Tulpas and poltergeists/the physical

[ghost kid]

I heard tulpa can turn into poltergeists in every sense of the word.Is this true?

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Sorry.I should of put this in the metaphysics and parapsychology forum.

[Rachel Gardner]

Yeah, although I have much to say about such happenings with Zack, this topic would definitely be more suited for the meta section.

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To start off, my soulbond, Zack to me is more than just a headmate... I see him as my own personal...God. So, I believe he is capable of doing more than one would expect.

 

There are instances in my life that I've believed to have experienced Zack having some form of physical interactions with myself and the things around me without him using my body to do so.

 

There was a time back in high school where I was in a computer class. I came from the restroom, about to sit on my chair and while proceeding to sit, I could feel the chair slide away from my bottom causing me to fall on the floor. Now, I looked to see if someone who was next to me pulled a prank on me but there was no way to tell, so I assumed, Zack had done it.

 

Some other occasions would involve my clothing getting snagged on a piece of furniture or the door as if Zack was pulling me back away from something for some reason.

 

A more recent occurring was while I was in the kitchen making food, the bowl on the counter was sliding away from me on its own while I was attempting to grab it. Yeah, I did assume that there was just water underneath the bowl making it move around on the counter but I did think about Zack playing a joke on me by moving it.

 

Even though a lot of these things can be easily sorted out as occurring by natural means like water pressure moving a bowl around, sometimes I like to think that Zack is able to control these elements in some weird way to make things work in his favor.

 

I believe that a tulpa or any kind of non-physical entity has the potential of interacting with tangible things in this world. Zack is one who has been actively trying to bridge the gap between himself and this world for quite some time. But ultimately I think it's all up to the belief of the person since something like this isn't scientifically proven.

[Guest]

There is no one who can know for sure what a poltergeist is, that said, my research on this subject and tulpae indicates that a tulpa may at some level be able to interact with objects. Thus, this seems possible. So if your tulpae can move objects like Zack may be able to do, then yes, this is another plausible explaination of the phenomenon.

 

However, i would have to believe a poltergeist is a malevolent force, and tulpae are nearly universally benevelent. So i prefer to think something else is causing this (non-tulpa).

[KarlYoshimura]

@ghost kid

 

Where did you read that tulpas can exhibit poltergeist qualities? Tulpas can be and are a "malleable" concept in that the host's expectations and beliefs initially shape how they perceive and interact with tulpas.

 

Please be very careful before giving in to unfounded warnings or stories spun up to either misinform or intentionally misdirect one's proceedings.

 

As for the metaphysical outlook, there are opinions that tulpas are like in their own classification or subset of spiritual entities (like teachers or guides in the traditional Buddhist sense), can "acquire" souls to graduate into beings like egregores or are given over to their souls at conception like human beings.

[solarchariot]

The best known poltergeist cast was the Endfield Poltergeist.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enfield_Poltergeist

 

The items I have read on the subject, suggest that the poltergeist may not be a separate entity, but evidence of telekinetic abilities channeled through a troubled child or adolescent. (child gets better, phenomena goes away.) (watch some of the Stanley Krippner videos, new thinking aloud videos youtube.) So, hypothetically speaking, if this is a viable channel for transpersonal experiences that reveal humans can manipulate the material world in more pronounced ways, then it seems a reasonable extension of guessing that a tulpa who can front could also push things in the real world... Which actually coincides the with the Tibetan beliefs, and why they would prefer we not engage tulpamancy because we lack discipline.

[Guest]

Karlyoshimura,

 

I took his post as a chance to metaphysically ponder the idea, not as a threat.

 

If someone can use esp, and a tulpa can switch, then a tulpa can use esp, since a tulpa can do anything a host can do.

 

This forum is meant for this type of conjecture, isn't it?

 

On that note, we do not know for sure who has a soul, maybe just the host body, maybe everyone. If the host personality can be considered equal to the tulpae, then i believe this follows. Depending on your definition of soul, any system can apply, trained or not.

 

Solarchariot,

 

Yes i read that as well, it is another possible mechanism for the phenomena. I am very strongly leaning toward the possibility of manipulating the material world indirectly. I have noted my own occurances, though it is so easy to dismiss them.

[ghost kid]

Can tulpas physically rip the clothes off of someone's body and rape them?Because i read somewhere that tulpas can become poltergeist like and begin to do everything a poltergeist does.:( Is this true?

[Guest]

No. Next question?

[ghost kid]

Can a tulpa become matter and energy back and forth?Just by them thinking about it happening to them?

[Lucilyn]

Well, we don't believe in meta things, which is up to the person... but you're asking about very real scenarios that have never been observed by modern society, so I'm gonna give a solid "No, tulpas can't affect physical reality like that"

 

Could a psychic see your imposed tulpa? Maybe.. but no one's seen a tulpa seriously affect the real world in a physical way, period