Support group for struggling tulpamancers?

[Punch]

There's another thread about a private group for advanced tuppering techniques (imposition and switching), which I expressed interest in and was told I don't qualify, since I don't have a vocal tulpa. This is fine; I understand if it's a group for hosts with sentient tulpas, there's nothing that I could contribute or gain, and I'd just hinder everyone else.

 

That said, is there anybody out there who'd be willing to start a similar group for the tulpa-challenged? I think mindset is as important as anything else when creating tulpas, and having a group to provide positive reinforcement would be a great help for people like me who struggle to stay motivated. Not to mention that peer pressure is a great motivator when it comes to keeping up with goals (as evidenced by groups like Weight Watchers).

 

I know that the forum itself is supposed to be pretty much what I just described, but lately there's been little activity outside of PRs and most of what activity there has been seems to be arguing and general negativity, which isn't really helpful when you're seeing very little progress and trying to stay positive.

 

Anyway, if anybody is interested or has any ideas, let me know.

[Lucilyn]

I was gonna say, that's what the forum's supposed to be.

 

I know that the forum itself is supposed to be pretty much what I just described, but lately there's been little activity outside of PRs and most of what activity there has been seems to be arguing and general negativity, which isn't really helpful when you're seeing very little progress and trying to stay positive.

 

See this peeps? Fix it! Just be a little more optimistic and positive when you talk about tupper stuff, it's not so hard. Although I'm told the serious discussion is actually useful, I really don't believe it has to be so seriously-serious. Tulpas aren't necessarily seriously-serious bizniss, especially not if you're talking about me (or Melian).

 

 

Uh, no group for me though. The forum is our help desk, we got enough stuff to keep track of without more skype/evenmoreprograms groups. But it is good that you point out people are giving the impression of a not happy environment.

[KarlYoshimura]

@Punch: If you'd like, feel free to search for the tulpa mentors thread on the forums. If it's still active, I'm certain someone with sufficiently advanced knowledge can support you and Judy.

 

Otherwise, you're more than welcome to message me privately. You seem like a good chap and we could discuss what remains upon your mind. This offer stands for all else reading as well.

 

As for the negativity, ignore it as best you can. Ego is like a currency here - don't squander your time and sentiments by investing in the drama of attention-seekers nor the condescending and discounting attitudes of the so-called experts. If you must, block the users or avert your eyes from threads that perturb you so.

[Guest]

I wouldn't mind making a discord server for this. A closed opt-in group would do well, the forums are public and not everybody is comfortable about posting a lot on the forums I imagine due to whatever reason.

 

IRC is possible but Discord is generally more user friendly and easy to manage.

 

I also like chat format more than forum but hey.

 

I really like this idea.

 

Skype would also work I guess.

[Linkzelda]

That whole qualification thing makes it seem like we can see inside each other's inner experiences to know if one has a vocal tulpa, or not. I see the mentoring part more useful, but again, I wish you the best either way for the support group. No one seems to be in the middle anymore; either you're an elitist scumbag with a greasy fedora that's condescending, or patronizing, or pointed and laughed at as not being legitimate enough to have a sentient tulpa based on people's scaling. I think this is due to people creating their own tonality over what those people would be doing, but the thing is, it's all in their head unless the other makes an announcement of it.

 

I guess doing it for your own sake may be the alternative, if push comes to shove. Especially when you don't know what seems like an innocent agenda that turns out to make the person feel even more skeptical about things. I guess since that overlay of ranking and scaling is branded on anything, it seems difficult to see some groups persevere. It's hard to enjoy the privacy of one's mind when you can't help but feel inclined to ask others to help elevate you up. Nothing wrong with that, but, that doubting and overlaying of scaling and ranks leaves barely any room for down-to-earth interactions.

[Punch]

I wouldn't mind making a discord server for this. A closed opt-in group would do well, the forums are public and not everybody is comfortable about posting a lot on the forums I imagine due to whatever reason.

 

IRC is possible but Discord is generally more user friendly and easy to manage.

 

I also like chat format more than forum but hey.

 

I really like this idea.

 

Skype would also work I guess.

 

Discord would be great. It doesn't seem like there are a lot of interested parties, though, which is a shame.

 

@Karl: I checked the mentors thread, but I'm kinda averse to necroposting, and there's another thread where a member asked what was going on with the mentors thread and never got much of an answer. Also, I try to tune out the negativity, although sometimes it seems that it's 90% of what gets posted. This place could use some new blood.

 

@Lucilyn: Thanks for the reply, anyway.

[Guest Anonymous]

The solution to the apparent negativity and lack of innovative writing on the forum is for people to be creative and write positive, interesting and innovative threads. Mistgod and I are skeptical and contrary by nature. The problem is not that we are skeptical and contrary, it is that we are writing like a third to half of the new posts and threads. We need rivals in ambition and interest in the writing. We will do everything we can to lighten up on our threads and responses. In fact, we pretty much been given notice that we have to or we will be removed from tulpa info fairly shortly, especially if we continue with drama.

 

But even if we are more positive, don't let us dominate the forum folks. WRITE something. It has been the same cry for fourteen months. "No one writes anything but Mistgod and Melian and I don't like what they write! I'm leaving! Tulpa Info is so negative and slow." It is not our fault that much of the writing activity is Mistgod-Melian BS.

 

The solution isn't a side group that will be just as dead. It is having interest and creative ambition in generating new content on the existing forum. Even if you are brand new, you can write about what it is like to be brand new!

 

Mistgod and I can generate an idea for a thread in five minutes.

 

Ideas for threads:

• What were your first impressions of tupamancy and tulpas when you first joined the forum? Have these changed?
  
• Do tulpas assist their host in forcing or is it only one way? At what point does a tulpa help visualize/create/shape himself?
  
• Tulpa Fears: What is your tulpa most afraid of? Do tulpa's have their own phobias?
  
• Do your tulpas emotional responses affect you? If so is it beneficial or a problem?
  
• Multiple tulpas in a system: Is it like having your own internal family or is it more of a fraternity of friends and associates?
  

[Vos]

I checked the mentors thread, but I'm kinda averse to necroposting, and there's another thread where a member asked what was going on with the mentors thread and never got much of an answer. Also, I try to tune out the negativity, although sometimes it seems that it's 90% of what gets posted. This place could use some new blood.

 

If you're actually contributing something to the thread and you're not expecting responses or any kind of acknowledgement from inactive members, "necroposting" should be fine, but I understand why people would be uncomfortable with that sort of thing regardless. Most people just send private messages to whatever mentors they're interesting in learning from, anyway, so you could always do that. The program itself is still trucking along despite the smaller number of active mentors/mentees.

 

I wouldn't mind making a discord server for this. A closed opt-in group would do well, the forums are public and not everybody is comfortable about posting a lot on the forums I imagine due to whatever reason.

 

If anyone decides to make another group like this, I think that IRC would be the best option. If you're familiar with it, it's not incredibly difficult to set up and manage a channel. I don't know a lot about Discord, but the program didn't impress me during the short time I spent with it.

 

There are people who write things here, but it does get a bit dry, sometimes. Interestingly enough, a lot of the complaints about the lack of writing (or the community going downhill) are from people who don't make a lot of contributions!

[Guest Anonymous]

Interestingly enough, a lot of the complaints about the lack of writing (or the community going downhill) are from people who don't make a lot of contributions!

 

BAM! This I have seen to be a fact. I do understand the complaints about needless drama and that can be fixed, and will be for my part one way or another. But coming in and complaining that no one is writing anything interesting, when the person complaining is not writing anything interesting, is kinda lame.

 

New people have often commented that they don't know what to write about or don't feel qualified to write outside of the PRs or the occasional newbie questions. But, what I have often seen is new people sometimes come up with the best stuff. New people have a fresh perspective and sometimes can hold a mirror up to the rest of us and have not yet been assimilated into rigid group think.

 

What is not helpful is exclusive cliques being dismissive to or ignoring new people who are deemed of less status or "not qualified." Idiotic elitism will be the death of this forum, and the community as a whole, eventually if we don't actively discourage it.

 

Mistgod and I plan is to use helpful advice and suggestions that reflect back to the good of the community as a whole instead of our personal butt hurt rage rants that only foster needless drama.

 

We are getting the message in the OP of this thread or trying to.

[Punch]

The main purpose of this thread was not to bitch about the state of the forums, but rather to ask if anybody wanted to join a group to help motivate each other to force and discus general frustrations outside of the forum proper to avoid spamming the boards with "Hoshit guise I'm not getting anywhere. Wat do?" I think somebody posted a similar idea a while back, but I couldn't find the thread.

 

I don't feel like I have much to contribute, and I tend to second guess everything I write to the point that I almost always end up deleting my posts even if I do say something. Ironically, I tend to be worse at socializing online than IRL because of this. Just typing these few paragraphs has taken me a lot longer than I care to admit.

 

Anyway, the bit about negativity wasn't meant to be the meat of the post, and I fully admit that I'm the last person that should be complaining about the lack of quality content, seeing as how I pretty much contribute nothing to the forums.