something?

[Queen Chrysalis]

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Not really... I was a terrible subject last time I tried.

 

As for the hypothesis here, nah, it's weak. Hypnosis is very different from meditation if for no other reason than that another person is involved.

 

Moreover, hypnosis doesn't really require relaxation; there are other methods. Different ball of wax entirely.

 

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[Guest Albatross_]

I am wondering if there is a connection between being able to be hypnotized and ability to make a tulpa.

 

I am glad you brought this up. Some time ago I started on an article relating to this subject but never finished it.

 

The primary attribute that the difficulty of both hypnotic induction and tulpa creation both hinge upon is suggestibility. Among hypnosis researchers (and psychologists) it is widely accepted that each individual has a different level of suggestibility: that is, a different extent to which suggestion can influence their thought process.

 

My basic hypothesis is that people who have more difficulty being hypnotized will struggle more with the creation process.

By all available data, and because both processes hinge upon the same independent variable, there should be a direct correlation between success with hypnotic induction and successful creation of a tulpa. By extension, I believe your hypothesis is correct and look forward to seeing the results of the data collected here.

 

As for your method:

 

I might suggest that you refine your stages. I think you should limit your stages to those that indicate level of sentience; I don't think you need data on, say, imposition for what you're testing here.

Also, hypnosis is not black and white. There are values in between "I was completely and utterly hypnotized" or "absolutely nothing changed". Hypnosis is effective in varying degrees for different people.

You should also make it clear that you only want data from people who have been subjected to a hypnotic induction (self-induction, therapuetic, etc.), and then ask for an indication of effectiveness.

As an example of these modifications, I present my own data:

 

Effectiveness of hypnotic induction (how 'hypnotized' did you get?) [1-10]: 4

Source of Hypnotist: (stage,therapy,video,audio, etc): Audio via Skype

Approximate time spent tulpaforcing: 150 days, 82 hours

Stage in Tulpa creation [Nonsentient, Autonomous, Vocal]*: Autonomous

 

*Note that Vocal implies Autonomous, as it is generally accepted that a vocal tulpa is more advanced than one that only moves.