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[Guest MegaBusta]

Yes. That's right. You know when you read driving manuals (I hope you read yours before getting your license! ;) ) and they tell you "at so and so feet, do X?" Well, I just have to go with what I see is reasonable. (Sometimes what I see is reasonable turns out to be much closer than what I would guess ___ feet/yards/meters looks like! Interesting.) Because I don't know what the hell 250 feet is, apparently. With adults, I've gotten feet, yards, etc estimates wrong, over and over.

 

You can't even eyeball 250 feet? Get off the road, you're a danger to yourself and others.

[Yori]

Use your common sense, man. That's another thing that some of the stupid question askers seem to lack. We're on the internet and searching an FAQ, scanning through a few pages of Q&A or even reading a few guides - you know, things that newcomers should be doing even if they didn't have questions - is never as much effort as walking a long distance.

 

Missing the point. You know I never thought that the two were the same.

 

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Haha, alright. You could have saved yourself some embarrassment by looking up what 100 meters is instead of admitting to us that you didn't know. I had a suspicion that you were American as soon as you compared driving to walking and made it quite clear that you didn't consider it lazy, but know I know beyond all doubt.

 

EDIT: it seems you don't know what 300 feet is either. In that case, you're beyond saving. Besides, if you used your head you'd realise that it was in fact not comparable to 15 minutes' walking, and thus understand my point. The precise distance doesn't matter, does it?

 

First of all, people of all sorts of nationalities can be spotted comparing driving to walking. How ridiculous. It's not like it's a trend here to do that. At least not where I'm from. So no, I didn't pick it up from being American.

 

What isn't comparable to 15 minutes of walking? And which is it? What the hell are you saying? You said I made it clear I don't consider "it" lazy but then said that something wasn't comparable to 15 minutes of walking. If that something refers to your example, you can't have it both ways... if my statement about not doing the 15 min of walking reveals that I don't consider "it" lazy, then clearly your example *is* comparable to 15 minutes of walking, or at least not far off enough to stop assuming how I'd view it.

 

As for your mistake of assuming that I was asking what it was in feet, I don't understand why you'd automatically assume that I was being shameless and admitting I don't know how many feet 100 meters is in feet when I never said anything about not knowing how many feet it is.

You say I don't know what 300 feet is "either", as if to imply I don't know what it is in the same way that someone doesn't know meters to feet.

 

Not what I mean. What I mean is that I can't put visual distance into the man-made units we have for it. If you knew that and said I was beyond saving, it's not very nice to make fun of brain differences or deficiencies. I was born with them, just as I was born with no sense of direction (making it hard to know how to get to places I've been to while driving without real conscious effort of noting and a rundown from someone or something else of the path *whilst* I'm driving it first. then, I'd need the same to go backwards, because I can't do reverses. shit.)

 

And while we're talking about my deficiencies, I can't copy dance routines from watching like other people do, or memorize songs like other people do either. At least I don't apply when teachers tell their students that they should memorize their subjects like they do songs.

 

Ok. I'm done talking about my deficiencies.

[Sands]

My point was that you are trying to say that face to face conversations = online conversations through text. Guess what, they aren't the same. They are very different mediums and you can use as much time as you want to type a text message. Also, in order for you to be able to write text messages online, you must actually be... Online. Woah. Guess what else is online? Google. Guess what you can do in a few seconds? Write a question in that search bar there. Have fun, you have a lot of information at your hands now.

 

You are constantly trying to redefine lazy. Lazy means lazy. It means you're not doing shit to do something. Like say, searching when you could. Oh and it still is disrespectful, because you're not using any of your time finding a question that could easily be found and instead are asking for others to waste their time so they can tell something to your lazy ass.

 

If you try your best to search for something and come to the conclusion that it doesn't exist even when it does, yeah, that's unlucky. Bad searching terms or maybe the question/answer was worded strangely, so it was close to impossible to find. That happens, especially with people who can't word their title at all. Shit happens, but when you've tried, you're not lazy. It depends on the question where you should search, something like tuppers is pretty rare and for that, just searching these forums or whatever other tupper forum you've chosen is enough. What if it's a forum about computers and you got a computer problem? That's stuff that you can find answers to everywhere, so Google should be your weapon of choice. It's pretty obvious when a person has tried searching for something and when they haven't.

 

It's not that difficult.

[Yori]

 

You can't even eyeball 250 feet? Get off the road, you're a danger to yourself and others.

 

Uh, it doesn't affect my driving at all. You mistake correlating depth with units with the ability to perceive depth and distance at all. My distance perception is fine. I know if something is "too close" or "too far", etc, I've been driving for a while now. (For example, knowing if I can turn Left in traffic without being hit by traffic. I'm even able to adjust that by the speed the traffic is going. Knowing how close or how far away I am from an object or person.)

 

Never been in danger of being hit or hitting anyone. I just couldn't tell you how too close it was in units. No crime in that.

[Sands]

Protip: Know how tall you are. Now imagine as many of you as it takes to reach the distance. That's how long it is.

[Yori]

Sands, excuse me, but you can't put restrictors on what "trying" means and then say 'lazy is when you don't try... *to do -my suggestion-*. Ex: someone can do the same thing with this and say "lazy is when you don't even try to search similar things in the occult archives as well." Something you're not suggesting. Gah, this is clearly just opinion stuff. "Its unreasonable not to do this" "No, it's unreasonable not to do this" "No, not trying should apply to not doing X action" "No, not trying should apply to not doing Y action"

 

Buut we could still try to debate it. Just stop trying to say the dictionary beats me or you. It doesn't, just like it doesn't for words like "pretty" or "lame." Let's at least be honest about that here. Some adjective words aren't absolute like that. Oh well.

 

So, are you saying it's lazy and disrespectful not to try to Google when they don't find the answer just by searching this one place, or not?

 

And you're missing the point. I was giving an explanation as to why some people don't do it, that it's an automatic thing for some rather than a "omg dont feel like it." I KNOW that offline is not online. I'm just saying, for the last time, that it comes natural to me to ask a question that comes up from a conversation while I'm conversing with someone, just like when I'm talking to someone face to face, and as unlikely for me to think of whipping out Google as I would then, too. Natural, automatic, you know? You can't reply to my explaining that "X and Y situation are both like this for me" trying to invalidate that by saying "X is not Y." I know that. How crazy would I like saying "X and X are both like this for me." This apple tastes like apple. If you can't get what I'm actually saying, forget it.

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Protip: Know how tall you are. Now imagine as many of you as it takes to reach the distance. That's how long it is.

 

You think I haven't tried that ;-; Using myself as a unit helps a bit, but in distances like 100 feet or so it stops helping.

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I would also like to announce that I haven't come across anyone I consistently see, that tells others to Google things and tells them they're lazy, who hasn't been caught asking a question they could have easily Googled in conversations. It's like the thing everyone's a hypocrite about. I'd bet shitloads of money that there are many instances that you have done that yourself, Sands. Tsk. Lazy and disrespectful.

[waffles]

Missing the point. You know I never thought that the two were the same.

We were discussing whether such a thing (with regards to the FAQ and such) were lazy, and then you told me that you didn't think not wanting to walk a long distance was lazy. That's why I thought that you might have been comparing it to something.

 

 

First of all, people of all sorts of nationalities can be spotted comparing driving to walking. How ridiculous. It's not like it's a trend here to do that. At least not where I'm from. So no, I didn't pick it up from being American.

There's a river in Egypt that you might want to not consider lazy to not search for on Google.

 

 

What isn't comparable to 15 minutes of walking? And which is it? What the hell are you saying? You said I made it clear I don't consider "it" lazy but then said that something wasn't comparable to 15 minutes of walking. If that something refers to your example, you can't have it both ways... if my statement about not doing the 15 min of walking reveals that I don't consider "it" lazy, then clearly your example *is* comparable to 15 minutes of walking, or at least not far off enough to stop assuming how I'd view it.

OK, now that I know you're American I can blame the American education system for this. Look at this quote:

it seems you don't know what 300 feet is either. In that case, you're beyond saving. Besides, if you used your head you'd realise that it was in fact not comparable to 15 minutes' walking, and thus understand my point. The precise distance doesn't matter, does it?

When I used "it" in the second-to-last sentence, the previous object that I had referred to was '300 feet'. In fact, I had not referred to any other object in that paragraph so I don't know what else you think it might have referred to. But for your benefit, I'll rewrite:

it seems you don't know what 300 feet is either. In that case, you're beyond saving. Besides, if you used your head you'd realise that 300 feet/100 meters was in fact not comparable to 15 minutes' walking, and thus understand my point. The precise distance doesn't matter, does it?

And as for what you do and don't consider lazy, I think it should be obvious that I was referring to driving instead of walking. Common sense, man, use it.

 

 

As for your mistake of assuming that I was asking what it was in feet, I don't understand why you'd automatically assume that I was being shameless and admitting I don't know how many feet 100 meters is in feet when I never said anything about not knowing how many feet it is.

I assumed that you didn't know what a meter was, rather than assuming that you had no comprehension of length in general. That's reasonable, I think.

 

 

Not what I mean. What I mean is that I can't put visual distance into the man-made units we have for it. If you knew that and said I was beyond saving, it's not very nice to make fun of brain differences or deficiencies. I was born with them, just as I was born with no sense of direction (making it hard to know how to get to places I've been to while driving without real conscious effort of noting and a rundown from someone or something else of the path *whilst* I'm driving it first. then, I'd need the same to go backwards, because I can't do reverses. shit.)

 

And while we're talking about my deficiencies, I can't copy dance routines from watching like other people do, or memorize songs like other people do either. At least I don't apply when teachers tell their students that they should memorize their subjects like they do songs.

 

Ok. I'm done talking about my deficiencies.

That's great. I'm not making fun of you, I'm saying that you're beyond saving. If you've made it to 22 without managing to fix it then you probably won't be able to in the future. But here's a tip: go and look at a 100m running track or something, or a football pitch; something that you know the length of. Then, whenever you have to judge a distance, overlay that between you and the distant point.

[Yori]

What? I am not 22. But I get the point, whatever,

 

As for the American education system bit, I just didn't know why you'd be saying that, it's not the education system here. It's not standardized across the board anyway, so you can't make that generalization.

 

And I'm not in denial. There's nothing American about driving/walking references. -blinks-

If you've grown up on statements like that, or were around statements like that, realize that your life experience isn't the world and try to imagine someone who didn't. It's sort of also what people need to do when they think someone literally had to have been a shut-in not to know about X person/subject, to give you an idea of what I mean. (not including things are taught in school. then they clearly were absent or sleeping. or something.). "Were you living under a rock?" Meanwhile, the person hearing it might be thinking "What? I've never heard of this. It must not be very popular at all." In that case, they'd be doing the same thing, not imagining that they haven't heard of all things popular.

[Sands]

Not sure what the occult archives would be used for, also are they online and easily searchable? If not, they have nothing to do with this chat about how internet searching is very simple and it's just lazy to not even try. For a scientific view of tulpas, looking through occult anything would do shit - unless of course, you were to write something about some paranormal side of tulpas and needed material. In that case, go ahead. Search.

 

I don't think you understand definitions. Opinions =/= definitions. You know what the definition of lazy is. It outright tells you that you are lazy if you don't do something you could.

 

And online and offline are still different and have different ways you gotta use them. You can't do the same stuff you do online offline and vice versa. They have different rules. Face to face, they're the only thing you can ask unless someone else joins you. Online, the entire internet is there. Not using it to you advantage is stupid.

 

For the distances, you will still know how many of you would it take and then you can say if it's a long distance or not. You might not know the exact distance and I'm not one to really get distances myself either, but knowing if it's "long" or "short" is usually enough.

 

Is there some other mental problem we should be aware of here? Kinda starting to feel that way and you know, it would help both of us a lot if we understood where you're coming from better. Okay dammit I tried avoiding asking if you're autistic or something but I can't, help.

[Yori]

I don't know what to say to that first paragraph, except: Wow. also: It's never specified that people searching want scientific -anything-

 

And yes, I understand definitions. However, opinions involve words, don't they? And all words are defined. Yet, there are opinions. We already went over this stuff the last time someone tried to solve this by putting out a definition. I think we both know that you don't mean to say that someone is lazy whenever they don't do something that they can do.

 

I know that online and offline are different. It was implied that someone has a phone or device that they could Google with, clearly.

 

And no, I'm not autistic. If you don't know what autism is, don't use it. To clear things up, Autism is not mental retardation if that's what you're insinuating. I'm not autistic but I do know that tons of very-not-lazy autistics would be willing to come on here and give you a piece of their mind if you were to insinuate that. That's not to say that some people with autism are not retarded.

 

Can you state specifically what symptoms of autism I'm displaying here that makes you wonder if I'm autistic? Don't just state the symptom but explain where/how I'm displaying it.

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I'm getting tired of the pointless back and forth bits. It looks like we won't get anywhere with whether or not anything's lazy, or what opinions are, or the online/offline stuff.

 

But I am willing to talk about the wonderings of what mental conditions I have.

And also whether or not the supposed indolence is something that needs to be solved in the first place. In case you forgot, my answer is no. I'm an ass, I know, not caring about real problems like that.

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For the record, I'm a searcher and you can use google to help search this forum (or any forum). I like stalking people and collecting other kinds of data for malicious intent (kidding about the last part), so I learned how to search better.

 

If the forum search is editing out words that you need, here is what you can do: For some reason forums always take out words that are 3 letters or less ;-; when there's a specific phrase you're searching for that doesn't help. But Google doesn't do this, so I just type the phrase into Google and then search this site or search the site with it. What I mean is, you can add site:community.tulpa.info to the search or "community.tulpa.info" to the search... but the latter will include other sites that have the site name inside.

 

If Google is including words that you didn't even search for that are synonyms (or not even synonyms with the meaning you're using T-T) or different tenses of words but you don't want those, you have to choose Verbatim in the search tools. Or I think it's search tools.

 

Sometimes I just skip the forum search and go to google.

I guess not every single thing in the forum is in google though... sadface.