Tulpa producing Adrenalin, Serotonin and Hormones

[motorheadlk]

So, adrenalin, serotonin and lot's of monoamines are controlled by the brain, and on http://tulpa.info/forums/Thread-Who-needs-real-friends , Fillyfooler mentioned he had a machine with a gauge or something with "Serotonin" written on, and his tulpa said only she could move the gauge.

 

There is also reports of people saying about tulpas that could cure headaches, snap you out of slepiness and things like that.

I wonder, is it possible, given that these things are controlled by your brain, to your tulpa to stimulate your glands into making hormones and monoamines and things like that?

 

For example, if you get scared your brain immediately stimulates glands to produce adrenalin, making you alert and things like that. If so, when you get scared you could ask yur tulpa if she could reproduce the "feeling" that being scared made you feel. If she's able, them you could produce adrenalin when you're sleepy and make you feel awake, and she could maybe even produce monoamines that could make you feel pleasure and stuff, and she could even produce hormones and well, free roids.

 

I mean, some months ago possession seemed like a myth, but if to cure pain and taking out your slepiness are possible, then this could be the next level of tulpaforcing.

 

Anyone willing to try this? Seems like the halloween is the perfect occasion to get scared, ask your tulpa to reproduce the feeling and test this out. I mean, just imagine being able to produce adrenalin anytime you need, you'll never need a coffee again. It's just, such a great idea if someone could do it. I wonder what we would call it if it's possible. Metabolic control? It's just, argh, I just need this to be done.

 

Edit: Forgot to mention, there are people who claim that their tulpa can control their "horny levels" and make intrusive thoughts like bad songs go away.

Edit 2: Just remembered something else, there was a guy on /mlp/ that said that his tulpa could make he orgasm whenever she wanted.

[iloveportalz0r]

Interesting subject…

 

Created a thread on tulpa.info about this.

For science, faggots!

 

I see you ._.

[motorheadlk]

Interesting subject…

 

 

I see you ._.

 

Yes, me, anonymous. :cool:

PS: Off to school, it's almost 7AM here in Brazil. Can't wait for people with high levels of wizardry try it and report here.

[QB2]

I have had QB remove an intrusive song from my thought process, but that was basically just drowning it out, by getting me to concentrate on him then feeding me white noise.

I probably could have simulated something similar myself; he was just a focus.

And that's the thing: I doubt a tulpa can really have much more ability than you can, when it comes to things like this. Unless, somewhere in your brain, you personally possess the ability to control your hormones, I don't see your tulpa getting anything more than a small shove toward being able to himself. And I've never met anyone who can control their hormones. Certainly not to a noticeable degree, anyway.

[motorheadlk]

I have had QB remove an intrusive song from my thought process, but that was basically just drowning it out, by getting me to concentrate on him then feeding me white noise.

I probably could have simulated something similar myself; he was just a focus.

And that's the thing: I doubt a tulpa can really have much more ability than you can, when it comes to things like this. Unless, somewhere in your brain, you personally possess the ability to control your hormones, I don't see your tulpa getting anything more than a small shove toward being able to himself. And I've never met anyone who can control their hormones. Certainly not to a noticeable degree, anyway.

 

You are a part of your consciousness, your tulpa is not. Your subconscious control these thing, you don't. Again, given that there are reports of tulpae with the ability to do things like making your slepiness go away (that's one of the adrenalin jobs, btw) then I don't know why this couldn't be done.

 

I mean, this is a research session, I just think that we should test things more. The limits of what our tulpas can or can't do are unknown.

[QB2]

I'm just pointing out the misconceptions, for those who figure it's as simple as your tulpa jumping in and flipping a few switches. Best to be prepared, especially if someone plans to test this sort of thing. They've got to realize that they actually have to work for it themselves instead of assuming their tulpa has unlimited access to every drop of their potential and leaving it at that.

[motorheadlk]

I'm just pointing out the misconceptions, for those who figure it's as simple as your tulpa jumping in and flipping a few switches. Best to be prepared, especially if someone plans to test this sort of thing. They've got to realize that they actually have to work for it themselves instead of assuming their tulpa has unlimited access to every drop of their potential and leaving it at that.

 

Well, of course, but to those who already have tulpas that can somehow control things in their body that even the hosts can't control, well, I don't think it's a long way. Probably a week or so for an average guy with a tulpa that can at least do low level possession and is sentient and fluent. But seriously, our tulpa levels of learning are way higher than ours, I don't doubt one would test this and his tulpa would say she can already control everything.

[Natasha]

R.I.P to whoever actually manages to recreate the process and then have no control over it and release stupid amounts of adrenaline into their body. ^_^

(There´s a reason why you can´t just do it on command, pushing your body beyond it´s limit and all, ya know?)

[Weird0]

I doubt a tulpa can really have much more ability than you can' date=' when it comes to things like this.[/quote']

 

This.

 

I've heared about some monks who can suppress adrenalin rushes and release them later. After like, meditating all your life.

It's completely out of reach for any conscious, tulpa or human, to release hormones and such.

 

And even if we could, i doubt we would be able to control the amount of those.

A little too much adrenalin and you can enjoy your brain hemorrhage.

[Guest Anonymous]

We already had a discussion on a subject matter very similar to this, and I already swatted down their dream as is accustom.

I would say claiming a tulpa is able to completely control the release of neurochemicals and their respective inhibitors is a bit of a stretch. While it is possible control pain tolerance to a certain extent with enough training, it's only ever on a psychological level as far as we know. The control of pain tolerance has been practiced in certain Buddhist disciplines for quite awhile now, and is definitely possible, but we understand very little on how exactly it works. So I would say with enough time and effort it's possible to use a tulpa as an aid for pain control, but only to an extent. Now that's not to completely dismiss the idea of tulpae having a strong connection to neurochemistry, as it's what I believe would be the only way to obtain scientific proof of tulpae existing as I've mentioned in previous threads.

 

There's quite a few reasons it'd be highly unlikely, if not completely impossible for a tulpa to interfere with neurochemistry, but I think the most obvious reason is that it would be impossible to control inhibitory neurotransmitter receptors. Unless a tulpa can conjure any particular inhibitory neurotransmitter out of thin air, there would be no way to control the release of chemicals into the synaptic cleft. Specifically for pain control, you can't simply shut off serotonin transporters without serotonin inhibitors, which means there's nothing stopping it from dispersing into the synaptic cleft and binding to serotonin receptors when you are in pain. Likewise, there's no way to inhibit inhibitory neurotransmitter cells from releasing into the synapse and binding to their respective chemical's transporter.

 

But entertaining the idea (for now), a tulpa would be able to also control GABA, glutamate, anandamide, and any neurochemicals reactive with μ-opioid receptors, to cover most major chemicals related to pain. But in theory a tulpa should be able to control literally every native and non-native neurochemical and inhibitory neurochemical equally well if they were able to alter neurochemistry in the first place. That would also mean they would be able to alter the effects of tryptamines and phenethylamines, completely changing drug trips. They'd also be able to create certain natural highs to mimic drugs like THC, since they'd be able to have an endless supply of anandamide feeding into inhibitory neurotransmitter cell's receptors, replacing it as it dissolves.

 

If this is at all possible, it'd be one of the largest breakthroughs in history for pharmaceutical companies, the DEA, and any stoner with a little patience.

TL;DR: It's not possible because of stuff in the brain and stuff.