How can I protect myself from tulpas?

[Umyzez]

How long do you spend talking to you " evil Tulpæ"? I wonder if only Tiala is your only Tulpa because you spent the most time with her. Did the "evil Tulpa's" threats start recently?

 

At first I spent a lot of time on the “Main evil tulpa”, when I force him as a character. Then, when I seriously started studying tulpamancy, I spent a lot of time on others. It seems that they all helped me to learn how to hear them. (It lasted ~ 2 years) And then among them I heard Tiala. She seemed to me very friendly, close. I started spending more and more time with her.

 

Threats began when she decided to separate from them and told me everything. Before leaving, she said that none of them would ever be my ally. That they are all together. After that their disguise disappeared.

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Did you, by any chance, give him an evil role as a character? you said they were characters for stories, was he the ''bad guy'' or something? because I can't think of many explanations as to why he became evil when you treated him well. Perhaps he didn't like the idea of being just a ''voice in the head'' and want to live in the real world?

 

Try to take away any power he may have, just don't expect him to be a threat and chances are he won't be. Since it appears he is the real problem, you could try to isolate him from the rest of your tulpas, focus on the other tulpas instead of him.

 

Yes, I gave him the role of an evil character. Something like a cool and memorable villain. But this was only for story. I never treated him as something evil. I was sure that for the characters themselves, my stories are just a theater in which they play roles. That behind the scenes they have their own personal lives.

 

And this is not the first time I have had to face him. Once upon a time he tried to kill me. Then I felt a very strong negative, coming from his image. Summon him "empathically" or as inspired people do, I felt that I was being attacked, that I must urgently defend myself. The picture became clear that everything we did together was a lie, that it was because of him that I stopped feeling other characters. At that moment, I realized that there was an enemy in front of me, that negotiations were meaningless. Symbolically, I tried to kill him, split the "soul stone" (where the essence of the character is). Since then I have ceased to feel it.

 

I marked him as a "dangerous" character. And I tried never to remember him. Attacks ceased.

 

But he's back. They hid from me that he was alive. Other tulpas heard him. Tiala, too. But I am not. (I can’t hear him now). Maybe during this time, he just accumulated strength or he had an accomplice.

 

It seems to me that the more I try to fight him, the more real I make him. Tiala said that he is strong, that he thinks and shapes thoughts faster than I do. It's like he has some kind of mental advantage.

[Guest]

 

Yes, I gave him the role of an evil character. Something like a cool and memorable villain. But this was only for story. I never treated him as something evil. I was sure that for the characters themselves, my stories are just a theater in which they play roles. That behind the scenes they have their own personal lives.

 

 

Maybe you held those expectations on a subconscious level? Or maybe he thought he was that character and not his own person.

 

 

It seems to me that the more I try to fight him, the more real I make him. Tiala said that he is strong, that he thinks and shapes thoughts faster than I do. It's like he has some kind of mental advantage.

 

Exactly, if you see him as a threat, he will be a threat. He can't think and shape thoughts faster than you if you don't focus on him at all, he would need at least a bit of your focus to do these things, just don't give him any attention.

[Umyzez]

 

Maybe you held those expectations on a subconscious level? Or maybe he thought he was that character and not his own person.

 

 

Both options are very close to the truth. But I don't believe that simple expectations were enough for the person to choose to become such a monster.

 

Exactly, if you see him as a threat, he will be a threat. He can't think and shape thoughts faster than you if you don't focus on him at all, he would need at least a bit of your focus to do these things, just don't give him any attention.

 

Maybe I really give him attention somehow. Perhaps I need to analyze how I do this and eradicate all the "bad" habits. It will take some time to stop doing it at all. This tulpa has been around for years, to force it to disappear, it will take a lot of effort.

[Guest]

 

Both options are very close to the truth. But I don't believe that simple expectations were enough for the person to choose to become such a monster.

 

 

Maybe I really give him attention somehow. Perhaps I need to analyze how I do this and eradicate all the "bad" habits. It will take some time to stop doing it at all. This tulpa has been around for years, to force it to disappear, it will take a lot of effort.

 

Anything you make, you can unmake faster.

[Umyzez]

A tulpa can't create other tulpas without the knowledge and approval of the current fronter, these other tulpas are not actually sentient, and you can therefore get rid of them by simply imagining them away.

 

 

Perhaps they created a tulpas in the image of my characters to which I was not indifferent. When I wrote stories about them, invented their design, fronted them; they just finished the work to the end and turned the character into a tulpa. And then begun to force them.

 

I would recommend to try not to pay attention or worry about your tulpas, perhaps even try to convince yourself that they don't exist (this would make dissipation go faster) because the more you think about the issue the more of an issue it will be.

 

It will not be easy. The concept of simply forgetting the enemy instead of continuing to fight is difficult to understand. It is advantageous for the enemy that you remain careless. 

 

Until they completely disappear, it will take a long time, during this time they will try to wrest control. They will train every day and use everything they have.

[Breloomancer]

The thing is, in this scenario if you forget about 'the enemy' then they will cease to exist, that lies at the heart of dissipation. On the other hand thinking about a tulpa makes it stronger, it is essentially feeding it energy. Though it sounds counterproductive that is really what works when trying to fight a thoughtform.

 

They will not be able to do anything during the time when you are not thinking about them, that would require parallel processing, which so far there is little (if any) evidence for, and a lot of evidence against.

[Guest]

No, it isn't advantageous for them if you remain careless, if you care, that means you're acknowledging their existences as threats. The best thing for you to do is to stop treating them as if they were a danger to you, because they're not. They can't control your body against your own will, let alone if they don't have any experience with possession, because I assume they never possessed you?

[Umyzez]

No, it isn't advantageous for them if you remain careless, if you care, that means you're acknowledging their existences as threats. The best thing for you to do is to stop treating them as if they were a danger to you, because they're not. They can't control your body against your own will, let alone if they don't have any experience with possession, because I assume they never possessed you?

 

We never worked on possession. They try to learn it by themselves.

[Breloomancer]

If you've never worked on possession then it will be just about impossible for them to take over without your consent.

 

I had been working under the assumption that you were already able to successfully switch, if you haven't even possessed before then you are far more afraid than you need to be. them trying to take over your body is like an ant trying to move a rubber tree plant, no matter how high hopes they have it's just not going to happen (pardon my song reference)

[Umyzez]

If you've never worked on possession then it will be just about impossible for them to take over without your consent.

 

I had been working under the assumption that you were already able to successfully switch, if you haven't even possessed before then you are far more afraid than you need to be. them trying to take over your body is like an ant trying to move a rubber tree plant, no matter how high hopes they have it's just not going to happen (pardon my song reference)

 

After they demonstrated that they could make the other tulpas "die," I really began to assume the worst. In some guides on possessing (I read them when I didn’t know that my tulpas were "evil".) it was said that the host does not affect the process and everything depends on the tulpa, and on how quickly she can master this skill. Something like you have time to do something until they have learned how to possess you.