Thoughts on "Just about anyone can make a tulpa?"

[Yori]

Some people say that just about anyone can make a tulpa, and some people say that strong mental facilities are required; that tulpas are an extraordinary thing and would take extraordinary, or advanced people. (a variant would be it'd take some people years/a decade, because they don't have strong required mental facilities, treat this the same).

 

Personally I think just about anyone can make a sentient tulpa in a reasonable amount of time (not taking years+). I don't think one should assume it's an extraordinary feat for minds, especially since it (it here meaning multiples, not tulpas in particular) happens on its own sometimes, or without the will of the person.

 

I don't think strong mental facilities are required, especially since a tulpa can be made by you simply talking to them for a bit (and things are probably going on in the backgrund, like you expecting certain kinds of responses or expecting certain things).

[Hamcha]

It's not that advanced minds are required. It's more like that not just about anyone is REALLY willing to put effort into doing it.

 

Also, people with ADHD and similar mental disorders will probably have quite some trouble creating one. It's not impossible for them to have one, but it can become a real hassle keeping up with it.

[KenzieK]

Hm. I've heard some people say that what we have aren't "real tulpas" or whatever because we didn't spend as much time on ours as the Tibetans, who meditate for years. However, I believe that anyone with the ability to think in the correct manner it takes to make a tulpa, can make one. I have a tulpa but certainly do not have any kind of advanced mind. Surely there are mental disorders that can play as a road block in the process, but that doesn't mean they can't have one, those people just have to work harder.

 

The only group of people I feel should not make a tulpa are people who are too young to understand the consequences that come with making one. It's because people's minds and opinions change the older you get, so there's a larger chance of the young person deciding later on that they don't want the tulpa anymore then have that "gap" in their mind. Or if they don't understand that not everyone will be accepting of their decision and want to tell people about it. But overall anyone CAN make a tulpa, but not everyone SHOULD

[waffles]

some people say that strong mental facilities are required; that tulpas are an extraordinary thing and would take extraordinary, or advanced people.

I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that, and rightly so; it's obvious from looking around that this is not the case (unless you think everyone around here is 'extraordinary').

 

I mostly agree with you, Yori. Although there are quite a few people who say that they "can't" make a tulpa, I think it's more that they have the wrong mindset, or are otherwise doing something wrong rather than being incapable. Given how common tulpas, or variants thereof, seem to be, it would appear that the mental facilities required to create one are more or less universal.

 

I guess exactly who you rule out as being unable to create a tulpa depends on your specific model of what a tulpa is, but I'd still bet on at least severe mental retardation making it impossible. Given a sliding scale from normal to vegetative, there has to be some point at which that is the case anyway.

[konrad13]

I think it takes a determined mind but not a truly extraordinary one.

[Guest Anonymous]

Hm. I've heard some people say that what we have aren't "real tulpas" or whatever because we didn't spend as much time on ours as the Tibetans, who meditate for years. However, I believe that anyone with the ability to think in the correct manner it takes to make a tulpa, can make one.

 

The Tibetan tulpa was more of a tool than a friend. If memory serves, the Tibetan tulpa was more of a deity-like creature and when not... given attention? it tended to become quite angry with the host.

 

As for anyone creating a tulpa -- the general population probably can. However, people may get wrapped up in lack of progress, doubt, dedication, and other factors and end up claiming that they can't make one. Though this is a bit of an infallible statement, mmm.

[Myak]

I think the average person can create a complete, functioning tulpa. Really, anyone who has had an imaginary friend, talked to themselves, longed for companionship, etc. can make one. And that's the general population. I don't think it takes particular intelligence at all. If anything, people who label themselves "more intelligent" might have more trouble because tulpae aren't really scientifically investigated yet. They might brush it off because of that, thinking anything that hasn't been completely proven is a hoax and unworthy of their time.

[Nobillis]

a variant would be it'd take some people years/a decade, because they don't have strong required mental facilities

 

Kevin says: "Yeah, that would be me. My first tulpa took 9 years. Her most recent tulpa, Nobillis, took only about a month to talk."

[Zadig Faceless]

It was me who brought this up in a discussion with Yori. My main point was that I'd think it would be harder, the more difficult it is for a person to engage in solely mental exercises. Many people are distracted, short attention span, their minds are, for lack of a better word, blunted. Intelligence isn't exactly what I meant.

I said incapable, but what I mean was that really, if you possess the sort of mind that will bore quickly or give up on a fully mental task every single time.... even if you possess the faculties required for that task, you are in effect incapable.

 

The reason I said it was extraordinary, is that if I had to guess, I'd say at least a slight majority of people would fall into the above category, and that that majority will grow over time as people become less engaged upstairs.

 

Not because they arent smart - I agree that probably wouldnt play into it - but because, to generalize, they arent going to take their face off a tv for long enough and if they DO, they will give up quickly.

 

This was speculation on my part; I do not have a tulpa, am only considering trying to form one and am just interested in the subject.

[Korzant]

There's no reason that anyone who doesn't suffer from really bad mental issues shouldn't be able to make a tulpa. I think people see how much of a hard thing it is to make one and they just don't bother or they think people are crazy for doing it.

 

It is kind of weird to me. People dedicate their lives to golf or artistry and it's just something that no one questions. Say you want to dedicate the same passion into a tulpa and then people get all in a fuss about it. Really anyone can make one. They just need the motivation to do so I think