Dissociation discussion

[tulpa001]

It just occurred to me.

 

You know how sometimes you are doing something then your mind wanders then you suddenly realise that you are somewhere else and time has passed? That's dissociation. Or a form of it. My host used to get it all the time.

 

Now, today, I was in the shower, and it happened to me. How the heck can that happen to a tulpa, *While* they are in the body? The body was like just on autopilot, my host was watching me, I was daydreaming, suddenly, I'm further along.

 

It seems like this happens more to me than to my host these days. You'd think the one controlling the body would be less likely to dissociate.

 

Soooo... What does dissociation mean to you, and how has it happened to you?

[Doctorfoxwolf]

You know how sometimes you are doing something then your mind wanders then you suddenly realise that you are somewhere else and time has passed? 

 

No, I really don't.

I never did anything on autopilot.

The closest I've ever come to it is when Meti temporarily takes control of something in order to do something, like earlier today when this happened:

 

You need to stop watching these videos.

I know. I just don't wanna.

They're not even amusing! You don't find them amusing!

Hmm, We are number one but the word one triggers duplication and makes the video slow down + get louder? Sounds interesting.

WE ARE NOT DOING THIS!

YES WE ARE!

NO! IT'S TIME TO STOP!

 

 

 

It is at this point that Meti seized control of my hand when I wasn't paying attention and exited the tab.

It was for the best.

[Luminesce]

Now, today, I was in the shower, and it happened to me. How the heck can that happen to a tulpa, *While* they are in the body? The body was like just on autopilot, my host was watching me, I was daydreaming, suddenly, I'm further along.

 

Something very similar happened to us once actually. One of us (Flandre I think?) was in the shower and also talking to me totally in-mind for a while, and at some point we realized the body was pretty much on autopilot. It's just your mind wandering when there's only ever one person controlling the body. But since we'd had some experience with switching at that point, we realized effectively nobody was controlling it at that time, for like 10-20 minutes. Because we were actually keeping track of who was doing what, we realized none of us were choosing what the body was doing, and so we discovered the body's autopilot.

 

You simply don't have that perspective when you're the only one that controls your body.

 

Anyways, we don't "dissociate" like that very often, no. While wonderlanding and rarely while showering, in a temporary sense. Otherwise it's very consciously done when switching. But in that case, it's less of a "wander" dissociation and more of a "separation" dissociation, if that makes sense.

[Fairweather]

Ironically, I almost never have this happen, but earlier during our brief time away (For an important band trip) there was a moment like that...

So had an alarm set for 7, 7 hits and Sam is the one awaken by it. He decides to lay there for awhile after turning it off. After all, needed to be on the bus at 9:30, a few minutes wouldn't hurt.

Seems like 10 minutes pass, I kinda am awake and controlling...

Temp roommate: Hey are you gonna take a shower or something, we got 10 minutes to get on the bus.

Me: WHAT?

Weird part is, noone here remembers most of the time between, but my roommate said that eyes were open the whole time. I guess that's technically the most I ever dissociated on accident.

[FallFamily]

It just occurred to me.

 

You know how sometimes you are doing something then your mind wanders then you suddenly realise that you are somewhere else and time has passed? That's dissociation. Or a form of it. My host used to get it all the time.

 

Now, today, I was in the shower, and it happened to me. How the heck can that happen to a tulpa, *While* they are in the body? The body was like just on autopilot, my host was watching me, I was daydreaming, suddenly, I'm further along.

 

It seems like this happens more to me than to my host these days. You'd think the one controlling the body would be less likely to dissociate.

 

Soooo... What does dissociation mean to you, and how has it happened to you?

 

[Tri] It can happen to anyone while controlling the body - singlet, host, tulpa, split, soulbond, etc. Daydreaming, derealization, tuning out the hum of the heater or AC, bodily dissociation, etc. All of these things. If you think about it, one gets this in wonderland to if one controls the body and goes to wonderland. One generally dissociates from their wonderland body to associate with the outerworld body, and vice versa. The experience in each direction can be remarkably similar, though often one is easier than the other - generally whichever world one spends the most time in is the hardest to dissociate from and the easiest to associate with. When we are the primary body controller for a while, we actually have a hard time getting back inside.

 

We are major daydreamers actually to the point we daydream a bit too much.

[Luminesce]

If you think about it, one gets this in wonderland to if one controls the body and goes to wonderland. One generally dissociates from their wonderland body to associate with the outerworld body, and vice versa.

 

Yeah, I thought the same thing. You know, that kind of explains why dissociation to the wonderland used to be (pls) sort of required by the definition of switching. We never really used our wonderland passively, only actively, so it wasn't really for us. But certainly, dissociating and associating with your wonderland form is much less effort than just straight up switching dissociation, in my experience. Although it's more temporary for us and not quite grounds to switch, I at least understand people who require the wonderland part a little more now.

 

Still just dissociate through meditation and moving the body awareness though, direct methods work best for us.

[Amon]

For me it's just a lack of awareness of my physical surroundings, which allows me to focus more on whatever's in my mind. It's my goal every time I meditate or spend time with my tulpa. Kinda hard to focus on him when my awareness is split between the physical world and my wonderland.

[Solune]

Thump/thump, thump/thump, thump/thump goes the heart... but does the person notice?

Rarely.

And when they do- so quick to claim ownership. MY heart! thump thump thump.

Can you own something beyond your control? Or does the ability to destroy a thing constitute control?

Every definition leads to other definitions. There is no center within which to form conclusions in this endless labyrinth of language.

The heart doesn't care about any of that. Hearts have been beating long before they had names.

Who owns who?

[tulpa001]

I think in that case, ownership is not like identity or even property. Like you are eating your sandwich. (Okay, that's property) But it isn't your sandwich when you finish eating it. Or you are standing in your location. It is not a location that belongs to you, but rather the one nearest to you. Sort of like your heart is the one that stays with you when you move. And it is the one keeping you alive. You can't use another heart to do that without the aid of a surgeon.

[Ponytail]

I can do this semi-intentionally, actually. I'm not sure why of all random talents I can let time fly faster. It's a useless talent without the context of tulpamancy, why would I waste so much time? It rarely happens unintentionally. Often times it just happens in class when I'm bored. Other times I'm intentionally doing it in an attempt to get my tulpa to possess.

 

Dunno, felt like saying something.