Viceroy's gonna make one and has a few questions.

[Viceroy]

I apologize in advance because some of these questions are undoubtedly mundane, but I need answers despite my extensive lurking and research because I am not sure which info is current, which is dated, which is generally accepted and which is not.

 

What are the essential facets of the creation process? Something like visualization, narration, and imposition right? I think this was Pleeb's stance as discussed on the radio. Point being that the process is subjective and everything in between the "3 basic things" was up to the creator.

 

Do you need to decide a form? If no, what is it that you visualize while creating them?

 

Do you need to decide a personality? Can you also/instead give them traits that aren't necessarily boiled-down base personality facets, such as "likes cats" or "is a buddhist?"

 

How do you make sure your narration is helpful?

 

Thank you for taking the time to help me. I really do want to get started ASAP, I'm just a careful planner and want to make sure I can lay everything out to minimize mistakes/optimize efficiency.

[Barktooth]

I'm a newb myself, but..

Do you need to decide a form? If no, what is it that you visualize while creating them?

You can just visualize them as an orb of light/energy. The tulpa will probably deviate from that on its own later on.

Do you need to decide a personality? Can you also/instead give them traits that aren't necessarily boiled-down base personality facets, such as "likes cats" or "is a buddhist?"

As far as I know, this stage is important and can't be skipped. I'm not doing boiled-down traits, though - just general ones, like - smart, open-minded, funny, lively etc..

 

 

How do you make sure your narration is helpful?

I guess there's really no way.. You just wait until your tulpa is vocal and says something to you. You will also probably get emotional bursts from them sometimes.

 

That's all I know :P P.S. Good luck with your tulpa!

[Pinkamena]

I can only answer from my experience that you do not have to have a personality. But if you don't give them a personality they may develop one that you don't like (If they develop one at all).

 

When pinkamena first existed she did not have a personality. Her only thought in life was to do what I was thinking about when I accidentally created her. I would not allow her to do this so she begin to think about other things which lead to questioning.

 

That started her on a road to a childlike personality of adventuring, questioning, and being happy.

 

Then at that early point I changed her personality.

 

If I had not visualized her form, since I did not visualize a personality I doubt she could have come to exist.

[TulpaCouple]

What are the essential facets of the creation process?

The essentials are who they are, what they look like, and then establishing communication. So yes, visualization, personality, and narration are the basics. How they can be done seems to depend on the creator. ex. Long list of personality traits, symbolism like filling the tulpa's shell with 'light' representing the personality, umbrella personality traits(One trait that covers many aspects, this was my method. I used 5 traits total that represented as many as 40 or so of the smaller traits if I were to use the other method), or even just knowing the personality well enough that you converse with the tulpa as if they are the person you know they are. Some parts of creation don't seem necessary, but again, that depends on the creator. There have been some accidental tulpae that were just disembodied voices--so visualization was somehow skipped. Others have tried not creating the personality and letting it form via experiences, skipping personality. I think narration is the only one you can't really skip, it seems to be the big key in creating sentience--treating the tulpa as a living being and conversing with it, expecting it to answer. Just creating that separation alone seems to spark that first sentient thought in the tulpa's mind.

 

Do you need to decide a form?

No. It can be a ball, a being in a vague shape made out of smoke, or pick an easy placeholder the tulpa can change later. Or you know, make a shapeshifter tulpa.

 

Do you need to decide a personality?

I mentioned this above. No, you can ignore personality, and you can force it in any way you want. Jaden tells me his personality was formed not by the personality sessions, but by my fully understanding his personality and 'knowing' who he was. When I knew who he was, that was all I needed. He did enjoy personality though, it helped him reinforce his confidence.

 

How do you make sure your narration is helpful?

When it comes to narration, quantity is most important. Just talk a lot. Talk like you would talk to a friend. It can be headvoice or out loud. You can even work on personality while narrating-sit and chat and teach him/her about who they are, etc.

[Sands]

And I can tell you that you don't even need a form when you start forcing, if you can do it without having something to look at. For a pretty long time, Roswell had no form (not even a ball or anything) but he still was. I just talked to the feeling of him in my head. Having this weird tupper spot in your head doesn't seem to be too uncommon. Being formless might've actually helped us when it comes to him ignoring the senses of his imaginary body, because that came second so it is natural for him to not have another body to worry about. For easier possession, maybe? Starting to seem like that way, listening to some other stories.

 

Also can vouch for personality not needed and what really made Roswell who he is was my understanding of him. Of course he has learned and decided things on his own, he has changed from what he was some time ago as he's grown. Personality was good narration practice though, so it wasn't a waste for us.

[Viceroy]

So can I bring a tulpa to sapience with pure narration? Just talking to them sometimes throughout the day, maybe taking an hour every now and then to have a deep convo with them? Will that really work? I don't have to do any visualization at all? And I can do it out-loud or with thoughtvoice?

 

I wrote down a couple paragraphs as to what sort of person I'd like them to be, I can just talk to them like I would a friend over the phone from there? I was thinking this would be a good method for me, if it would work. I haven't given them a name or a form and probably won't do any visualizing if my preferred method would work.

[Raetin]

Yes, just make sure you're talking to them and not to yourself, and know that they're sentient.