My theory on God, humans, and tulpas

[Avatar186]

There are two was to fracture your psyche. You either create a personality you already do not identify with, an than you are influence by it and utilize technique to merge with it. Or you take a force within you, an you externalize it, essentially purposely fracturing yourself. In this case because you have personified a force and rejected it, you will be forced to reunite with it when you can no longer reject it.

This is the difference between creating a tulpa and uniting with it willfully.

OR.

Say taking a force you formerly identified with ( anger is a good cliché example) externalizing and personifying it, at some point, when you become angry, the externalized anger will most likely feed into you, the associated personality will also merge with you. Thus that which you considered you, that you rejected and gave personality to, is then reunited with you forcefully.

thus is two ways of creating a tulpa.

 

This wonderland you all speak of I have no knowledge of.

Sure, visualization of your tulpa is great. I assume the wonderland is an internalized imagining of your tulpa. This I assume reinforces your tulpa. External visualization is the same. Projection be it internal or external is the same.

Philosophy wise, the world is considered a projection.

Spatial existence is static, objects are dynamic. Yet objects are hallow, the dynamic aspect remains behind the object.

two truths that are both true. all objects empty, the spirit behind them. all reality is spirit, empty inside. neither is true for both are true at the same time. just depends which way you are seeing it at the time. that is the difference between unity and duality. Both are true at the same time, which one is true is relative to the perceiver. Life is neither short nor long. For Short and long are measurements of time. time is relative to the perceiver. thus life is relative. which is synonymous with saying life doesn't matter. It is life. Life is life, short or long isn't the issue.

Many here deal with tulpa it seems. What have you done for your tulpa lately?

Why is your tulpa not stronger than your ingrained personality?

Why?

Would you want it to be?

Why wouldn't you want it to be?

A tulpa is a spirit just as your personality is a spirit.

Why is your tulpa not more powerful than your current personality?

Do you not feed your tulpa?

Are you using your tulpa simply to feed your already current personality, or to overcome it?

These questions will indeed cause conflict between you and your tulpa.

Or will it only cause conflict because I have brought such questions to the table?

I find it interesting how there is a whole forum full of people creating spirits, yet ascetics kept creation of spirits a secret.

They are easily created. It takes very little effort. Yet WHO is the spirit that you have created, what purpose does that spirit have? are you going anywhere together? Is it simply for play and fun?

 

As for god. A mirror and its reflection is like a man and its tulpa.

This is as reality and creation.

A mirror and the reflection inside the mirror.

You will never be able to experience the object of reflection directly.

hahahah. shiva is the mirror, the reflection within the mirror is Shakti. static and dynamic. Thus is the conundrum of not only human experience but that of god. A mirror reflecting a mirror.

[JoyStar]

^.... That right there is probably one of the most philosophical/spiritual perspective things I've read in a while. O_o. I never thought about a person being like a mirror, and their tulpa being their reflection in the mirror.

 

And well, it's said that weare created in the image and likeness of God, so.....

[Enoch327]

^.... That right there is probably one of the most philosophical/spiritual perspective things I've read in a while. O_o. I never thought about a person being like a mirror, and their tulpa being their reflection in the mirror.

 

And well, it's said that weare created in the image and likeness of God, so.....

 

There is an old story about God. I have forgotten where I learned of it. Anyway, one day God looks into a mirror. The image is so beautiful and majestic that the mirror can not hold it. The mirror shatters and the pieces fall to earth. Each shard of the mirror contains a reversed, partial image of God. These shards become the basis for each of the world's religions. Each religion is right and each is wrong. And each is only a fraction of what God is. And of course, being shards, each religion is potentially dangerous.

[Aiko_M]

snip

If you are referring to the ego when you say "psyche", then no. There are many ways to "fracture" it. Many, many ways. Having a tulpa does tend to expose people to certain things they otherwise might not have encountered though.

I actually teach it. So does Hinduism, Buddhism, Zen, Mindfulness teachers and many other places.

 

Elements of self, personified, do not need to be "reunited", in fact this sounds just like buzzwords and faux philosophy.

Many people personify ugly elements of the self when they conflict with ego-adorned concepts of self. ie: A person with violent tendencies may label their anger problems and claim "that side of them comes out" so that they can ignore the fact they themselves, have a problem. This can be highly damaging, or beneficial, depending on how the person treats "it" or whether they benefit from CBT or DBT. There is no inevitable rejection or reuniting. It just is a feature of our brains that has not evolved yet. We like to categorise and pigeonhole things.

 

If you have issues and do not deal with them, you suffer them. Making such complex matters black and white does nobody any benefit. As they say, admitting you have a problem is the first step in dealing with it. Perhaps you were saying this, it was a little vague.

 

This is psychology and "tulpafying" one of these "selves" could be a sure fire way to really hurt yourself, mentally. In fact, that has a high chance of happening. If you involve spiritual/metaphysical practice it could be extremely dangerous to turn fears into a tulpa. Most people are not fully conscious of the baggage they carry around with them from childhood.

 

This is why metaphysical practitioners achieve and attain a state of gnosis during thoughtform creation. You don't want unknown or unplanned for elements slipping into your thoughtform or tulpa. It's in your head, you have to be careful. It is dangerous to have a malformed servitor or thoughtform running around.. putting that in your head? Toxic, to say the least.

 

Tulpa imposition/projection/experience is NOT always projection, particularly when you are dealing with metaphysics. (Remember which forum this is posted in)

Thoughtform/Servitor practice is common in almost all meta practice, from the four worlds to dreamwork. It is considered a basic skill along with sigils, basic ceremonial ritual and use of the athame.

 

Your headspace/realm/wonderland/whatever can also be experienced in lucid dreaming, the hypnagogic state or other states of consciousness. You can even experience it in gnosis or purely manufactured via the ganzfeld effect.

 

Philosophy wise, the world CAN be considered a projection, depending on what philosophy you prescribe to. Some say that we are merely the dream of a deity, others say that it is a holographic projection as everything is made of light. Helloooo quanta.

 

I don't know how you can say existence, or anything for that matter, is static. Recent discoveries at the quantum level has proven just that. Our world is much more active and interactive than we ever knew. The only thing rigid would be peoples opinions. A brick wall in the wind..

 

I am sorry if you find this confrontational, in a way it is meant to be. Your particular philosophy holds as much credibility and weight as Socrates', Rand's or even that of the Third Reich.

 

Philosophy is arguably the matter in which we interpret experience and make it palatable, comprehensible or sometimes poetic.

 

I agree that the tulpa a spirit like us. That is why I say that I merely share this meatsack with Riko. She is more in touch with the other side, I am more in touch with this side. Best of both worlds.

 

Riko is no reflection of me, she is a roommate and partner, living in the same meatsack as I for the time being.

 

I suggest that next time you post such things, you don't claim them as concrete and fact. Philosophies are anything but. Once we believe we know something, we do not experience benefit of learning more about the matter.

 

The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.

-Socrates

[Avatar186]

I do apologize. I tend to talk very authoritatively.

I tend to make statements.

I would advice people question everything I say, for anything I say may be fallacious.

____________

Yes, there are more than two ways to fragment the self.

Many many as you said.

_______________________

 

Many people personify ugly elements of themselves yes.

To a lesser degree this is the person who labels their anger as you said ( when that side of them comes out ) basically not taking responsibility for their own anger. That it is them. To a greater degree, I know people who are very damaged psychologically. They see their day to day persona as fake, an seek out situations in which they can ( be themselves).

Splintering the self is actually very easily done.

( On a side note, I was not saying to (Tulpafy) one of these fragments of self). What I meant was that these fragments are like loosely created tulpas in themselves.

( A man without a fragmented personality has no tulpa, a man with a fragmented personality has what could be considered malformed. Tulpas. The difference is many identify with these these fragments as still being part of themselves. They may reject them, suppress them, or compartmentalize them, yet they are still seen as part of who they are. Thus, not neccasarily a Tulpa, yet in essence the only difference is self identification.

__________

I did try to mention ( I believe ) two different ways of creating a tulpa.

One through ( projection ) or willfully creating a Tulpa you don't identify with at the start.

The second way is in taking something internal. Since emotions are powerful we will take an emotions, say ( love and pleasure ). Taking these and externalizing them, thus you no longer identify these feelings as being a part of you, then you create the form around them ( qualities and nuances ) you form the base personality from which the Tulpa grows from. Yet, That Tulpa is rooted to you through that which is inherently a part of you. Thus the Tulpa will grow everytime you feel say love and pleasure, for that love and pleasure is your tulpa not you anymore.

Taking something inherently part of you, no longer identifying with it, building your tulpa around it, results in a kind of forced Gnosis.

There are other ways to have gnosis, one does no need to create a tulpa this way, it was simply a way I was sharing.

____________________

 

A Tulpa being a projection.

Hm. Maybe projection was not the correct word.

A visualization is a projection.

As a technicality, the senses of my body are a projection of my mind ( literally biologically a projection and receiving.

Thus I can only experience the world through the senses.

Maybe a Tulpa is not always a projection.

Projected internally, externally, same thing.

From how I understand a Tulpa to be, it is basically a creation made out of myself. A personality created to the point of having its own sentience.

_________________

Static and dynamic.

Rest and movement.

There has always been much controversy over this.

Spatial existence itself can be seen as a static quality containing all things.

Or, it can be seen as something that is dynamic.

The yogis Samadhi can be seen as a static state, yet it is entered through a very dynamic process. In a sense both may simply be relative. ( a mirror can be seen as static, or dynamic because it is always in the process of reflecting. An imagine in the mirror can also be seen as static of dynamic as well. Balance and counter balance working as one. In the same way, a few years back I discovered a way of breathing. If this way of breathing is done while jogging, it lowers Co2 in the body significantly. Because of this, for the first 5 to 10 minutes the heart beat is increased, yet then it significantly lowers, the body becomes calm, an in this way you can run for an extremely extended period of time. You never become winded because co2 never overwhelms the system. Out of the 10 people I have taught this, only 1 utilized it, he was an active sports extremist.

____________________________________

 

I am not sure if I addressed all the proper points. ( the issue with big posts, I will try to shorten my posts in the future to allow greater comprehensive conversation.

___________________

 

Please PLEASE always be confrontational with me!!

Belief ends where knowing begins.

controversial conversation without making it personal, breeds knowledge and understanding between people.

So please! Be controversial.

An although belief may end where knowing begins, belief bypasses the logical brain, an in and of itself has many utilizations. Never discount belief for it is a powerful tool, yet it is not logic.

_____________

Good sir, I do appreciate the time you took to reply to my lengthy post.

Most people do not enjoy conversation with me.

My opinions are not agreeable most of the time.

All statements I make are questionable.

All questions are potential statements.

In honesty, in practice, Tulpas are new territory for me.

Yet I have mildy accidentally treaded down this path before.

I may be versed in many areas of ascetism. Yet Tulpas as Buddhism calls them, is fairly new to me. I am looking to go MUCH deeper into this.

MUCH much deeper.

So please continue to be raw and controversial. No offense will ever be taken. Do not attack me as a person, attack my ideas and opinions!

For it is my understanding i wish to refine, an thus in turn refine myself.

_____________________

As an ascetic. My first Tulpa, which is really 1 aspect of 10. AHAH! My Tulpa is one fragment of ten, like a women with 10 moods. The Mahavidya.

I start with Tara for she is the most nurturing.

Like i said, a path which i have touched upon before, yet one which i always restrained myself from, for i know that i did not know enough.

Feel free to impose upon me with all the knowledge you have in this territory. Do so with a ferocious attidude XD.

Thank you for your time good sir. It is not going to waste. I assure you of that statement.

---

I do apologize. I tend to talk very authoritatively.

I tend to make statements.

I would advice people question everything I say, for anything I say may be fallacious.

____________

Yes, there are more than two ways to fragment the self.

Many many as you said.

_______________________

 

Many people personify ugly elements of themselves yes.

To a lesser degree this is the person who labels their anger as you said ( when that side of them comes out ) basically not taking responsibility for their own anger. That it is them. To a greater degree, I know people who are very damaged psychologically. They see their day to day persona as fake, an seek out situations in which they can ( be themselves).

Splintering the self is actually very easily done.

( On a side note, I was not saying to (Tulpafy) one of these fragments of self). What I meant was that these fragments are like loosely created tulpas in themselves.

( A man without a fragmented personality has no tulpa, a man with a fragmented personality has what could be considered malformed. Tulpas. The difference is many identify with these these fragments as still being part of themselves. They may reject them, suppress them, or compartmentalize them, yet they are still seen as part of who they are. Thus, not neccasarily a Tulpa, yet in essence the only difference is self identification.

__________

I did try to mention ( I believe ) two different ways of creating a tulpa.

One through ( projection ) or willfully creating a Tulpa you don't identify with at the start.

The second way is in taking something internal. Since emotions are powerful we will take an emotions, say ( love and pleasure ). Taking these and externalizing them, thus you no longer identify these feelings as being a part of you, then you create the form around them ( qualities and nuances ) you form the base personality from which the Tulpa grows from. Yet, That Tulpa is rooted to you through that which is inherently a part of you. Thus the Tulpa will grow everytime you feel say love and pleasure, for that love and pleasure is your tulpa not you anymore.

Taking something inherently part of you, no longer identifying with it, building your tulpa around it, results in a kind of forced Gnosis.

There are other ways to have gnosis, one does no need to create a tulpa this way, it was simply a way I was sharing.

____________________

 

A Tulpa being a projection.

Hm. Maybe projection was not the correct word.

A visualization is a projection.

As a technicality, the senses of my body are a projection of my mind ( literally biologically a projection and receiving.

Thus I can only experience the world through the senses.

Maybe a Tulpa is not always a projection.

Projected internally, externally, same thing.

From how I understand a Tulpa to be, it is basically a creation made out of myself. A personality created to the point of having its own sentience.

_________________

Static and dynamic.

Rest and movement.

There has always been much controversy over this.

Spatial existence itself can be seen as a static quality containing all things.

Or, it can be seen as something that is dynamic.

The yogis Samadhi can be seen as a static state, yet it is entered through a very dynamic process. In a sense both may simply be relative. ( a mirror can be seen as static, or dynamic because it is always in the process of reflecting. An imagine in the mirror can also be seen as static of dynamic as well. Balance and counter balance working as one. In the same way, a few years back I discovered a way of breathing. If this way of breathing is done while jogging, it lowers Co2 in the body significantly. Because of this, for the first 5 to 10 minutes the heart beat is increased, yet then it significantly lowers, the body becomes calm, an in this way you can run for an extremely extended period of time. You never become winded because co2 never overwhelms the system. Out of the 10 people I have taught this, only 1 utilized it, he was an active sports extremist.

____________________________________

 

I am not sure if I addressed all the proper points. ( the issue with big posts, I will try to shorten my posts in the future to allow greater comprehensive conversation.

___________________

 

Please PLEASE always be confrontational with me!!

Belief ends where knowing begins.

controversial conversation without making it personal, breeds knowledge and understanding between people.

So please! Be controversial.

An although belief may end where knowing begins, belief bypasses the logical brain, an in and of itself has many utilizations. Never discount belief for it is a powerful tool, yet it is not logic.

_____________

Good sir, I do appreciate the time you took to reply to my lengthy post.

Most people do not enjoy conversation with me.

My opinions are not agreeable most of the time.

All statements I make are questionable.

All questions are potential statements.

In honesty, in practice, Tulpas are new territory for me.

Yet I have mildy accidentally treaded down this path before.

I may be versed in many areas of ascetism. Yet Tulpas as Buddhism calls them, is fairly new to me. I am looking to go MUCH deeper into this.

MUCH much deeper.

So please continue to be raw and controversial. No offense will ever be taken. Do not attack me as a person, attack my ideas and opinions!

For it is my understanding i wish to refine, an thus in turn refine myself.

_____________________

As an ascetic. My first Tulpa, which is really 1 aspect of 10. AHAH! My Tulpa is one fragment of ten, like a women with 10 moods. The Mahavidya.

I start with Tara for she is the most nurturing.

Like i said, a path which i have touched upon before, yet one which i always restrained myself from, for i know that i did not know enough.

Feel free to impose upon me with all the knowledge you have in this territory. Do so with a ferocious attidude XD.

Thank you for your time good sir. It is not going to waste. I assure you of that statement.

---

As a short side note. My experience could be considered to be mainly that as a Shakta or Yogi.

Versed only in direct Physiological or psychological control/manipulation/influence.

Tulpas are new to me.

Thus do not be easy with me.

Direct harshness is my preference.

Understanding through ( How and Why) is my preferred methods.

Math, Chemistry, Physiology, phycology. Bring it. I beg of your time good sir.

[VforVendetta]

I had a bit of a thought this morning when I was thinking of tulpas, and the nature of reality in general, seeing as tulpas can only be seen by us individually so they may be termed as "not real", but when you think about it, some might say that all that can be proven to exist is our own consciousness.

 

If you believe in God, as I do, it's likely you believe that our souls were formed by God at birth, then put into our body (and if you believe in reincarnation, transfers to a new body once that host one dies.). And that got me thinking. Tulpas as us humans view them, are sentient consciousnesses that are brought into being by thought and willpower.

 

If God created our souls from simply willing it... would that effectively make us tulpas too, from God's perspective?

 

This.

The logical conclusion is also this: The only way for a "good" thing to create something that is "evil" is for it to be a thoughtform, IE When you dream, and you do evil, you do not really do evil. You only dream it.

Lennon's "A dream you dream alone is just a dream. A dream you dream with everyone else is reality" also comes into play.

The idea is that it is all just an idea. And all ideas are just manifestations of possibilities. Thus, as God is only able to be infinite by being able to perceive all possibilities, reality is created, and is inherently "consciousness," another way of saying "creator" and "creation" simultaneously. The whole idea is an integration of micro-and-macrocosm. Seeing yourself in the light of your immediate surroundings as well as in the grand scheme of things.

---

Tulpae as they stand are the mind's way of creating another reality within the current reality. Just as your beliefs of your current reality affect it, your beliefs of the possible, idealogical reality affect it. The reality in your mind could be considered another reality, as it is all possibility manifestation. Therefore, when you allow the beliefs of that reality (the reality of ideas) to influence your actions, thoughts, intentions, and beliefs of this reality (the physical reality), you are able to provide yourself with another way of perceiving this reality, as well as another way in which to create and experience it. This state of "perceiving" and "creating" is also known as consciousness, which is also known as "state of being." So when you create a tulpa, you can use it to modify your current existence if you'd like too. But that's the whole underlying secret behind reality- your beliefs shape not only your reactions to reality, but your interpretations of reality itself, and therefore will eventually change the structure of your current iteration of reality depending upon how much "willpower," "energy," "thought," "consideration," etc... is given to them. The "shared consciousness" aspect of reality- in which all are co-experiencers and co-creators, is hinted at in Jungian psychology- in that the shared experience itself is a thoughtform; a combined thoughtform. Essentially a multidimensional, infinitely possible quantum tulpa if you wanted to look at it like that. But in this same instance, Taoist philosophy comes to mind, in that based upon the fact that a thing is infinite, it can never be fully realized, "The Tao which can be named is not the Tao," for by complete realization, one becomes "one" with the idea itself. And that is, essentially, the goal behind all philosophies- realization of the true nature of the self. Does that make sense? I tend to babble sometimes- let me know if you have any questions.

---

If you are referring to the ego when you say "psyche", then no. There are many ways to "fracture" it. Many, many ways. Having a tulpa does tend to expose people to certain things they otherwise might not have encountered though.

I actually teach it. So does Hinduism, Buddhism, Zen, Mindfulness teachers and many other places.

 

Elements of self, personified, do not need to be "reunited", in fact this sounds just like buzzwords and faux philosophy.

Many people personify ugly elements of the self when they conflict with ego-adorned concepts of self. ie: A person with violent tendencies may label their anger problems and claim "that side of them comes out" so that they can ignore the fact they themselves, have a problem. This can be highly damaging, or beneficial, depending on how the person treats "it" or whether they benefit from CBT or DBT. There is no inevitable rejection or reuniting. It just is a feature of our brains that has not evolved yet. We like to categorise and pigeonhole things.

 

If you have issues and do not deal with them, you suffer them. Making such complex matters black and white does nobody any benefit. As they say, admitting you have a problem is the first step in dealing with it. Perhaps you were saying this, it was a little vague.

 

This is psychology and "tulpafying" one of these "selves" could be a sure fire way to really hurt yourself, mentally. In fact, that has a high chance of happening. If you involve spiritual/metaphysical practice it could be extremely dangerous to turn fears into a tulpa. Most people are not fully conscious of the baggage they carry around with them from childhood.

 

This is why metaphysical practitioners achieve and attain a state of gnosis during thoughtform creation. You don't want unknown or unplanned for elements slipping into your thoughtform or tulpa. It's in your head, you have to be careful. It is dangerous to have a malformed servitor or thoughtform running around.. putting that in your head? Toxic, to say the least.

 

Tulpa imposition/projection/experience is NOT always projection, particularly when you are dealing with metaphysics. (Remember which forum this is posted in)

Thoughtform/Servitor practice is common in almost all meta practice, from the four worlds to dreamwork. It is considered a basic skill along with sigils, basic ceremonial ritual and use of the athame.

 

Your headspace/realm/wonderland/whatever can also be experienced in lucid dreaming, the hypnagogic state or other states of consciousness. You can even experience it in gnosis or purely manufactured via the ganzfeld effect.

 

Philosophy wise, the world CAN be considered a projection, depending on what philosophy you prescribe to. Some say that we are merely the dream of a deity, others say that it is a holographic projection as everything is made of light. Helloooo quanta.

 

I don't know how you can say existence, or anything for that matter, is static. Recent discoveries at the quantum level has proven just that. Our world is much more active and interactive than we ever knew. The only thing rigid would be peoples opinions. A brick wall in the wind..

 

I am sorry if you find this confrontational, in a way it is meant to be. Your particular philosophy holds as much credibility and weight as Socrates', Rand's or even that of the Third Reich.

 

Philosophy is arguably the matter in which we interpret experience and make it palatable, comprehensible or sometimes poetic.

 

I agree that the tulpa a spirit like us. That is why I say that I merely share this meatsack with Riko. She is more in touch with the other side, I am more in touch with this side. Best of both worlds.

 

Riko is no reflection of me, she is a roommate and partner, living in the same meatsack as I for the time being.

 

I suggest that next time you post such things, you don't claim them as concrete and fact. Philosophies are anything but. Once we believe we know something, we do not experience benefit of learning more about the matter.

 

The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.

-Socrates

 

The only thing unable to be changed is change.

The only impossibility is impossibility.

If you're familiar with anagrams, UROBOROS is an interesting one.

 

 

I would postulate the Socrates understood the true nature of "nothing."

What happens when you divide zero by zero?

[Enoch327]

 

This.

The logical conclusion is also this: The only way for a "good" thing to create something that is "evil" is for it to be a thoughtform, IE When you dream, and you do evil, you do not really do evil. You only dream it.

Lennon's "A dream you dream alone is just a dream. A dream you dream with everyone else is reality" also comes into play.

The idea is that it is all just an idea. And all ideas are just manifestations of possibilities. Thus, as God is only able to be infinite by being able to perceive all possibilities, reality is created, and is inherently "consciousness," another way of saying "creator" and "creation" simultaneously. The whole idea is an integration of micro-and-macrocosm. Seeing yourself in the light of your immediate surroundings as well as in the grand scheme of things.

---

Tulpae as they stand are the mind's way of creating another reality within the current reality. Just as your beliefs of your current reality affect it, your beliefs of the possible, idealogical reality affect it. The reality in your mind could be considered another reality, as it is all possibility manifestation. Therefore, when you allow the beliefs of that reality (the reality of ideas) to influence your actions, thoughts, intentions, and beliefs of this reality (the physical reality), you are able to provide yourself with another way of perceiving this reality, as well as another way in which to create and experience it. This state of "perceiving" and "creating" is also known as consciousness, which is also known as "state of being." So when you create a tulpa, you can use it to modify your current existence if you'd like too. But that's the whole underlying secret behind reality- your beliefs shape not only your reactions to reality, but your interpretations of reality itself, and therefore will eventually change the structure of your current iteration of reality depending upon how much "willpower," "energy," "thought," "consideration," etc... is given to them. The "shared consciousness" aspect of reality- in which all are co-experiencers and co-creators, is hinted at in Jungian psychology- in that the shared experience itself is a thoughtform; a combined thoughtform. Essentially a multidimensional, infinitely possible quantum tulpa if you wanted to look at it like that. But in this same instance, Taoist philosophy comes to mind, in that based upon the fact that a thing is infinite, it can never be fully realized, "The Tao which can be named is not the Tao," for by complete realization, one becomes "one" with the idea itself. And that is, essentially, the goal behind all philosophies- realization of the true nature of the self. Does that make sense? I tend to babble sometimes- let me know if you have any questions.

---

 

The only thing unable to be changed is change.

The only impossibility is impossibility.

If you're familiar with anagrams, UROBOROS is an interesting one.

 

 

I would postulate the Socrates understood the true nature of "nothing."

What happens when you divide zero by zero?

 

Wow. The last line really got me. A number divided by itself is one. We think were are zeros, but really we are all one. That was really profound.

[Drakaina]

What the OP said is the exact same reason my husband believes true artificial sentience could come into being. Like JoyStar I believe in God (specifically the god of Abraham). Let me see if I can remember my husband's phrasing because he worded it brilliantly.

 

We are made special by God to be like God. Given God created everything, the idea is if someone pours their whole being into creating something, that spark of life rubs off the creator on to the creation.

 

Now in the case of accidental tulpa and those that exist despite the host's wishes, I believe that comes back to the mind. Our brains are the most powerful computer on the planet. And smart computers can fake sentience. A computer named Eugine once passed the Turing Test but was only using algorithms to appear sentient (and not terribly well if you read some of the transcripts).

 

I believe this is what tulpa that haven't been developed and willed into existence by their hosts would be, if one follows a metaphysical hypothesis on what tulpa are. Complex mental algorithms simulating consciousness.

 

In the purely psychological sense of then, I don't believe they have souls of there own, but rather are just elaborate constructs our minds create. Then forcing is us getting our brains into the habit of maintaining the construct until it can process both the hosts thoughts and the tulpa's individually.