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Ignis has lost his form. I cant visualize him as anything anymore. I tried asking him what he wants his form to be, but he isnt talking to me either. Is this his way of being angry with me, or is he just...gone? I dont know what to do, and this is really worrying me.
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I really want to know...how do you know when your tulpa is talking to you? Will you hear them, as if someone was really talking to you in real life? Or is it like how you think, you know the words in your head? Or does it vary per person? I couldn't find any info about this.
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So i started development of a tulpa about 2.5 days ago and she's been progressing very rapidly. The first day I spent forcing I came up with a placeholder form and name to help visualize ( I called her Tulp before she chose her own ) and embedded that form with some basic traits i wanted her to be built around and started narateing and parroting her responses. a while later she began to answer me with yes and no. she told me later she knew I would think I was still parroting if she just answered normally so instead since she already knew what i was going to say she interrupted me while i was relaying the thought to her. The next day I tried talking to her more and she started to diversify her vocabulary a bit with words like sure, uh-huh, nope, or nah. Later that day I asked her how she was feeling and she responded with happy. Whenever I ask questions that require more than one word to answer though I feel like i'm definitely parroting because the responses are exactly what I thought she'd say and they don't sound or feel like her. Later that day we talked about what kinda form she wanted and she decided she's 6'2", has black medium length hair, fair skin, a wide mouth and a perky nose. I also asked her what her favorite primary color is and she said yellow. We'll keep working hard and i'll post more updates as they come! UPDATE i forgot to mention that i created a mindspace for us that consists of my room and her room ( witch she decorated all b herself! ) and outside is a street and on the other side of that is a park. the street cuts off on both sides and the entire rest of the area is covered in grass as far as the eye can see. Tulip spends a lot of time in the park and also likes to draw things from my memories sometimes.
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This is it, sorry for google docs screwing up the margins. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pcDErb0e3X2myO5HMtNuSZe10dxk8X0iUHXWlCtlcqA/pub I reformatted the PDF back-up copy, see here for my explanation -Ranger T_Guide Reguile.pdf
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This is a digital worksheet that I made with the intent of helping tulpas learn how to speak through practice. Feel free to use whichever parts of the worksheet will be useful to you, and share the results if you like. You can either make a copy of the document to record your tulpa's responses there, record them on a separate doc, or just let them talk without worrying about typing. I'd encourage you to record them, however, if only because it's a nice thing to look back on in the future. If you choose to print this doc, be aware that one of the exercises is mostly hyperlinks, so you will lose information. You should cut out exercises/information you don't need before printing. The worksheet contains 10 exercises, each with 15 examples. The host may feel free to add their own examples as they go along. It is organized from most basic to most advanced. All of the necessary information for understanding the exercises and how to go about using it is in the document. Here is the link. Back-up link. [Working 1/7/21] PDF copy: Tulpa Vocalization Practice.pdf Image attachments for exercise #6: Break-down/description of each exercise. Feel free to create your own uses for these exercises if you don't want to use the document itself. (Submitted for Resources)
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So, our Little needs some stimuli because Aalk has gotten kind of attached to her but we don't know how to give it to her. Maybe some conversation starters or even just the smallest of ice breakers would help. We can't get her to talk to any of us, so maybe we could get her to open up to one of you?
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Okay, so we have been getting in a lot of trouble lately and it's only me (Poltergeist , co-host ) and Quinn / Slate (Host) here for hours to days at a time. We were wondering if any of you knew what that could mean, or if it's something bad.
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Good day, Here's a small little thing my host (yes I'm aware I'm using their account) used to do to help us vocalize better, and to have them hear us better. Surely a lot of you have heard the phenomenon of an 'earworm'--when a song in your mind keeps playing on loop. Now, let's say you've got a musician, or a VA in mind. Then play any relevant media of them, and at any moment you'd like and especially the catchy parts or the chorus you stop the song, and let your tulpa autofinish/autocorrect whatever line you interrupted. Now let me just take an example from a game, Mirana from Dota 2. The line is: "Look Sagan, prey!" right? Now, imagine playing it up until, "Look, Sagan--" and you allow your tulpa to finish that sentence. Listen to it a few times first (or not, whatever works) and eventually it should be like second nature. You eventually increase complexity in sentences: "To shadows and to nothing--dissappear!" and eventually longer sentence, different tones of the same sentences... add variety, and eventually there should be another fluent mindvoice like the host's. I hope this helps, -Min EDIT: The voice links seem to be broken, so I've 'fixed' (mobile formatting is a pain) them. If they break again, you could go to the following link and CTRL+F, or find your own! https://dota2.fandom.com/wiki/Mirana/Responses
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Hello (sorry if my english are bad, not native), wanted to ask if someone has good tactics about developing ability to speak and clearly hear your friend mind voice. My Eto can move our fingers at any time so we are communicating with fingers) But i just can't hear her and this continues for a pretty long time.
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Hello everyone!! I’m Ren, pretty new here (been lurking on the site for a few months but never made an account). I actually got introduced to the idea of tulpamancy through Danganronpa V3, by Korekiyo Shinguuji. Funnily enough, guess who’s now my tulpa?... Yep. Korekiyo himself!! So I guess I’ll be putting my progress with him here. Kiyo’s been around for a month and a half now. His growth has been rapid. I never really had anything in my mind blocking his existence, so it was pretty easy for him to develop sentience (or at least what we consider sentience) in a short amount of time. Our wonderland was also formed in a matter of days, but Kiyo has been adjusting it as he sees fit, so who knows what it looks like now? He’s also been working on vocality, being really pushing to adopt his voice. He sounds, looks, and acts exactly like the character.. so maybe he’s a fictive? Either way, Kiyo’s aware that he and that character are not the same being, but he considers himself to be a reincarnation of the character, without the trauma and suffering. He’s really interested in anthropology, of course, and since that’s the career path I want to pursue as well (I’m 15), we’ve been reading a lot of anthropology books together. It’s quite a positive experience, although he does sometimes get annoyed with me when I don’t read them for while, and starts being REALLY sarcastic. It’s okay, though. When I get into arguments with my parents, Kiyo is with me, urging me to keep my cool and not waste my time on them. I wonder if he looks down on them? When he especially disagrees with them, he calls them “petty idiots”. I don’t have any issues with my parents, I love them more than anything, but Korekiyo gets mighty judgemental of people he doesn’t trust, and it takes him a long time to trust someone. But, he doesn’t ever wish harm on anyone, and shows no urges to lash out, rather wishing for me to do the opposite. So I’d say it’s rather inconsequential. Kiyo can sort of talk through me. What I mean by that is that he tells me what he wants to say, and I type it out. But more often than not, I have a general idea of what he wants to say without him saying anything to me. When I ask him about it, though, he confirms that that is what he was saying. So maybe we just mentally communicate really fast? I can definitely make out a difference between my texting pattern and his, and it’s not a conscious choice- when I’m typing for Kiyo, I don’t have to think out what he says, although he speaks in a much more formal manner than I do. It just kinda comes to me naturally, as though he is speaking through my fingertips. Really interesting! We want to get better at possession (or more accurately, we want to be able to do it at all). Any tips from experienced tulpamancers? Also, encouraging notes are appreciated, by both me and Kiyo. (Also, I included an edit I made of him! SPOILERS!!) IMG_4885.MP4 IMG_4885.MP4 Good day to all! Bye! -Ren
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Hello, I am still very new to all of this but we had a question that I wasn't sure how to search for. To start I am not sure if my Tulpa, Giovanni, is vocal. There was an incident, months ago, where early in the morning I heard a voice whisper to me. It wasn't in my head but like right next to my ear, where they could have breathed on me. Truthfully I was spooked by it. I do not remember what it said just the tone of the voice, like a heavy smoker or something close in roughness. It was only later that I reasoned it could have been Giovanni but I have not been able to get a straight answer on it. Since then he is reluctant to open his mouth to speak. Could it have been? Is that what vocalization can sound like/ feel like? Secondly, We have been mildly forceing through the day when we started to talk about fronting. We've been doing that exercise where you have you memory as a library and they can go through and view memories. Giovanni made a reference that forcing could look/ feel like the Emotion Bottles from the show The Magicians. (In the show they trap their emotions in a bottle so they can make unrestrained decisions, sort of.) I thought that was really clever. We have not watched the show together nor talked about it before, but we do talk about magic and similar genres. Is this behavior be considered a reflection of sentience?
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I'm not really sure how to ask this question succinctly as in the title, as it is a bit more specific and needs something of an explanation. We're relatively far along in the overall process as far as I can tell. Short of when other people demand my attention, I am able to maintain focus and passively force at nearly all times throughout the day. I've started working on imposition and we talk very frequently. Our conversations are varied and the responses complicated enough that I'm fairly confidently past questioning sentience. The problem that we're facing now is in the fact that In all cases I am the one directing the conversation. It's often enough that something is asked or said to initiate without my input, but even these inevitably segue into a mostly one sided conversation with comparatively short responses. As this seems to be the next hurdle, I've set my sights on forcing specifically with this goal in mind, eventually hoping to be able to sit back and listen to more long form rambling, or at least participate in a conversation that I am not guiding myself. With that said, I am hoping that someone could offer some advice for how to continue. We haven't really put in that much effort but the only thing I could think of to begin with tackling the project was to simply sit and listen. In one 30 minute session I imagined a simple sitting-room of sorts and tried to focus on them while saying nothing myself, just waiting for a response. besides a little small talk and words of encouragement, I got nothing, even less than we talk just going about our day. I understand that a process such as this likely wouldn't see an obvious breakthrough in such a short amount of time, but the experience has made me doubt that this is an effective way to accomplish it, so I'd be very appreciative to hear some other suggestions. I'd also be interested to hear if anyone has any input as to the logic behind this sort of process, presumably based on experience. I'm still not yet entirely confident with my ability to listen (I'll still confuse a response with my own thoughts or vice-versa, every so often), though based on the questions I've asked it doesn't seem to be a problem with my being able to hear, but with their ability to think about and process topics that I'm not actively thinking about. That is to say, they can think tangentially about a concept or topic that I am focusing on, but can't think of or create one from scratch. I've put alot of thought into this sort of thing so that I could figure out exactly where we stand and what needs to be done. Getting some input based on other's experiences would be extremely helpful. I wasn't really sure whether or not to flag this as a question or discussion, because I'm looking for a bit of both. Thanks all!
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I joined the tulpa community in May of 2012. I worked on my first tulpa, Vinyl, for many months, seldom receiving responses of any kind, although there were several instances of vocal communication and attempts to communicate between us. Nearing the end of the summer, we were nearing the basics of vocal communication but nothing seemed to work, and I was certain I was parroting most responses. Then one night while on the IRC, I made my concerns known to Pronas and Kate who then berated me for not listening to the responses and assuming that this “parroting” was getting in the way of communication and that it wasn’t her. Feeling somewhat dejected, something in me clicked whilst I was sitting at the computer. It seems that I was holding some sort of mental “shield” against her voice, based on expectations of her and basically intended to stop intrusive verbal thoughts from reaching me. I let this shield down, and released any expectations about what was going to happen and what vinyl would be like. I then moved my mind/focus/self/hearing/whathaveyou toward her (placed on the bed behind me) and heard an odd noise not unlike a radio stuck between two stations, like a voice or two mixed with an odd wavering static. This voice was hers and progressed quickly from the static into a semi-stable mindvoice that we have been using to communicate since. Tl;DR: it is possible to create a communication bridge with your tulpa and form a basic mindvoice by pretending that you have psychic powers and then utilizing them to read the mind of your tulpa. I do not know what the strange noise is or why it occurred; I can only speculate that it is related to the thought-speak gibberish (Tulpish) sometimes heard by hosts from their tulpae. Now for the actual Guide-Part of the Guide: 1. Relax, Take a few deep breaths, and clear your mind as much as possible. 2. Let go of any fears and/or preconceptions you may have about your tulpa, and open your mind as much as possible. Be prepared to accept your tulpa for whoever it is, whether or not it has turned out exactly as you intended (It has probably deviated at least a bit – Not a bad thing.) 3. Position your Tulpa somewhere around you inside your 3d-map of the room you are in. Do this as though you were going to impose your tulpa, but don’t expect to see anything. At this point, it might be a good Idea to explain to your tulpa what you are going to try to do and to encourage them to speak up. 4. Feel your presence inside your head and identify it as “you.” Take a minute or two on this; It’ll help differentiate you further from your tulpa. 5. Move this presence that you have Identified as yourself towards the tulpa (or as close to it as you can imagine – you shouldn’t physically feel leaving your body – something around the lines of imagining yourself walking through the room behind you; that kind of visualization is fine.) Whilst doing this, prepare and intend to accept any response that you may receive as being your tulpa. 6. Somewhere along this miniature mental journey, you should, if successful, hear a strange noise much like I did. This is a thought/vocalization of your tulpa and will eventually evolve into a voice that your tulpa can communicate with you in.
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I've seen lots of beginning mancers who got their first response from their tulpa, but mentioned that their tulpa couldn't speak with a mindvoice - usually giving an emotional response, or sending a raw, untranslated thought (you know what they're thinking without them saying it "out loud"). I experienced the same at first, and I've found that there are two ways of teaching your tulpa how to speak in their own mindvoice. The first would be proxying. That is, your tulpa thinks something, and you write/type it out for them. This can be on a forum, on irc, a board, or just on a notepad where you narrate things to your tulpa and write/type their responses. The second, which is my preferred method, is what I call "Echo Parroting". Many mancers seem to think that parroting is bad, and has negative effects on their tulpa, while actually it can be a great forcing tool. The method is simple: Once you are able to get a response from your tulpa (be it emotional or raw thought), whenever you narrate to them and they give a response, you try your best to translate their emotion/thought into words, and parrot it for them (In their mindvoice, obviously. If you don't know which mindvoice they have/should have, pick one that you both (or just they) find suitable.). At first this takes a little bit of practice, but if you keep repeating this for a short period, it will become a nearly automatic process. You say something, they think of a response, and you parrot it for them in their mindvoice almost subconsciously. This will probably go on for a while, until they start gaining more independence. When this happens, they will, inevitably, start talking for themselves. However by this point you will probably be so used to parroting them that you will hear what they say in their own mindvoice, and then still parrot it shortly afterwards, creating an echo effect. This will be your cue of when to stop parroting and let them speak for themselves. I hope this helps, this has worked every time for me so I would be glad if other mancers could put this to good use as well.