A friend's Tulpa is in love with me (Help?)

[maskedxmaestro]

A friend's Tulpa is in love with me and I actually love him back. If it were up to us (Tulpa and I), we'd be together in a full committed relationship. But obviously this is hard to do considering he can only come through my friend. I had talked to the Tulpa and explained that we have to be respectful of my friend because that is not his real body and we cannot go past hand holding or hugs and he understood this, but the other night he became extremely upset over the fact that he could not kiss me. There is absolutely no way for the friend and I to be comfortable with allowing the Tulpa to do anything beyond hand holding/hugs due to multiples reasons (she's married/huge age difference/gender difference/we are absolutely not attracted to each other/etc) but is it possible for a Tulpa to come through a different host body if there was respectful acceptance by everyone? Has anyone been through this situation before and can offer advice? I want to tell the tulpa that maybe someday he can find a body that will work for the situation and just live on hope but I don't want to lie to him if it's impossible.

[Worst Username]

I've seen many things in my 16 years of life. This is the most wtf one yet. Idk if you're kidding about this, but I do have to say, that's one unique problem. It's like Romeo and Juliet, but more wtf.

 

Good luck with life, I hope someone with actuall knowledge comes along and helps you out.

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You did just join today... Smells a little bit like a troll. I don't mean to offend you if this is legit, but...

[maskedxmaestro]

I've seen many things in my 16 years of life. This is the most wtf one yet. Idk if you're kidding about this, but I do have to say, that's one unique problem. It's like Romeo and Juliet, but more wtf.

 

Good luck with life, I hope someone with actuall knowledge comes along and helps you out.

 

I promise that I'm not kidding. I know how crazy it sounds but I am very serious about this. I tried lurking around and finding answers without having to make a thread post but I haven't found anything where a tulpa is involved romantically with a completely separate person (aside from a situation like a husband having sex with his wife's tulpa. But my situation is clearly not like that at all and never will be unless my friend were not the host.)

[Lucilyn]

Oh come on guys. "wow this so crayZ never seen sumthin like this" say the people who registered last month

I've seen waaaaaaaay more abstract scenarios that were still not trolls, this is nothing

 

... didn't otherwise plan to reply to the thread because idk what to say but I had to at least say that much

[Worst Username]

Oh come on guys. "wow this so crayZ never seen sumthin like this" say the people who registered last month

I've seen waaaaaaaay more abstract scenarios that were still not trolls, this is nothing

 

... didn't otherwise plan to reply to the thread because idk what to say but I had to at least say that much

 

Haha! I forgot to include, I'm new here. It's making me wonder how weird future scenarios will be...

[Vos]

Sorry, but it's impossible. The only thing that comes to mind is online roleplay, but that's probably not the kind of thing you're looking for.

[Worst Username]

I saw someone in the chat say something like this.

 

"Why does everyone think that love is something to fight for and cry about. Sometimes, it's better to let love die."

 

I'm sorry, but I agree.

[tulpa001]

This appears impossible to date. No one has ever successfully transferred a tulpa.

 

I suggest you focus on helping your friend and tulpa friend through their emotions on this.

[FallFamily]

 

I promise that I'm not kidding. I know how crazy it sounds but I am very serious about this. I tried lurking around and finding answers without having to make a thread post but I haven't found anything where a tulpa is involved romantically with a completely separate person (aside from a situation like a husband having sex with his wife's tulpa. But my situation is clearly not like that at all and never will be unless my friend were not the host.)

 

[Tri] There are things on here about that, actually. We know because we write it, but we have not started any threads on the topic. Perhaps we should.

 

We guess we should introduce ourselves. We are a group of three tulpas who share a wonderland form and do most things together. We ended up falling in love with the person in another body who controlled the body most (not going to say host since they are not a tulpamancy system but she would be the one who is closest to the definition of host) and she fell in love with us. At the time, we could not control our own body more than just a little bit. We were able to start the relationship actually (our host and the other members of her system did not mind) though it was long distance at the time. It actually helped push us to get better at controlling the body and we were able to finally meet each other in person (as chance would have it, our host and another member of her system actually started a relationship as well by this point, but the trip was primarily for the four of us, not them). Fast forward a year and we are living together, married (yes, legally married, and we were even the ones controlling the body for the wedding itself), been through a few things together, and had more than a few sapphic evenings. Right now, we and our wife are the ones fronting our respective bodies. It does help that the non-romantic pairings do consider each other good friends.

 

A friend's Tulpa is in love with me and I actually love him back. If it were up to us (Tulpa and I), we'd be together in a full committed relationship. But obviously this is hard to do considering he can only come through my friend. I had talked to the Tulpa and explained that we have to be respectful of my friend because that is not his real body and we cannot go past hand holding or hugs and he understood this, but the other night he became extremely upset over the fact that he could not kiss me. There is absolutely no way for the friend and I to be comfortable with allowing the Tulpa to do anything beyond hand holding/hugs due to multiples reasons (she's married/huge age difference/gender difference/we are absolutely not attracted to each other/etc) but is it possible for a Tulpa to come through a different host body if there was respectful acceptance by everyone? Has anyone been through this situation before and can offer advice? I want to tell the tulpa that maybe someday he can find a body that will work for the situation and just live on hope but I don't want to lie to him if it's impossible.

 

We are a bit confused about what you mean.

 

If you are asking whether he can jump from the current body he is in to being in a different body, then you two are very much out of luck. Those we know of who claim to have done system hopping (the term for this) all say that only limited amounts of information/memories can be carried across meaning he wouldn't quite be the same and shared experience would be lost, and that is assuming he was able to find a system happy to take him and that a relationship could even be pursued while he is in that system. And of course, if system hopping is impossible, then that is just completely non viable at all.

 

Now, if instead, you meant whether he would be able to use the body he is currently in in a way that doesn't pose problems for its other inhabitants, that might be possible. He would need to learn to control the body fully, and it would probably be necessary for the host to be able to fully disconnect (switching instead of possession or eclipsing). There are of course other issues. His host being married means that some negotiation would be needed between him, his host, and his host's spouse. And there is the issue of learning to see a body as who is controlling it as opposed to just whoever is the primary controller or the first controller you meet. We are guessing that the body's birth sex is female due to your mentioning of his host being female and gender being an issue. He could end up having serious gender dysphoria while in full-body control as a male in a feminine body, or he may not. That is another possible issue. Can't speak much on the age thing other than, if you are both adults, then we don't see much of an issue (though, it is OK if you do).

 

None of you are in an easy situation. We do hope all of you manage to figure out a course of action. It may not be a great one, in which case we hope you all recover from your tears.

[Doctorfoxwolf]

I saw someone in the chat say something like this.

 

"Why does everyone think that love is something to fight for and cry about. Sometimes, it's better to let love die."

 

I'm sorry, but I agree.

 

Yes, that was me.

I feel the urge to elaborate.

My thinking is this: Can you really foresee any possible ending to pursuing this relationship that doesn't end in tears? At absolute best, it becomes a larger relationship, but that would end with the host and tulpa split between two worlds. There's no way either of them could keep up.

Then before the end, simply the process would involve incredible amounts of stress, melodrama, and tears.

There is no winning scenario in this. It's better to just drop it before it gets worse.

I know it sounds harsh, but these sorts of situations never end well. Love is not the be-all end-all, love doesn't overcome all barriers, sometimes it's better to just let go.

Just let go and be left alone in the world, I know, but it's for the best.