Help, need someone experienced in Astral Projection

[Argus Plexus]

I have been attempting astral projection for about a week now, as part of my personal journey into the unknown. So far I've only been able to free a finger or two of my astral body, sometimes a hand or forearm too. This takes immense concentration and patience on my part, as I lay there for at least an hour before I am able to do so. You see, I'm having trouble with inducing sleep paralysis. It seems like I can get my hands and forearms to go into it fine, but the rest of my body just simply refuses to do it. I'm hitting this roadblock, I don't know why, and I need the advice of someone with some experience in it to get past this obstacle. I have experienced sleep paralysis several times, always on accident. But now I'm trying to consciously make it happen.

 

Any help is appreciated, thanks for taking the time to help me out! Namaste ^.^

[Lacquer]

I'd also like to see this. If there's any of this metaphysical mumbo-jumbo that I'd like to try, it'd be astral projection.

[tania]

Namaste :) . I have a some experience in this area.

 

You actually dont need to go into a sleep paralyses state to do an astral projection thou some do do it from there.

 

As you have found out, the bodies extremeties are the first parts of the astral body to loosen (fingers/hands/feet). What you can try once you feel parts your astral body starting to disconnect from your physical body.. is to try to summersault out. (Ive found that will either then take me into a lucid dream or into an out of body experience where Im in the astral of earths realm).

 

Another method (this dont work for me but I know it does work for many others) is Roberts Bruce's rope technique... imagine there is a rope just above you and imagine yourself climbing it... pull yourself up the imaginary rope. This can free your body. Or you can go the other way and imagine sinking down and down throu the bed.

 

Once you get free of your body, move right away from it as its easy to end up back in it. If you get out and find yourself blind (this often happens to me) dont worry about it just move away from your body and out of your bedroom, your astral sight will end up coming in.

 

 

Best luck

 

ps.. If you dont have success. I highly recommend the Book "Astral Projection" by Denning and Phillips. Its set up like a AP course and was how I learnt to astrally project after so MANY other techniques had failed me. (it teaches energy raising technique which make it much easier to get out. I was getting out spontanously after following this AP program). When doing astral projection make sure you do some protection technique as there is lots of stuff out there, not always good.

 

Im hoping that I can pass on my ability to astral project to my Tulpa so he hopefully will be able to do some unusual things (eg track down lost objects in places I havent been etc) as getting out of body isnt all that easy and I figure Tulpas may be able to do it far easier then one can physically do it. I cant wait till he's ready for me to start experimenting with him.

[Chupi]

Im hoping that I can pass on my ability to astral project to my Tulpa so he hopefully will be able to do some unusual things (eg track down lost objects in places I havent been etc) as getting out of body isnt all that easy and I figure Tulpas may be able to do it far easier then one can physically do it. I cant wait till he's ready for me to start experimenting with him.

 

A few things:

 

Mental projection (i.e. visualization-based AP without sleep paralysis) is easier to get into quickly or with practice even be in while doing other things. This is what Forge does.

 

Tulpae ought to have an easier time learning AP than you, since they're already effectively living in an OBE state. They don't have to go through the whole mess of getting to sleep paralysis and shimmying out of the body. They just have to make a portal that will lead them somewhere in the astral and enter it in the right mindset.

 

With work you can learn to OBE instantly, without sleep paralysis, other near-sleep thing, or any slow annoying rigamarole. I don't know what this would translate into in terms of AP since the person I know who does this doesn't do any meta, but I suspect it would work as well as full sleep paralysis-based AP.

[Sands]

This is what Forge does.

 

...Who has refused to do it with anyone else except one person despite succeeding according to them.

[tania]

 

...Who has refused to do it with anyone else except one person despite succeeding according to them.

 

I dont know that forge person being spoken about but what I do know is that people who can do these things, cant be bothered with trying to prove it to every Tom, Dick and Harry who doesnt really even believe in it. This whole thing would get old fast and even if one did get things right and describe to someone what they were doing last night when they saw them, the other may turn around and still disbelieve and say the whole thing was consequential.

 

Those who arent open to things like this are the very last people one wants to use up ones time on trying to prove things to.

 

hahaha.. it sensored what I was saying just as a normal name.

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Tulpae ought to have an easier time learning AP than you, since they're already effectively living in an OBE state. They don't have to go through the whole mess of getting to sleep paralysis and shimmying out of the body.

 

Thanks Chupi.. your post helped make the thoughts I was having on it all a bit clearer. You are right, they just wouldnt be connected to the physical body in the same ways we are so it should be a lot easier. (I was just guessing all this before but wasnt coming from any rational view point on it so thanks for helping me get some clarity).

 

 

Mental projection (i.e. visualization-based AP without sleep paralysis) is easier to get into quickly or with practice even be in while doing other things. This is what Forge does.

 

Mental projection ie remote viewing, travelling clairvoyance, bilocation among some names for this form of thing.. is a bit different to what is usually termed "astral projection" and yeah its easier for many people to do and one doesnt have to be in anywhere as relaxed a state as one does for the normal astral OBE thing.

 

With that Ive found the mental?? energy body isnt as stuck into the physical as the astral body is and is freer to move out with (its picking up on things while out correctly which is the hard thing.. that (picking up correct info) is something which is more easily to do when in a normal OBE state but then the getting out is hard). The different methods each have their pros and cons.

[Sands]

 

I dont know that forge person being spoken about but what I do know is that people who can do these things, cant be bothered with trying to prove it to every Tom, yogurt cannon and Harry who doesnt really even believe in it. This whole thing would get old fast and even if one did get things right and describe to someone what they were doing last night when they saw them, the other may turn around and still disbelieve and say the whole thing was consequential.

 

It's not that. It's that he was willing to prove it to one person, apparently succeeded and would then be able to try it with someone else as well. He refuses. Absolutely refuses, just like everyone else who was in that experiment. That's what should ring the warning bell to anyone. That thing was what made a lot of people interested in it and they wanted to try it. Honestly try it, because the person who said it was a success was someone they trusted. But no dice, just refusal. And then the people who wanted to try and were willing to give it a honest go turned sour as well, because they felt like they were being cheated.

[Argus Plexus]

Neat, thanks for the insight!

[Lacquer]

So does anyone have a tested working (for themselves) guide on this, so I can try it for myself?

[tania]

So does anyone have a tested working (for themselves) guide on this, so I can try it for myself?

 

 

"ps.. If you dont have success. I highly recommend the Book "Astral Projection" by Denning and Phillips. Its set up like a AP course and was how I learnt to astrally project after so MANY other techniques had failed me. "

 

Lacquer.. I suggest check out the above book I mentioned if you want to try this. Someone I once mentioned the book too, did an online search and told me they'd found the book online to read. (The first place they found it in didnt have the full book but only the first few chapters which it doesnt get into the techniques for it till after that, but he/she then found a place online which had it in full for free to read). So try doing a search for it. The book is sometimes called "The Llewellyn Practical Guide to Astral Projection" or "Astral Projection The out of body Experience" anyway.. Denning and Phillips is the authors.