Jake

The Mistgod Problem

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So I think its accepted among a lot of members, new and old, that Mistgods attention seeking antics under the guise of trying to help has gone too far. I came back here because a lot of older members told me this place had become a circlejerk around this Mistgod fellow and, judging from what Ive seen, I cant disagree. Mistgod is constantly hostile, has provably driven away people who are willing to comment and talk about tulpas (which adds to his delusion that he is the only one posting), doesnt listen to any criticism because he thinks anyone who disagrees with him just doesnt want to make the place better, has shown a blatant disregard for anyone elses experences if they dont match up to his own, warped view of what a tulpa is and how one is made and is just over all a cancer trying to consume the site in the name of control.

 

Not only this, but he has somehow gathered a group of diehard supporters who not only shut down anyone who disagrees with Mistgod, but have also sent emails to members asking them to stop replying to Mistgod because Mistgod is prefection.

 

He has shown massive disregard for the rules including ban evading, harassment, spamming, backseat moderation, disregarding the scientific mindset, causing drama and making "baseless claims that are only backed up by your own subjective evidence and nothing else.".

 

He constantly blog posts outside of his progress report and seems to be doing his best to drown out any and all arguments against him by volume of posts alone. He is by far the most active member which is the only reason I can assume he has managed to get this far, but we shouldnt accept a box of shit just to give the impression we have more stuff.

 

So the real question is this:

After all the rule breaking, blog posting, drama causing and shunning of members, why has he not been banned? Do the mods just not care? I know the owner, Pleeb, is planning on rejoining the site in the near future and he is also gunning for answers as to why this hasnt been delt with sooner.


We are all mad here

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Jake really? This was a bad idea for you to do this. I am totally baffled by the venomous hate you have for me. Just for the record. I don't hate you back and I don't want you banned in return. I just want you to leave me alone and stop all of this and focus on something positive. I am going to be working on making a tulpa and taking days away from regular posting in the future starting this evening.

 

I talk to the admin all the time and the mods. They know what I do and what I believe. I have talked to Pleeb personally more than once and so has Melian. He knows what I am doing on the forum and what I believe. I am not worried about Pleeb. I would be happy to talk to him, once again, when he comes back.

 

You are making more out of me than there is and blowing this all out of realistic proportion.

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I'm actually glad you are addressing the moderators; finally we might gain some attention on this kind of behavior. I'll repost my answer on what you, Jake, wrote in the thread: Can we improve this forum?

 

Jake Wrote:

We are all trying to do something about, you fucking shithead. Mistgod is just the only one posting his retarded fucking ideas in public like an attention seeking crack whore. There are more ways than the fucking Mistgod way and to suggest the answer is "Accept your tulpas are perfect and leave this place to become a dump" is fucking retarded.

 

 

 

"You know what this forum needs to improve?

 

Rules against personal attacks.

 

 

This is the first forum in which is see these kind of insults proliferating without the mods intervening. As soon as an aggressive post is being displayed, a post written only with the intent of disparaging and humiliate another member, the user in question should be temporarily banned. Do it twice, have them banned indefinitely. I’ve already seen productive discussion that went down the drain because people lost it. Now this thread has forgotten its original intent too. And for what? Nothing that could not be resolved with a clean intervention.

 

So I’m addressing the other users and the moderators as well: let’s implement this simple rule. It’s the only way people can talk without regressing into trolls. If these kinds of posts don’t get addressed and dealt with, this forum will become like the chat channel."


“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?”

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You are making more out of me than there is and blowing this all out of realistic proportion.

 

Of course you would say that


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Last time I tried to get involved in this, it ate up so much of my energy that I left the forums entirely for a while. I've been of the opinion that this kind of behavior, as you describe it, can destroy communities if allowed to happen unrestricted. His behavior has driven away certain members already, members that were contributing to the site and posted valuable things, and it's lowering any standards that might have existed by quite a bit, from what I've seen.

 

Overacceptance is bad, and it's clearly been happening here for too long. I'm not talking about his beliefs, seeing as those change weekly from what I've seen, but rather the style of posting, the attention seeking, trying to make the forums his stage for some weird kind of admiration. This is not constructive, besides some small positive points that I did see him make, but it's using the forums as a tool for your own personality issues to do with attention. Others do this with exposing their personal dramas, for example, which is something we don't need too much of either.

 

The same issues exist as I posted about almost half a year ago, sadly. There needs to be some kind of change in culture if you want the knowledgeable old guard (commonly referred to as elitist circlejerkers) to want to have anything to do with .info. My post linked above summarizes how I feel about it, for the most part. Other than that, I don't think there's much for me to say.


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You know the most hostile person I've seen since my return is you, Jake. Please, calm down. I haven't seen you post anything helpful, only ranting about something that's so far seems to only be a minor problem. Instead of spreading hate about a troll or attention seeker, just ignore them and report specific behavior to admins. That way they'll be dealt with without giving them the satisfaction of seeing they managed to so greatly annoy "some random idiot" online.


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Allow me to give my humble opinion, as I'm not too verbal outside of the lounge and games.

 

It doesn't really bother me, seeing as I stick mainly to the lounge and the forum games, but I realize it is bothering others. People are getting ticked off and leaving due to your antics, Mistgod, and it does need to come to a stop, or toned down to a point where it isn't a problem. As Yuki stated, overacceptance is bad. If you wanna spew your opinions and attention-seek, do it on Tumblr, the perfect place to do so.

 

I've stated this before, and I'll do it again. With all the attention-seeking, Mistgod is pretty much a Fede 2.0 (Who I've spoken to, and is VERY interesting). Fede had as still has ideals differing from the community. Both of them went pretty crazy with their postings (A lot of Fede's posts have been deleted over time). The main difference, however, is that Fede was banned. So I ask you Mistgod and Melain, do you plan to continue seeking attention to the end, where you'll inevitably be banned? I'll leave that up to you.


"Try to get a better understanding of things before making your judgement." -Khan, Metro 2033

 

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Well firstly it is mostly only a problem when an old user (or totally new one) appears out of nowhere and starts to get in a fight, because of a different opinion on the behaving here. I haven't seen you here much around since i joined, and now you're coming back to get angry at an old dude.

 

Secondly you act hostile yourself, mostly against mistgod, but I got why you do that and I respect that you atleast tried to be nice. But now you go batshit crazy about it. Why are you getting so mad about it? I get that you don't like a lot of his ideas but hell.....

 

Thirdly his "backseat moderation" is basically "please let's go back to topic, i don't want my drama to ruin another thread" which mostly occured in his own threads.

 

And last but not least he evaded his own fucking self ban, tough shit...

 

I get he is no saint, but with creating new drama from a different perspective you're not helping at all.

 

Beside that you surely have some good points, but honestly i am way to tired of this crap.


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Well firstly it is mostly only a problem when an old user (or totally new one) appears out of nowhere and starts to get in a fight, because of a different opinion on the behaving here. I haven't seen you here much around since i joined, and now you're coming back to get angry at an old dude.

 

Secondly you act hostile yourself, mostly against mistgod, but I got why you do that and I respect that you atleast tried to be nice. But now you go batshit crazy about it. Why are you getting so mad about it? I get that you don't like a lot of his ideas but hell.....

 

Thirdly his "backseat moderation" is basically "please let's go back to topic, i don't want my drama to ruin another thread" which mostly occured in his own threads.

 

And last but not least he evaded his own fucking self ban, tough shit...

 

I get he is no saint, but with creating new drama from a different perspective you're not helping at all.

 

Beside that you surely have some good points, but honestly i am way to tired of this crap.

 

I get so mad because of just how much things have become Mistgod.info. As someone who is directly responsable for the existence of this site, this isnt want I or any one else wanted for it. These are exactly the kind of people we were trying to get away from by creating this space.


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I get so mad because of just how much things have become Mistgod.info. As someone who is directly responsable for the existence of this site, this isnt want I or any one else wanted for it. These are exactly the kind of people we were trying to get away from by creating this space.

 

Good. Then start threads on your ideas, reflections, and techniques on tulpamancy. Write productive posts. Otherwise the newbies will go away too, and the forum will indeed die. Post something other than derogative comments and show the new community that you aren’t only a troll. Can you do it? I’m waiting.


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