waffles October 19, 2013 Author October 19, 2013 What? I am not 22. But I get the point, whatever, Damn, must have confused you with someone else. As for the American education system bit, I just didn't know why you'd be saying that, it's not the education system here. It's not standardized across the board anyway, so you can't make that generalization. It's a stereotype. And I'm not in denial. There's nothing American about driving/walking references. -blinks- -blinks- The first stage is denial... If you've grown up on statements like that, or were around statements like that, realize that your life experience isn't the world and try to imagine someone who didn't. Obviously neither of us has lived everywhere in America for long enough to say whether or not Americans drive more. However, my stats that I found on Google do tell me that on average Americans drive more than Brits: The Federal Highway Administration tells me that the average American drives 13746 miles per year, while the Department for Transport tells me that the average Brit drives 3430 miles per year (6726 miles travelled per year, 51% of distance travelled is driven). Plus I know - at least, I think - that the average European drives less than the average Brit. And I know that America is bigger than Europe but come on, that's a huge gap. And anyway, stats aside, it's a stereotype.
Yori October 19, 2013 October 19, 2013 waffles bby, you failed to think of multiple reasons accounting for the large difference in stats. I'd want to know, at least, America's attractions vs Britain's attractions, how popular road trips are vs the countries (your guess is not enough, so don't answer), how popular it is to choose driving instead of flying between the countries (we have people afraid of TSA here), how often we try to go places in the first place, etc. Maybe many Brits polled have no lives or are too poor to have a life and go anywhere. (Kidding.) My lip hurts.
Guest MegaBusta October 19, 2013 October 19, 2013 The US has a lot more empty space & interstates in it than yurop does.
Yori October 19, 2013 October 19, 2013 Oh, also, how many children exist in the countries matters too, childrens likes to go places. How often American citizens are forced to go places matters as well. Forced by all kinds of courts (sad face), etc. I heard we go to court way more often, but I never looked it up ;) My lip hurts.
Sands October 19, 2013 October 19, 2013 I specified that if a person was looking for a scientific view of tulpas like these very forums, then yes, going through occult anything wouldn't help them there. And again, unless said occult archives actually are online and easily searchable, they have nothing to do with a conversation about searching on the internet. Opinions involve words with definitions in them, yeah. Not sure where you're trying to get there because that part is obvious. If I call you lazy, that might be my opinion, sure. But you would know what I mean with lazy. And if you actually match the word, even if your own opinion disagrees? Guess what, you're lazy. You're still trying to bring online into offline by saying that there's a phone you could Google with. It's a face to face conversation. You don't pull out a phone there unless it's required for something. That's not something you do in a conversation like that and the fact that you're trying to suggest it to me like it's a thing we should consider is just silly at best. Well, the fact that you're requiring me to try and quote everything I think you said is autistic and how is pretty autistic, like trying to make a nice pretty list because you can't actually reflect on what you said from my point of view. I can list some things, sure, but I'd basically have to quote entire posts and I'm actually lazy here... A lot of what you says points to you just being very naïve, which I've noticed many autistic people are due to one thing or another. You also don't exactly seem to be getting the social norms in different communities and that's common with autistic people, too. You know, you don't seem to be thinking that it's normal to be searching something online and for some reason you keep bringing online searches into face to face conversations, which doesn't really happen. That would be kinda rude, stopping the chat to pull out whatever to go to Google. There's also the refusal of change, or maybe it's the inability to be able to see something from someone else's point of view, because you're doing a lot of me me me thinking. I'm also not sure if you have problems with reading comprehension (don't think that's a symptom?) or if you just try to take everything literally (which is a symptom), because you're having a hard time getting a lot of information from the text we write. Oh, and the inability to judge distances is a symptom, though if you version of it is included, I don't know. And no, we're not going to talk about you mental conditions. You asked and it was mentioned before, so I wrote you that list. But this thread isn't about you and your signature isn't a Facebook status update. Maybe I got you wrong and it's narcissism and not autism... The THE SUBCONCIOUS ochinchin occultists frt.sys (except Roswell because he doesn't want to be a part of it)
Yori October 19, 2013 October 19, 2013 "Well, the fact that you're requiring me to try and quote everything I think you said is autistic and how is pretty autistic, like trying to make a nice pretty list because you can't actually reflect on what you said from my point of view." You're coming off as a troll. I could go around telling most people they sound autistic and they would have also to be told where they're sounding autistic act. I never told you to quote anything, though. Clearly, since I'm claiming not to be autistic, and don't think I've been acting autistic, no I cannot answer for myself why you would think I am autistic. You're replying again about the online/offline as if the likelihood of being told to google while talking has any bearing on what I was saying. I told you to forget it, since you can't seem to comprehend my actual point.. you're strawmanning what I'm actually saying, either purposely or you really don't know what I'm saying. I never said the thread was about me. Again, you're coming off as a troll. You are acting as if I wanted to dedicate the thread to my mind, when you're the one who brought up information about my mental conditions and was asking the questions. If you have nothing else to ask or say on it, that's great. I would prefer not to be asked if I have anything else. Excuse me for offering to answer. I guess that makes me narcissistic. Ok, I guess we're done with mental conditions as well. As with that, I am done talking to you about anything. You keep 'responding' to me with things that don't address what I was actually saying and implying that I made points I didn't. I won't waste anymore time trying to undo the twisting of my words you insist on doing. Have a nice day. My lip hurts.
waffles October 19, 2013 Author October 19, 2013 you failed to think of multiple reasons accounting for the large difference in stats. I know, but they don't matter because firstly Americans do drive more, end of story, and secondly it's a stereotype. Still: I'd want to know, at least, America's attractions vs Britain's attractions Domestic tourism spending in the US is about $2000 per person per year and in the UK is about £500 ($800) per person per year. It's not miles driven but it's close enough. how popular road trips are vs the countries No idea but probably not statistically significant. how popular it is to choose driving instead of flying between the countries Domestic air travel is far bigger in the US than the UK. how often we try to go places in the first place , etc. Maybe many Brits polled have no lives or are too poor to have a life and go anywhere. (Kidding.)
waffles October 19, 2013 Author October 19, 2013 you failed to think of multiple reasons accounting for the large difference in stats. I know, but they don't matter because firstly Americans do drive more, end of story, and secondly it's a stereotype. Still: I'd want to know, at least, America's attractions vs Britain's attractions Domestic tourism spending in the US is about $2000 per person per year and in the UK is about £500 ($800) per person per year. It's not miles driven but it's close enough. how popular road trips are vs the countries No idea but probably not statistically significant. how popular it is to choose driving instead of flying between the countries Domestic air travel (the industry) is far bigger in the US than the UK. how often we try to go places in the first place Not taking a close look but time usage looks broadly similar between the US and the UK. etc. But none of it matters anyway because the kind of travel that you're describing (infrequent, long-distance) accounts for little of the total. Going back to the NTS, it tells us that domestic tourism accounts for 20% of distance travelled. And I said that the US is bigger; let's quantify that. The Department of Energy tells us that the average vehicle trip length in the US is 10 miles. The NTS gives 7 miles for the UK. Assuming the ratio remains similar for car trips specifically, this does still leave Americans with many more trips on average, regardless of length.
Yori October 19, 2013 October 19, 2013 Air travel referring to the system? Which came first, the new TSA or the system itself? ;) The big system is just for people who want to -come here- from other countries (I'm just making shit up.) And, I thought you were insinuating that us Americans are lazy asses that always want to drive, so I thought that the specific reasons we drive more mattered. My lip hurts.
Sands October 19, 2013 October 19, 2013 Didn't you say you wanted me to explain where you came off as being autistic? As in, quoting the part you said so I can point it out exactly? That's what your request sounded like, dunno what other way you'd want me to point at a text I'd be talking about. Again, the fact that you're taking everything so literally... Anyways, screaming troll never does anything. This is a community that still tries to be scientific and professional (or at least wants to be) despite people like you. Debates happen here, that's the entire point of being able to comment. There will be opinions and theories that clash and people will voice them. If you're not ready to talk, don't talk - and you better be ready to talk when you say something and others question your reasons to it. Overall, the fact that a person like you supports allowing people to be lazy and not make a search that takes few minutes of their lives when it would help not only the person searching to actually use their brain, but making these forums much more streamlined and neater as all the information about one thing would be in the same place... It doesn't really make anyone supporting this look too good. There is absolutely no way you can try to say that it's not lazy when you don't do a quick search. Well, you tried, by adding some analogies that didn't even work, but it doesn't mean it actually becomes a fact. You've quite poorly tried to defend your own view of this matter and it has only made me see the entire thing as something even worse than it was before. Honestly, this is the future if the problems of .info aren't taken care of soon. Also hah, you know, you saying that you don't want others to twist your words is kinda ironic... The THE SUBCONCIOUS ochinchin occultists frt.sys (except Roswell because he doesn't want to be a part of it)
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