TBnRB's Meditation POWWOW

[LB]

this is the best explanation of the 4 noble truths we found so far, if anyone wants to learn

[Rena Bonnie]

  

Just now, Rena Bonnie said:

we figured out what jhanas are i think (though still haven't entered one)

the weird stuff tb said a while ago to lumi about being able to uhh, idk how to explain it but like, learning about levers or switches or knobs for mental faculties previously not known to exist, i think that is actually key for entering jhanas now. we always wondered how does one enter a jhana because we've had experiences of being pretty focused with pretty quiet mind for extended periods of time without entering a jhana and it makes you think "like, does the mind just decide to after you've been single pointedly focused long enough? why?"

 

it actually doesn't. you could be single pointedly focused forever and not enter a jhana. it actually has very little to do with that. it just so happens that traits people might associate with concentration like that or an unwavering mind are also a consequence of having achieved that actual things responsible for jhanas, and that is minimizing the hindrances as much as possible, and minimizing those hindrances to the extent required to enter a jhana requires discovering these secret knobs, like a radio, and tuning them carefully until you hit the jhana you are looking for. and each subsequent jhana is more and more subtle, so harder to get

 

old radios used to have a big knob and a little knob for more subtle radio tuning, so you can like get to the general station you want, then use the smaller knob for making it clear. i think each jhana is basically you practicing to discover a new more subtle knob, so you can make a more precise adjustment that then leads to the altered state of consciousness associated with that jhana, thus going through the 4 form jhanas and eventually the 4 formless jhanas, ending with neither perception nor non perception, which is as subtle as the mind can get, and is precipice of cessation or stream entry

 

so this feels like a profound discovery. actually, i should post this in our meditation thread. this is one of the hugest clues we've discovered for our spiritual journey

 

[Mitski]

Every moment that passes is an opportunity to reinforce fabrication or defabricate. Every defabrication is a step closer to freedom. 

 

First you have to remember the moment. Then you must choose to let go of old karma. You can't choose if you don't remember. 

[LB]

eVeRy mOmEnT ThAt pASsEs iS aN aNal Fudge you whatever i can't meditate but at least we learned that your power level can drop 1000 points with like 4 days of not meditating thanks to me XD 

 

from life experience i don't blame goku for getting scuffed by a bullet despite being universal destroying god months ago from lack of training. meditation is bs it's benefits are great but will dip fast if you miss even 1 let alone god 2 days or 4 days then you become mentally ill motherfucker 

 

i don't think one was meant to lose meditation skills while in forest of fear and death, dark night and weak vulnerable 

 

i'll make up mistake somehow whatever. glad someone was stupid enough to figure out sitting down and doing nothing for extended period of time is for some reason the way to hack reality and sorry it isn't my biggest interest

[Mitski]

LB's system... isn't doing well, from what I can see and hear from them. Pray they get through the dark night and see the light on the other end... That's what I'm seeking, but LB doesn't handle the ground up to it as well.