Tulpas and Lucid Dreaming

[solarchariot]

wow, forgive me if you already shared, what are you doing? I am what, two weeks into my new tangential experiment to increase frequency... what, 30 days to make a change?

[GrayTheCat]

It's a 'head to toe' relaxation meditation but i reversed it to be 'toe to head' and stripped out all the fluff. It just systematically relaxes the body parts until you get to the head. Somewhere you say 'after each body part you feel more relaxed' and 'at the end you will be in a hypnotic state and receptive to suggestions' something like that. To be honest i rarely get to my waste, when hypnagogic state starts we just have fun until i fall asleep.

 

Oh I know what this is. My therapist recommended Progressive Muscle Relaxation to me once. I tried it once and after 40 minutes I was only most of the way though the exercise.

 

Given that, I don't want to try this before trying to sleep because I'll hypnotize myself and stay awake anyway. I'm curious what your Abridged version looks like Bear.

 

To respond to the OP, Ranger can front during dreams, so my guess is he can become lucid too. He never reported having a lucid dream however.

[Guest]

Yes, it's partly that, partly meditation, partly self hypnosis that we combined and simplified until it was basically nothing. I have written it up before, it takes 5 minutes (if that). If i make it to the end, i have a 20% chance of actually being hypnotized, i experienced some sort of altered state and the next couple days i felt amazing and well rested. Ashley gives me suggestions in a sort of mindvoice that i can't interrupt because i was out of but still heard her. If it wasn't for the amazing feeling after it and Ashley's testimony, i would have figured i fell into a blank dream state, maybe that's what hypnotism is, but the only time i was hypnotized before this by someone else, as far as i knew i fell asleep, but the witnesses said i did things on command...

[Breloomancer]

Cat, hypnosis won't keep you awake, if anything it will make you fall further asleep since relaxation I'd such a major part of it. I've hypnotized myself to sleep before.

 

Once you get in a deep enough trance it's pretty much like dreaming while awake. Though there are also other states, like ultrahight, that keep you quite keen and aware while still having greater access to the interworkings of your mind than in a normal waking state, allowing for some very interesting things to happen

[Guest]

Bre has all the terms. Can you provide a link for ultrahight, Google told me to go check if my refrigerator was running, then laughed at me.

[Breloomancer]

Ultrahight is a state of hypnosis where the body is relaxed and almost asleep, while the mind is awake and more aware than usual. Ultrahight can be used to make certain hypnotic stronger and to allow less work to be done on the part of the hypnotist. It's a pretty cool state, unfortunately it was discovered quite recently and there is very little information about it, and what information is available is almost all behind a paywall. I can't provide you with a very useful link because of that

[Apollo Fire]

If it's behind a paywall then it's probably fake, imo.

[Breloomancer]

It's not fake, ive been hypnotized with ultrahight, the specific websites that I've seen it on may be fake, but the state is very real

[Apollo Fire]

Is it just another word for a "trance state"?

[Breloomancer]

There are tons of different trance states, that all have different properties. Ultrahight is a trance state yes, but that doesn't mean that it is anything like somnambulism or any other trance state