Why do some tulpas like sex?

[solarchariot]

If I wanted to create a tulpa for a plaything in my own mind, there isn't anything anyone could really do about it actually.  So, tulpas could be play things or sex slaves or servants or whatever.  I think it should be left up to the creator of a tulpa as to what they believe about what a tulpa actually is.  Not everyone believes they are real persons.

 

I am not sure that is a good argument for advocating a thing. "no one can do anything about it so..." do what you want? Accepting that some negative things exist does not mean we stop advocating for human decency, kindness, simple compassion... Not just promoting it as a way of treating others, but genuinely creating it as a core value. That starts with self, inside of self, and how we treat ourselves and our dream characters is an indication of how we will treat others. That is not an absolute, but something worthy to cultivate.

[Mistgod]

I am advocating nothing except freedom to believe what a person wants to believe and to hold the values they want to hold for the products of their own imagination. You do your head, I will do mine. In other words believe whatever bullshit you want to believe, but don't expect me to believe it. I don't create my opinions concerning my imagination based on how my private thoughts will insult or offend other people in the real world.

 

That's why I find it incredibly full of cringe that people have a problem with things like waifus.

 

I was considering making a harem of tulpa slave women. I was pondering today how awesome that would be. I see nothing unethical at all or immoral in creating a harem of tulpa slave wives.

 

EDIT: Please note I am not seeking, nor do I need, anyone's evaluation of my moral character based upon my imagination and my beliefs concerning my imagination. It's totally irrelevant to anything that really matters to me. Don't waste your keystrokes on lecturing me about morals and ethics concerning thoughtforms. Save that for the gullible newbies.

[Guest]

Please, drama and off topic reiteration of generally unaccepted views go here. Let's keep these type threads clear of the carnage.

 

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You're always free to ignore me, I'm not a Mod, but my response is at the link provided.

[DreamDoll]

Making a harem of slave women is under the topic of tulpa sex. You're right, you are not a moderator.

[Guest Reilyn-Alley]

You are just as free to promote your views in public forum as anyone else is to counter promote them, keep that in mind.

 

I don't have to be talking directly to someone and nobody has to take it as a personal attack. Let the readers reach their own conclusions. Taking a conversational disagreement as a personal challenge or direct attack will only cause someone grief and devolve an open discussion into pointless argument and make hurt feelings.

 

'Course, going into a community where you know people tend to hold a majority view that headmates are people too, and deserve the dignity and respect any human being does, and making statements like you will makes a harem of tulpas if you want because it's your mind and your rules and everyone else can butt out, that's just asking for trouble. Saying things like you know it's not popular or don't bother wasting keystrokes is pointless cuz, you know, you started it.

 

If you want people in a community like this to not judge or be hostile towards you, try to not remind us constantly how much you don't think headmates are real and deserve fair treatment and implying heavily you can abuse them however you like. Oh, and try not to take this as some kinda personal attack because I've snapped a few times over the months at people for the same sort of thing.

 

I'm a pretty big advocate for those who have none and have no recourse or way to escape what's happening to them, especially because they are viewed as subhuman or somehow not worth defending. If someone wants to "kill off" or abuse their headmates against their will, you do you but don't brag about it and expect everyone to just meekly back down because you said don't bother challenging it. I'll challenge whatever I feel like, loudly and boldly, in a public forum.

 

Even me not using green here is a compromise because some people said they had a hard time taking me seriously when I did, despite the only reason I do it is because I just really love green. ;P

 

Anyway, no hard feelings, k? I'm just too blunt and honest for my own good. I'm not trying to discourage you from being on here and interacting.. This IS interacting. Good training too, for when you bump into people, who for some reason, are bitterly against you.

[Luminesce]

If I wanted to create a tulpa for a plaything in my own mind, there isn't anything anyone could really do about it actually.  So, tulpas could be play things or sex slaves or servants or whatever.  I think it should be left up to the creator of a tulpa as to what they believe about what a tulpa actually is.  Not everyone believes they are real persons.

 

Then they shouldn't be asking for opinions in a public forum. You're basically preaching anti-tulpa-rights.

 

Above all, the difference in an imaginary friend and a tulpa is that an imaginary friend isn't "sentient" - they don't think and respond on their own, they don't retain memories, don't think new thoughts. An imaginary friend is a puppet. Wanting to do these things to not an imaginary puppet, but a "thinking, living" person in your mind is unhealthy and will negatively impact your mindset towards other humans eventually. It's like torturing small animals. It doesn't hurt anyone, no, but it's considered sick for a reason as it both reflects and shapes your character as a person.

 

If you don't want to talk about "imaginary friends" as if they're actually people with their own thoughts and experiences, you shouldn't be here. That's not opinion, it's just being a jerk.

 

 

Also, I just realized 'tis is a rearrangement of it's...

[Mistgod]

Back on topic please.

 

The topic of the thread is "Why do tulpas like sex?"

 

I was writing that I have considered making a harem of tulpa sex slave wives. That is true. I actually have. I was thinking about that today as I walked around. I would love to possess a bunch of android women, designed to look like a harem of young, beautiful women. I would own them and I wouldn't have to worry about things like their desires and things like that and their happiness. But the technology for such a thing is not available yet. I was thinking about sex dolls and how they are getting really realistic looking, but yet they are still lifeless dolls and very uninteresting. I would prefer androids or something that looks and feels and seems like the real thing but is, in fact, a machine that I own.

 

Tulpas would be a close second to something like having a harem of android women. It would be second best though because of course they are only in my head.

 

I am not meaning to cause trouble. I am not writing these things to deliberately upset people. I have always written like this. It is what I believe and what I feel.

 

I will take it even farther. I think there are many men who, if they could, would purchase a harem of lovely android women as sex slaves. There are also a lot of men who probably wouldn't mind the illusion or hallucination of a harem of nubile, beautiful sex slave women.

 

I think you could design these imaginary women to be nymphomaniacs relatively easily. I gave Melian certain personality traits. I see no reason why I couldn't give a group of tulpas certain personality traits either. I think tulpas like sex because their creators want them to like sex. It's in the OP if your read it again (Melian and I wrote it).

[Luminesce]

Because tulpas think and retain experiences like a real person. The concept you're looking for is a non-sentient imaginary friend or roleplay character.

 

You're going to get yourself muted or banned if you can't have some decency, and if you refuse to treat tulpas like people then this, by the very core of what the site strives to do and be, is not the place for you.

[Guest Reilyn-Alley]

I said my opinion on it before anyway. A big part of sex is mental and emotional, two things that tulpas can experience quite well. In addition, it can be a fun and intimate bonding activity between headmates, depending on level of trust and ability to synthesize feelings in wonderland/headspace.

 

Imo, anyone who thinks sex with tulpas = some cringy, looser thing that isn't healthy and the person just needs to go find a "real partner" doesn't understand nor agree with the deeply-fulfilling personal bond that headmates can share. There's also no risk of anything that comes with the physical including STDs, being ashamed of one's body or performance, being maliciously gossiped about (unless said headmate is a bit of a jerk or blabbermouth), and it doesn't even matter if a host is involved or multiple headmates or whatever.

[Mistgod]

Reilyn-Alley: I said my opinion on it before anyway. A big part of sex is mental and emotional, two things that tulpas can experience quite well. In addition, it can be a fun and intimate bonding activity between headmates, depending on level of trust and ability to synthesize feelings in wonderland/headspace.

 

Imo, anyone who thinks sex with tulpas = some cringy, looser thing that isn't healthy and the person just needs to go find a "real partner" doesn't understand nor agree with the deeply-fulfilling personal bond that headmates can share. There's also no risk of anything that comes with the physical including STDs, being ashamed of one's body or performance, being maliciously gossiped about (unless said headmate is a bit of a jerk or blabbermouth), and it doesn't even matter if a host is involved or multiple headmates or whatever.

 

Thank you.  I do think actually having sex with your tulpa, as in imposing a hallucination and having sex with it or something, is a bit full of cringe.  But, I don't mind some kinds of cringe.  Hey whatever people want to do behind closed doors is okay with me.  Melian sometimes has sex in her dreamscape with other dream characters.  It's a private thing though but I enjoy experiencing what she is experiencing.  I still prefer real world sex.  Melian's sexuality was discussed in the first post however, so I don't think I should repeat myself that much.  

 

You're going to get yourself muted or banned if you can't have some decency, and if you refuse to treat tulpas like people then this, by the very core of what the site strives to do and be, is not the place for you.

 

I see nothing in the rules that I have to believe in tulpa ethics concerning sexuality or how I treat them in my own head. I see nothing in the rules that I cannot discuss tulpas and thoughtforms being figments.   I am under no obligation, as far as I know, to believe that tulpas or thougthforms in my own head, or in general, are real and have universal rights.  If I am muted, that is up to the admin not you.  But that would be muting me for my own opinions about my own imagination and how I think thougthforms work.