Ancient Buddhist practices

[Tirisilex]

The Buddhists of a forgotten age when practiced making Tulpas made it a point to recognize that Tulpas are a Illusion of your mind and not some real enitity. Whats your take on this?

[Sock]

I was under the impression that this was common knowledge, and nothing revolutionary.

 

The context here is a bit different, though. My understanding is that in Bhuddism, the "Tulpa" was meant to beat in the idea that the entirety of the world was an illusion. Though I may not be exactly right, they did this by not only making the thinking bits, but imposing them on their reality at the same time. So yes, the "tulpa" wasn't an end in itself, but a part of a larger doctrine.

 

Of course, while the site is named after this practice, the Buddhists were not the only one to encounter such a phenomenon, the Greeks and Romans described similar things as well. I'm of the mind that the "tulpa" is a manifestation of a greater phenomenon.

 

As for whether they are an illusion or not, I personally think at this point, it is simply pseudo-intellectual posturing. Whether one say they are an illusion, or they are real, they will continue to do the same things, and at times, pose the same questions. It's repetative.

[TheShadowKnight134]

Couldn't a tulpa be both? An entity that exists because of the belief in it. That's why only the creator can see them because it's the creator's belief that makes it an entity but to others it would be an illusion of the mind.

 

I could mention Christianity by this where they believe in an entity but to others it is viewed as an illusion.

 

Well that's my two strawpennies on the matter.

[J.Iscariot]

Couldn't a tulpa be both? An entity that exists because of the belief in it. That's why only the creator can see them because it's the creator's belief that makes it an entity but to others it would be an illusion of the mind.

 

I could mention Christianity by this where they believe in an entity but to others it is viewed as an illusion.

 

Well that's my two strawpennies on the matter.

 

No. Tulpas don't 'need' belief, that's what people actually think, what tulpas need is attention more than anything, but even if you don't believe in them and are just forcing because why not, tulpas will keep living in your mind, as long as the mind pays attention to their concept. A tulpa only exists in your own perception so to others it's merely a concept that would be nice to have in all cases. I tried it for a long while, too, not believing in tulpamancy, she's still there. I'm someone who doesn't believe in plurality and has a lot of doubt in tulpamancy, we're still here, though.

 

Christians don't get to talk to Jesus and get some tip top advice.

[TheShadowKnight134]

I prefer Thor Odin freya and Tyr lol

[J.Iscariot]

I'd rather talk with Judas on how he betrayed the Christ if it did occur at any point in time

 

But seriously, I'd advise everyone to forget about tibetan buddhism tulpas because those go into metaphysical grounds and diddly doo we all know how appreciated meta is around here.

[TheShadowKnight134]

I don't even know what metaphysical even means

[Sock]

Honestly, I don't think most people know what "metaphysical" mean here, I know I don't, heh.

 

Going by how it's used, it can range from Mysticism, New Age beliefs/practice, Religion, to believing that intangible things that are not vetted by a guy in a lab coat exist.

[Guest Anonymous]

To the modern tulpamancer, at least in the internet tulpamancy crowd, it is almost completely irrelevant what the ancient Tibetans practiced or believed.

[Vos]

I've moved this thread from Questions and Answers to General Discussion.