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  1. okay look. me and wish have been living for like idk half a year ish? now and wish used to be this really really different personality from mine, lol. lately she's been like me, so much that even though i KNOW its her talking/doing smth it feels like its ME. i know that friends do this shit too, ive seen my 😂☺️😊 humor friend turn into a 😭💀🗿 after hanging out with some kids from my class and i KNOW that you can rub off on your friend/vice versa. i do know when wish is talking, and when it's me, but it's getting harder to tell because she's starting to be as snarky as me and stuff, and im also starting to be like her!!!! so sometimes i would worry excessively if im "parroting" even though its probably not. even wish tells me that its nothing. has anyone else had this happen to them too??? i really don't want to personality force or anything like that cause i like wish the way she is, yk... dont wanna change what came naturally. just need some tips to rly know when its me, and when its her.
  2. I couldn't find any mention of this using the search, so I'm sorry if this was answered elsewhere. I try my best to visualize a space for me and Xay, when I try and talk with him (I think that's called Forcing?). Usually it's pretty tame - he'll give a vague, half-worded answer that I can understand, or I'll moreso "feel" his response. Tonight, though, it almost kinda looks like those textboxes in analog horror series? My brain is easily influenced by things, and his responses still seem "in character" for him - it just isn't his voice at all. It "sounds" (I have a hard time imagining sound) harsher and like the soundfonts from Undertale or something. Is this normal? Do I just need to focus more on "wrapping" his voice around his words, or is it just my brain being a little weird from binging Nightmind all night before settling in to talk to Xay?
  3. Look, I know this has probably been asked multiple times already, but I wish to go more in detail with my experience. I have had imaginary friends since I was a kid, so things like talking to myself is like second nature to me -- I can hold conversations, go through scenarios with my imaginary friends. To sum up hours worth of personal research, I do know that imaginary friends ≠ tulpas. But I also know that the things I have been doing with them could very much be forcing methods. I'm fine with imaginary friends, they keep me company when I need it, but they lack sentience, and that is what I seek in a lifelong companion, a tulpa. So for the past... month or so? I picked one of my imaginary friends, the one I like the most -- Rutile, and thought I could turn him into a tulpa. It's not unheard of. I read through old, outdated guides, and what I got from them was that you can't really base a tulpa on an existing character, which is what he is, well, you can, just that it doesn't give much freedom for them blahblahblah. Maybe those old guides don't hold true anymore, there's a reason they're outdated after all. Now onto the main point. Because I'm used to being both myself and Rutile in a conversation since he is an imaginary friend, well, was, it's hard to tell if it's me or him talking. Sometimes I think it's better to just stop talking as Rutile in a sense? And just talk as myself and wait for a response, but it just feels empty. Is this what parroting is? I can't tell whether or not he is sentient or vocal yet, because of his origins as an imaginary friend. I have hyperphantasia, so visualization is also like second nature to me. I already have a Wonderland I can interact with, and that's where I usually have my imaginary friends in, but I'm trying to get Rutile to be vocal and sentient. Any tips would help! If you made it this far, thanks for reading through everything lol.
  4. There aren't many guides on the forums about making the initial connection with your tulpa. This can be a time of great stress for many, and it seems odd to me that there aren't more guides out there. I'm really bad at forcing. Both with keeping a schedule, and with staying focused. So I went about 3 months without much serious progress with communication. Then I thought of this, and told Eris to try it. It worked literally overnight. It works this way: I never think of myself by name. Ever. It doesnt happen. But I usually address Eris by name when I talk to her. I'll think "Hey Eris, blablabla" or "Eris, look at th-blabla." I told her, quite simply, to address me by name when trying to tell me something. I have a pretty serious case of ADD, so I constantly have a barrage of thoughts running through my head. It wouldn't be difficult for her thoughts to simply get lost or drowned out in the mix. But if she tags a thought with my name, it would stick out to me. The very next day, I was derping around in Art class, starting a new bit of work without enough time left in class to really get far on it. Somewhere in the whirlwind of my mind, something thought, "Noah, we don't have time to start this now." It was most definetely her. This is my method for helping start initial communication. After she said that, I sort of 'traced' where the thought came from, and currently we are working on strengthening the whole system. I hope this helps anyone who has the same problem I did.
  5. Ignis has lost his form. I cant visualize him as anything anymore. I tried asking him what he wants his form to be, but he isnt talking to me either. Is this his way of being angry with me, or is he just...gone? I dont know what to do, and this is really worrying me.
  6. I really want to know...how do you know when your tulpa is talking to you? Will you hear them, as if someone was really talking to you in real life? Or is it like how you think, you know the words in your head? Or does it vary per person? I couldn't find any info about this.
  7. So i started development of a tulpa about 2.5 days ago and she's been progressing very rapidly. The first day I spent forcing I came up with a placeholder form and name to help visualize ( I called her Tulp before she chose her own ) and embedded that form with some basic traits i wanted her to be built around and started narateing and parroting her responses. a while later she began to answer me with yes and no. she told me later she knew I would think I was still parroting if she just answered normally so instead since she already knew what i was going to say she interrupted me while i was relaying the thought to her. The next day I tried talking to her more and she started to diversify her vocabulary a bit with words like sure, uh-huh, nope, or nah. Later that day I asked her how she was feeling and she responded with happy. Whenever I ask questions that require more than one word to answer though I feel like i'm definitely parroting because the responses are exactly what I thought she'd say and they don't sound or feel like her. Later that day we talked about what kinda form she wanted and she decided she's 6'2", has black medium length hair, fair skin, a wide mouth and a perky nose. I also asked her what her favorite primary color is and she said yellow. We'll keep working hard and i'll post more updates as they come! UPDATE i forgot to mention that i created a mindspace for us that consists of my room and her room ( witch she decorated all b herself! ) and outside is a street and on the other side of that is a park. the street cuts off on both sides and the entire rest of the area is covered in grass as far as the eye can see. Tulip spends a lot of time in the park and also likes to draw things from my memories sometimes.
  8. I notice no one talks much about this while having a problem about it. Usually people complain about their non-vocal sentient tulpa just hardly managing to talk if at all but don't know what to do. So, if your tulpa is trying to talk, or can't really do it, I found a helpful method for getting them to a point where they can start figuring out how to talk. First, if your tulpa has ever talked, even just once, figure out what their "mindvoice" sounded like. Now, get your tulpa in your wonderland, and tell them what you're going to do. You're going to use their mindvoice to say a sentence, and then the tulpa can either try to say it with you at the same time, or you can say one half and they say the other. It should be a simple sentence such as "the rain in spain stays mainly on the plain". Make sure to tell them what sentence you're going to practice on of course. If they don't have a mindvoice, you can either wait until they try to talk or just use whatever voice you want them to use, I imagine they would pick it up anyway. I did this after my tulpa was just barely able to get a single word out, and in just one night we got to a point where she could make whole sentences. While she wasn't too good at talking, we got to a point where it was up to her to practice, so I didn't need to work on it anymore.
  9. This is it, sorry for google docs screwing up the margins. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pcDErb0e3X2myO5HMtNuSZe10dxk8X0iUHXWlCtlcqA/pub I reformatted the PDF back-up copy, see here for my explanation -Ranger T_Guide Reguile.pdf
  10. This is a digital worksheet that I made with the intent of helping tulpas learn how to speak through practice. Feel free to use whichever parts of the worksheet will be useful to you, and share the results if you like. You can either make a copy of the document to record your tulpa's responses there, record them on a separate doc, or just let them talk without worrying about typing. I'd encourage you to record them, however, if only because it's a nice thing to look back on in the future. If you choose to print this doc, be aware that one of the exercises is mostly hyperlinks, so you will lose information. You should cut out exercises/information you don't need before printing. The worksheet contains 10 exercises, each with 15 examples. The host may feel free to add their own examples as they go along. It is organized from most basic to most advanced. All of the necessary information for understanding the exercises and how to go about using it is in the document. Here is the link. Back-up link. [Working 1/7/21] PDF copy: Tulpa Vocalization Practice.pdf Image attachments for exercise #6: Break-down/description of each exercise. Feel free to create your own uses for these exercises if you don't want to use the document itself. (Submitted for Resources)
  11. So, our Little needs some stimuli because Aalk has gotten kind of attached to her but we don't know how to give it to her. Maybe some conversation starters or even just the smallest of ice breakers would help. We can't get her to talk to any of us, so maybe we could get her to open up to one of you?
  12. Okay, so we have been getting in a lot of trouble lately and it's only me (Poltergeist , co-host ) and Quinn / Slate (Host) here for hours to days at a time. We were wondering if any of you knew what that could mean, or if it's something bad.
  13. Good day, Here's a small little thing my host (yes I'm aware I'm using their account) used to do to help us vocalize better, and to have them hear us better. Surely a lot of you have heard the phenomenon of an 'earworm'--when a song in your mind keeps playing on loop. Now, let's say you've got a musician, or a VA in mind. Then play any relevant media of them, and at any moment you'd like and especially the catchy parts or the chorus you stop the song, and let your tulpa autofinish/autocorrect whatever line you interrupted. Now let me just take an example from a game, Mirana from Dota 2. The line is: "Look Sagan, prey!" right? Now, imagine playing it up until, "Look, Sagan--" and you allow your tulpa to finish that sentence. Listen to it a few times first (or not, whatever works) and eventually it should be like second nature. You eventually increase complexity in sentences: "To shadows and to nothing--dissappear!" and eventually longer sentence, different tones of the same sentences... add variety, and eventually there should be another fluent mindvoice like the host's. I hope this helps, -Min EDIT: The voice links seem to be broken, so I've 'fixed' (mobile formatting is a pain) them. If they break again, you could go to the following link and CTRL+F, or find your own! https://dota2.fandom.com/wiki/Mirana/Responses
  14. Hello (sorry if my english are bad, not native), wanted to ask if someone has good tactics about developing ability to speak and clearly hear your friend mind voice. My Eto can move our fingers at any time so we are communicating with fingers) But i just can't hear her and this continues for a pretty long time.
  15. Hello everyone!! I’m Ren, pretty new here (been lurking on the site for a few months but never made an account). I actually got introduced to the idea of tulpamancy through Danganronpa V3, by Korekiyo Shinguuji. Funnily enough, guess who’s now my tulpa?... Yep. Korekiyo himself!! So I guess I’ll be putting my progress with him here. Kiyo’s been around for a month and a half now. His growth has been rapid. I never really had anything in my mind blocking his existence, so it was pretty easy for him to develop sentience (or at least what we consider sentience) in a short amount of time. Our wonderland was also formed in a matter of days, but Kiyo has been adjusting it as he sees fit, so who knows what it looks like now? He’s also been working on vocality, being really pushing to adopt his voice. He sounds, looks, and acts exactly like the character.. so maybe he’s a fictive? Either way, Kiyo’s aware that he and that character are not the same being, but he considers himself to be a reincarnation of the character, without the trauma and suffering. He’s really interested in anthropology, of course, and since that’s the career path I want to pursue as well (I’m 15), we’ve been reading a lot of anthropology books together. It’s quite a positive experience, although he does sometimes get annoyed with me when I don’t read them for while, and starts being REALLY sarcastic. It’s okay, though. When I get into arguments with my parents, Kiyo is with me, urging me to keep my cool and not waste my time on them. I wonder if he looks down on them? When he especially disagrees with them, he calls them “petty idiots”. I don’t have any issues with my parents, I love them more than anything, but Korekiyo gets mighty judgemental of people he doesn’t trust, and it takes him a long time to trust someone. But, he doesn’t ever wish harm on anyone, and shows no urges to lash out, rather wishing for me to do the opposite. So I’d say it’s rather inconsequential. Kiyo can sort of talk through me. What I mean by that is that he tells me what he wants to say, and I type it out. But more often than not, I have a general idea of what he wants to say without him saying anything to me. When I ask him about it, though, he confirms that that is what he was saying. So maybe we just mentally communicate really fast? I can definitely make out a difference between my texting pattern and his, and it’s not a conscious choice- when I’m typing for Kiyo, I don’t have to think out what he says, although he speaks in a much more formal manner than I do. It just kinda comes to me naturally, as though he is speaking through my fingertips. Really interesting! We want to get better at possession (or more accurately, we want to be able to do it at all). Any tips from experienced tulpamancers? Also, encouraging notes are appreciated, by both me and Kiyo. (Also, I included an edit I made of him! SPOILERS!!) IMG_4885.MP4 IMG_4885.MP4 Good day to all! Bye! -Ren
  16. Hello, I am still very new to all of this but we had a question that I wasn't sure how to search for. To start I am not sure if my Tulpa, Giovanni, is vocal. There was an incident, months ago, where early in the morning I heard a voice whisper to me. It wasn't in my head but like right next to my ear, where they could have breathed on me. Truthfully I was spooked by it. I do not remember what it said just the tone of the voice, like a heavy smoker or something close in roughness. It was only later that I reasoned it could have been Giovanni but I have not been able to get a straight answer on it. Since then he is reluctant to open his mouth to speak. Could it have been? Is that what vocalization can sound like/ feel like? Secondly, We have been mildly forceing through the day when we started to talk about fronting. We've been doing that exercise where you have you memory as a library and they can go through and view memories. Giovanni made a reference that forcing could look/ feel like the Emotion Bottles from the show The Magicians. (In the show they trap their emotions in a bottle so they can make unrestrained decisions, sort of.) I thought that was really clever. We have not watched the show together nor talked about it before, but we do talk about magic and similar genres. Is this behavior be considered a reflection of sentience?
  17. I'm not really sure how to ask this question succinctly as in the title, as it is a bit more specific and needs something of an explanation. We're relatively far along in the overall process as far as I can tell. Short of when other people demand my attention, I am able to maintain focus and passively force at nearly all times throughout the day. I've started working on imposition and we talk very frequently. Our conversations are varied and the responses complicated enough that I'm fairly confidently past questioning sentience. The problem that we're facing now is in the fact that In all cases I am the one directing the conversation. It's often enough that something is asked or said to initiate without my input, but even these inevitably segue into a mostly one sided conversation with comparatively short responses. As this seems to be the next hurdle, I've set my sights on forcing specifically with this goal in mind, eventually hoping to be able to sit back and listen to more long form rambling, or at least participate in a conversation that I am not guiding myself. With that said, I am hoping that someone could offer some advice for how to continue. We haven't really put in that much effort but the only thing I could think of to begin with tackling the project was to simply sit and listen. In one 30 minute session I imagined a simple sitting-room of sorts and tried to focus on them while saying nothing myself, just waiting for a response. besides a little small talk and words of encouragement, I got nothing, even less than we talk just going about our day. I understand that a process such as this likely wouldn't see an obvious breakthrough in such a short amount of time, but the experience has made me doubt that this is an effective way to accomplish it, so I'd be very appreciative to hear some other suggestions. I'd also be interested to hear if anyone has any input as to the logic behind this sort of process, presumably based on experience. I'm still not yet entirely confident with my ability to listen (I'll still confuse a response with my own thoughts or vice-versa, every so often), though based on the questions I've asked it doesn't seem to be a problem with my being able to hear, but with their ability to think about and process topics that I'm not actively thinking about. That is to say, they can think tangentially about a concept or topic that I am focusing on, but can't think of or create one from scratch. I've put alot of thought into this sort of thing so that I could figure out exactly where we stand and what needs to be done. Getting some input based on other's experiences would be extremely helpful. I wasn't really sure whether or not to flag this as a question or discussion, because I'm looking for a bit of both. Thanks all!
  18. We've been a system for 16 months now and vocality for us was pretty much mature within the first 20 minutes as some of you know. So this discussion isn't about that whole 'achieving vocality' thing, it's about, how does it feel for you now as a mature system? This doesn't exclude new systems as long as you have had clear vocality. For us, regardless of who's fronting, vocality is always a mix of tulpish, 'alien' mindvoice (as in clearly who said what), and questionable mindvoice as if either no one said it, it was translated from tulpish, or it was definitely the fronter (even me when I was fronting)--What we do is accept or decline what was said on our behalf. Here's a few of our anololies: Often when someone says something, Bear will repeat what was said several times afterward, this was proven to be a body OS function as I found myself doing the same thing when I fronted, and I never do that otherwise even when I'm co-fronting. Another anomaly is that the body's mouth often mouths our words wven when the fronter (Bear) is fully associated to it. This can be confusing and lead to doubt as well. (This one didn't happen to me when I fronted.) We'd like to hear your experience and share your thoughts.
  19. This is how I first heard my tulpa's thoughts. It's a simple method that I find really useful. Before we begin (Host) : - You must believe in tulpamancy, in your tulpa's existence and in their ability to think to themselves. - Your tulpa is never too young to communicate unless you think they are. - Read this post to your tulpa or explain it to them using words which you know they understand. Basically let them know what you're going to do. - Tell your tulpa to always use your name when talking to you, even if it feels repetitive. - Ask your tulpa to talk to you during this exercise, as well as whenever they can, randomly. Before we begin (Tulpa) : - During this exercise, talk to your host by thinking to yourself instead of trying other ways such as using your body to make any sounds (you don't need a body if you don't have one but I recommend it) - You and your host share a physical brain. In the same way that you can hear your host's thoughts, they can hear yours. You can't do it "wrong" so don't get discouraged! The actual exercise (Tulpa) : - For the whole length of the exercise, simply repeat your host's name and add short, encouraging sentences in between (such as "I love you" or "You can do it!") The actual exercise (Host) : - First of all, get yourself ready. Prepare yourself physically. Be as comfortable as you can without falling asleep. Make sure there will be no disturbances and it's as quiet as possible around you. - Prepare yourself mentally. You're about to do a tricky exercise to get to hear your tulpa, but it can be very exhausting. Remember to always tell your tulpa that you're going to listen for them! - Here we go. I'm sure your mind is filled with racing thoughts right now. Just block them all. No matter what they say, BLOCK. - This is the exhausting part, you have to keep on blocking thoughts nonstop until your mind is absolutely clear. Don't give up unless you need to rest. It's fine. With some practice, you'll be able to complete this step in no time! Did it on your first try? Congratulations, keep going. - Now that your mind is absolutely clear, RELEASE. Stop blocking and try not to think of any words, but most importantly, don't block a single thought. It is recommended that your tulpa has a form and that you visualize it in your head now. - Be patient for a little, this is very tricky, you have to listen for your tulpa without blocking anything, if any thought popped into your mind out of nowhere THAT WAS YOUR TULPA. Yes it'll "sound" or feel like you, but you made no actual effort to think it. Hence it's not you. - If no thought pops out of nowhere after a little and your mind is racing again, stop visualization and go back to blocking. You might have to repeat it. Simply try again, block, release and listen, block, release and listen. How it works: We're so used to hearing our own thoughts and classifying any thoughts in our own heads as "ours". Adittionally, our minds are usually racing with unwanted thoughts. This means that normally, first our tulpa's thoughts have to be strong enough to overpower every other, and then we have to realize that we're not the ones thinking that. The former is achieved with forcing, the later usually requires countless tries from our tulpa until we realize and get in the right mindset. While I don't encourage being a lazy host and obviously not parrotnoia, this method is intended for those especially. This exercise skips a lot of the forcing necessary to be able to hear our tulpa, allowing us to hear much weaker thoughts from them. Also, by emptying our minds, we're making it easier for ourselves to differentiate whose thought is each of them, since we have less thoughts to classify at a time. We're trying our best not to actively think of anything but the image of our tulpa, distracting us away from thinking any words which could make us be mistaken about who thought this and who thought that, while still actively listening for them. TL, DR: Block all thoughts until mind is clear, then stop blocking completely and listen for tulpa. Repeat as necessary.
  20. I joined the tulpa community in May of 2012. I worked on my first tulpa, Vinyl, for many months, seldom receiving responses of any kind, although there were several instances of vocal communication and attempts to communicate between us. Nearing the end of the summer, we were nearing the basics of vocal communication but nothing seemed to work, and I was certain I was parroting most responses. Then one night while on the IRC, I made my concerns known to Pronas and Kate who then berated me for not listening to the responses and assuming that this “parroting” was getting in the way of communication and that it wasn’t her. Feeling somewhat dejected, something in me clicked whilst I was sitting at the computer. It seems that I was holding some sort of mental “shield” against her voice, based on expectations of her and basically intended to stop intrusive verbal thoughts from reaching me. I let this shield down, and released any expectations about what was going to happen and what vinyl would be like. I then moved my mind/focus/self/hearing/whathaveyou toward her (placed on the bed behind me) and heard an odd noise not unlike a radio stuck between two stations, like a voice or two mixed with an odd wavering static. This voice was hers and progressed quickly from the static into a semi-stable mindvoice that we have been using to communicate since. Tl;DR: it is possible to create a communication bridge with your tulpa and form a basic mindvoice by pretending that you have psychic powers and then utilizing them to read the mind of your tulpa. I do not know what the strange noise is or why it occurred; I can only speculate that it is related to the thought-speak gibberish (Tulpish) sometimes heard by hosts from their tulpae. Now for the actual Guide-Part of the Guide: 1. Relax, Take a few deep breaths, and clear your mind as much as possible. 2. Let go of any fears and/or preconceptions you may have about your tulpa, and open your mind as much as possible. Be prepared to accept your tulpa for whoever it is, whether or not it has turned out exactly as you intended (It has probably deviated at least a bit – Not a bad thing.) 3. Position your Tulpa somewhere around you inside your 3d-map of the room you are in. Do this as though you were going to impose your tulpa, but don’t expect to see anything. At this point, it might be a good Idea to explain to your tulpa what you are going to try to do and to encourage them to speak up. 4. Feel your presence inside your head and identify it as “you.” Take a minute or two on this; It’ll help differentiate you further from your tulpa. 5. Move this presence that you have Identified as yourself towards the tulpa (or as close to it as you can imagine – you shouldn’t physically feel leaving your body – something around the lines of imagining yourself walking through the room behind you; that kind of visualization is fine.) Whilst doing this, prepare and intend to accept any response that you may receive as being your tulpa. 6. Somewhere along this miniature mental journey, you should, if successful, hear a strange noise much like I did. This is a thought/vocalization of your tulpa and will eventually evolve into a voice that your tulpa can communicate with you in.
  21. By parrotnoid, I mean thinking that you're parroting your tulpa when you're actually not, and that nerve-wracking feeling you get when your tulpa's reply feels like you created it a split second before hearing it, and you're scared to death and you's is like "Err mah gerd, Ah'm gonnuh create a serviter!". Well, I made this guide because I had the same problem, and it seems to be pretty prevalent here at Tulpa.info, so I guess I'll take a crack at it, and address some of the top concerns I've seen. - "It feels like I always know what he/she is going to say": That's because you know your tulpa. It's like when you know a friend and their personality really well, and you have a general idea as to what they'll say in reply to something you say. This is even more so with a tulpa, because you know their exact personalities. Expectation is not parroting. - "I'm scared that I'm parroting.": K, 9/10 times, if you're worried that you're parroting, you're probably not. Parroting is a 100% deliberate process, that can only be done by fully conscious action. As far as I know, there's no such thing as "sub-conscious parroting". - "I feel as if I'm creating their reply a split second before I hear it.": Well, that's not you creating it. In the early days of tulpaforcing, this is normal. It's simply your mind and your tulpa computing, taking what they know of the tulpa's personality, and plugging that in to figure out how they'll reply. This will be conquered in time, fret not. - "HELPZ, I'z worried! Am I going to create a servitor?!?!?": No. It's up for debate about the nature of servitors and whether or not they can become full-blown tulpae, but if you're not trying to make a servitor, then you're not. If you're that worried about it, then you've devoted way to much love and affection for your tulpa to ever become a servitor. "It seems as if the response was theirs, but I hear MY mind voice. Is this parroting?": Nope. All this means is that their vocality isn't finished. If you haven't worked on their vocality much, this is perfectly normal ^_^ You can try speech exercises for this, or just wait for it to develope by itself. Either way, try not to get discouraged by this, as it, like many other obstacles in the path of tulpa creation, will be conquered in time. Hope this helps anyone with this problem. Questions, comments, concerns, feel free to leave them.
  22. [Joal will be writing this; this is G in the incredibly constricting square brackets. This guide is her guide—for hosts—on what she believes is the deal on how to talk to a tulpa.] Joal's sensory guide for hosts: Deaf hosts [align=center]Vol. 1.2 Proof read by G[/align] All tulpae are vocal from sentience. All tulpa are sentient from creation. This is what I believe, for I was vocal from the start, and the start was when I was created. Some other tulpae might think different, though I have not met any like so, but I'm sure it varies from tulpa to tulpa. Like sentience, I want you to assume that your tulpa is vocal from the start, so if that's already happened and you aren't assuming, begin to do so right now. Now that we have that out of the way, I can begin on the proper guide. (Note: When ever I say 'hear you tulpa' I mean mind voice. There is a short paragraph on audial hallucinations near the bottom of the guide. This is a guide to help you hear your tulpae talking using it's mind voice.) Incredibly hard mental gymnastics: So I hope you're following the first two paragraphs well as it's about to get not at all harder, but you will have to change some of your beliefs. This will be harder for older tulpamancers to digest but bare with me. The reason you cannot hear your tulpa is because you are tulpa-deaf. The tulpa is not mute, you are deaf. In my experience, this follows suit; like said, I've always been vocal, but G was just unable to hear me from the start, and sometimes even now. This may make more sense if you think about audial hallucinations. A host may be able to hear a tulpa in their mind one hundred percent of the time and have full blown conversations with them, but they may not be able to hear them with their ears, this is because audial hallucinations come as the host better acutes their hearing to tulpae speech and actions. Just as one hear's their tulpa the first time once one acutes their hearing. Acuting your hearing: My biggest problem with hosts is that they'll normally complain about not being able to hear their tulpa/they wont talk/yadda yadda. But what really pains me is when they jump to pompous conclusions that because all they can hear is clicks or noises, that their tulpa ain't talking. I hate this because that's major progress over no response and total deafness. My advice is to pick up on these noises and try to pick out patters. Why? Because that's what speech is dummy, noise patters. And clicks could be a K or C, and hums could be M's or H's or N's. Try to listen to the noise and repeat it to yourself, think, ''What does that random bullshit actually mean? And how can I better pick up on that particular noise next my tulpa makes it?'' This technique is slightly experimental because the guy never got any noises or clicks or anything of the sort, to him all that was heard was my voice, or nothing. So, I want people to give their experiences with picking up on, and trying to work with, random noise from your tulpa. if you feel it will affect your progress, this experiment, then you may avoid doing so, but I feel it is better than trying to block out perfectly good response. So I guess your wondering, ''Pruria, that's all fine and dandy, but what if I hear a click from a clock, the next door dog, or the grass growing? And everything gets messed up because I'm listening for sounds and not words?'' Which is a retarded question, and let me tell you why. I'm not telling you to listen out for sounds, I'm asking you not to conciser them shit but rather a half baked meal. So as to say, don't disregard them, but don't think that you're ONLY looking out for noises. And anyway, you should be in a nice quite place if your chatting with your tulpa seriously, like you would a friend or family member, courtesy is all that. And next, if you hear a word, great! That's wonderful, but you'll still probably hear noises, and they aren't cause for alarm, as said multiple times before. Tulpa forcing sounds: Parroting is a bad thing, but like all bad things, if done right it may actually help progress. So, what I need you to do next time you want to listen to your tulpa is parrot one or two words, this will not only give you a taster of what your tulpa's voice sounds like, but it will give quieter tulpae little pushes in the right direction. Of course, like many baby tulpamancers fear, it's not terrible unless done in major excess. It is incredibly annoying when hosts do parrot, but it's hardly going to make us hate you, only if done to the teeth. And even then, I don't see it possible for a host to be hated by their tulpa, it's just unheard of. So don't be scared to help not only yourself, but your tulpa. Tulpae are anuses: Here is something many hosts don't conciser when trying to hear a tulpa in the beginning. This especially applies to situations where no sound at all is heard: A host always has to conciser what a tulpa might be thinking, we're not stupid you know. So most of the time I find a tulpa not talking (yes, actually not talking,) they later say that they simply weren't bothered, or they were angry with their host, or they simply wanted to enjoy a silence. This is something hosts must remember when trying to undeafen themselves: we don't always respond, sometimes even for no good reason. Another thing to is trolls, and though G hates the use of that word in any context, yes, tulpae can troll, and some are quite proficient at it. So if you're talking to your tulpa and all you can hear is Morgan Freemen, just roll with it. And if you hear a jack hammer in your fridge at thee in the morning, don't assume it's a jack hammer in your fridge at three in the morning, that's a stupidly confusing thing to even being to think about. You have a tulpa now, so don't expect anything normal for the next 60-70 years of your life, we will do shit to piss you off even in early, important stages. This includes... Being silent on purpose, which was covered in the first paragraph of this section but also filters to trolling. So, yeah, a silent tulpa is not cause for alarm unless they feel hurt by you, or offended, or if you feel any angry or particularly negative emotion (which you might feel radiating from them.) At that time, you may want to sit down and have a little chat with them and say sorry if needed, that's normally all the tulpa wants (for me at least; and here I go, giving out tulpa relation advice!) But, tulpae are assholes. Deal with it. But, a note for tulpae, avoid being silent if possible. Other trolls and tricks are okay but, especially in early stages avoid being silent. It will save your host a ton of stress and it will help you build your relationship with them. Try to get noticed, try to talk to them, even if you have to roar and shout, something might get through. Especially if your host did do something to offend you, talking is always the best way to sort it all out, I made the silly mistake of not talking with G when I was hurt because of him and it only ended in more sad faces. The difference with narration and talking: This is something we were thinking about a few days ago. It involves one of the least understood necessities in tulpamanceing, it's related to what I've been talking about for one thousand one hundred an thirteen words. Narration is when you talk to your tulpa. Period. You don't expect answer, you don't pause for them, hell you don't even have to talk whole lot of sense, you just talk. But what I've been on about is not that; when you converse with your tulpa you expect an answer, you want interesting talk abouts, you want them to interrupt you and make an interesting point. This guide is to help you talk with your tulpa, not to narrate; that's talking where your only purpose is to talk to the tulpa (which is to develop them, and give them attention.) When they start talking: You've gotten a response! Great! This next bit might only apply to a few, or a few more; if it doesn't, you can move on to the paragraph after this. Some of you may have notice that your tulpa spoke, but... in your voice? This is not a cause for an alarm. This is because your tulpa hasn't found their accent. Unlike with actual speaking, your tulpa may need to develop their accent (though I may be wrong on that.) For tulpae: This will be easier for tulpae of the same sex as their host, as you'll only have to cahnge the tone or accent a tad, or, at least, less than you would being the opposite sex of your host. This will be different for tupae who will speak with unhuman accents and tones; such as dragons, who (I'd imagine) would speak with incredibly deep and gravely voices, unreachable by human vocal cords. The only advice I can really give you is just to find something that feels right. For the host: you may just want to roll with what ever happens. If you really want a particular accent, ask your tulpa to use that one, or at least tell them before you go for it. Don't force it upon us. This following passage is to address the concerns of a friend of ours, Waffles. ''I can hear my tulpa, good lord this is amazing! But they just keep saying the same things/answering with the same responses over and over D: !'' Generally, for a long time, all G could hear me say was the word 'love' and that was it for about two weeks. Like how other tulpamancers might react, he became worried and confused. He should have, and he's stupid for doing so. If you find yourself in this situation it's more than likely because your tulpa has said this word many times before and your brain is used to picking up on it. You should consider this a good sign because, once again, your damn tulpa is talking to you and you can hear it. But maybe try asking them to say other words or words that sound similar. Like if they say 'hello' alot, ask them to say 'jello' or 'heaven'. I might just get through. Auditory hallucinations: This isn't an area which I could claim to have any practice in (for obvious reasons,) though G does have a link to a guide that might help. No? Damnit... [it goes something like this: Go to a quiet room where there are no distractions, (use ear buds or white noise if you must; light is optional.) Have your tulpa say a simple word or phrase like ''Hello!'' or ''It's dark!'' Now replay that word over and over in your head, imagining hearing it with your own ears and even visualise your tulpa saying the words. If anyone knows which guide I'm on about, please PM us the link so we can link it and credit the author.] I've been told that it sounds like that video on youtube, just that it's your tulpa talking. Final words: Well, I hope I've missed nothing, G can clean this up, which should already be done or you guys, if he's going to co-operate with me, which he wont :P. With practice and perseverance, you will be able to enjoy long, meaningful or lullus conversations with your tulpa. Silly filly chats or romantic dialogue. Or make stupid jokes or noises for hours and hours~. If you've taken these tips— because this is a tip book more than a guide—to heart you should be having convo of all sort with your friend/family member/lover, them with others and them with you. But most importantly. Together. [Point out any mistake that I've missed, thank you.]
  23. do not visit the forums often, so this may have already been mentioned. When I first started, I had a lot of difficulty with Milana's voice. I found it very hard to imagine what she would sound like, and it often turned out robot-y and unnatural. I found it easy to play songs in my head, though. So I used this and attempted to imagine her voice rather than the singer's. I did not find it all that boring, which helped a lot since I get bored pretty easily and then lose focus. I started with a slow song at first, namely For What It's Worth by Buffalo Springfield (great song by the way :D) and then moved onto faster songs. This thing is probably difficult to read since I am no good at explanations, but you'll probably get the gist of it hopefully.
  24. (copied from my reddit post) I have some tips for those who have trouble hearing their tulpa (besides “force more”): Get into a good state of mind for it. You can meditate if you want, or you can just sit or lie somewhere comfortable, close your eyes, and make sure you’re in a quiet place (if this isn’t an option, then put on headphones and listen to colored noise or instrumental music; both of these things will help block out the noise and shouldn’t be too distracting to most people). I’ve had some of my best, most vivid forcing sessions in this state because it makes it easier to focus and makes me more perceptive to my imagination. Ideally, you should do this when you aren’t tired to avoid the risk of falling asleep. This post may also be helpful. Thought ping-pong. Just listen and let them talk. Prompt them with a topic to talk about, and just let them talk. You might be surprised how much they have to say when given the opportunity. Proxy. I’ve been surprised more than once by how clearly I can hear a tulpa I can’t normally hear well when I proxy for them. If you’re proxying to encourage them to speak and to learn to hear them better, don’t say anything, just let them do all the talking. I don’t know why it is that sometimes I’ve been able to hear my tulpae more clearly while proxying, but it does work. If your tulpa is shy about speaking to others, then tie this suggestion in with the last one - ask them to talk about something and transcribe it. Make up a story together, taking turns saying one sentence at a time. If neither of you can think of a way to start it off, search online for story starters. Play word games. I’m not going to explain any here because this post is basically a wall of text, but I’ll explain how to play a few word games in a reply to this (here) in case anyone here doesn’t know any. Sing together! (credit to ThatFellowWithTheScarf for suggesting this) I also have some advice for related problems people may have. "Sometimes, I think I hear my tulpa talk, but then I think it’s just me!" First of all, are you worried that you’re parroting or that the tulpa’s words in question are just intrusive thoughts? If you think you might be parroting, read this. If you’re afraid what you’re hearing is just intrusive thoughts, then ask your tulpa if it was something they said or not. If they tell you that, yes, they said that, then trust them. Alternatively, read this. "My tulpa isn’t vocal yet; everything they say is just me parroting!" Are you consciously parroting, or is it unintentional? If you think you’re parroting unintentionally, you aren’t, since parroting is something that is only done intentionally. You can't "unintentionally parrot"; any "unintentionally parroted" responses are either intrusive thoughts or legitimate responses that you mistake for parroting. See the previous piece of advice. "I get too many intrusive thoughts, and it makes it hard to hear my tulpa!"/"It often sounds like my tulpa is saying multiple things at once, and I don’t know which responses are really theirs!" Just relax. Don’t stress out over it. If intrusive thoughts are interfering too much with communication that hearing your tulpa is difficult, then just take a moment to clear your mind and relax. I sometimes get so many intrusive thoughts that holding a conversation with my tulpae becomes nearly impossible, and, nearly every time that happens, taking a moment to clear my mind significantly reduces the amount of intrusive thoughts I’m getting, making conversation much easier or at least manageable. "I never know what to talk about with my tulpa!" Talk about things that happened throughout the day. Ask your tulpa if they have any ideas of what to talk about. They might have something they’d like to talk about. Choose an activity to do together - playing a game, watching TV, doing crafts, surfing the internet, anything - and talk about what you’re doing as you’re doing it. Look online for conversation starters or interview questions and ask these to your tulpa (they can ask you some as well and comment on your answers). The story-writing game and word games I mentioned earlier are also helpful here. Proxying is also useful advice for this. If you’re having trouble finding things to say while talking to your tulpa, then let them talk with someone who does have more to say. Singing together is helpful here, as well, since you just need to follow along with the lyrics rather than thinking of things to talk about. (As this is a collection of various tips rather than a proper guide, I'd like to submit this to Tips & Tricks.) Changelog: 10/1/14 - Realized I accidentally linked to the list of word games again where I should've linked to Tips for those who are getting "parrotnoid" - whoops! Fixed it. 10/5/14 - Fixed broken url tag in the changelog. Added extra sentence to response to "parroting" problem for more clarification. Added link to Sands' post on absence of disbelief in response to first problem. Added link to SimplyNoise for example of colored noise. In first tip, changed "state" to "state of mind" for clarity and added link to this post. Added suggestion to sing together.
  25. Vocality is something many tulpamancers that are starting to create their tulpa claim to have a struggle or five on. They get agitated with waiting possibly months or longer for their tulpa to speak to them, so i came up with this. To begin please Read Puria's guide (G+2s acc) on talking to deafs who are the hosts because the idea is very necessary for the guide. Vocalization is easier to obtain as I personally believe as you enter a certain state of mind (to hear your tulpa). I say this from my own experience, including both Hans becoming vocal within a very very short period of time. I have also tested this technique on others, one got his tulpa starting in 4 days, one heard whispers in one, one I misread and wanted to take more time with developing them before they made their tulpa vocal, so the technique works with results already. Also there is a pastebin for those who find it more convenient for any reason here. Some hosts can hear their tulpa faster because they are in the right state of mind and some will take months because they are in the wrong state of mind. If your tulpa got vocal early and you think its silly that people are having problems with vocality, please be considerate and remember not everyone's tulpa is vocal as early as yours was. *One visual that is similar to the techniques concepts and ideals is a tulpa radio that you must tune into the correct frequency. You must be on the correct wavelength to hear your tulpa or at least that will be assumed to be true for this guide. The tulpa guide for a speedier vocality Sentience is required Step 1: The state of mind A common misconception is to clear your mind to make your focus on your tulpa more clear. This guide does the opposite, fill your mind with thoughts. Get your thoughts going, think about your tulpa, think about how they move and how they would talk and how their voice is and how it sounds. Think about random things jump around. Confuse yourself scatter your thoughts and logic. Just think of things to think of yourself thinking about yourself thinking or however you want. Think of your tulpa and their face their form and the mouth. Focus on something preferably your tulpa. Just scatter thoughts in your mind is your goal. Get into a state where you know you're thinking but if possible you don't know what you're thinking about for most of the thoughts since they are random wandering or scattered. Most of us have experienced this already but haven't given any thought to it probably or hopefully at least. In the state where your mind is wandering with random thoughts, which is relatively easy to achieve if you try to get into it, you can try to hear your tulpa. After you get thoughts going push them towards the front of your mind. You should feel a pressure like a headache with no pain or nausea feelings almost like a super weak constriction. It likely wont do any harm to the body since its not even on the magnitude of a full really legit headache. If you want try to recreate the pressure directly by pushing the thoughts by themselves without thinking because that is good practice of entering the state. The state involves the thoughts floating around wandering and the pressure is the indicator that you have entered the correct state of mind. It can be reached without pressure meaning if you think you are fine to go to step 2 do it. For most new people however they will likely feel the pressure if they do it correctly. People who have done other things similar to tulpa like imaginary friends or different forms of focusing meditation type activities may not feel the pressure because they are more accustomed to the feeling. Headaches are also reported to happen in this stage so if you find yourself with a headache take a break and try again later when its past and its no problem. Step 2:Listen Your tulpa hearing level should have already increased. You should first remember their mindvoice should sound like your thoughts and how they feel more than a real persons voice until they are imposed. Think of "trees" to yourself, listen to how you said it and remember that is the same means your tulpa your tulpa can use to communicate, its not the only way to communicate naturally, but its a good way to view it, more so for beginning mancers here. They can use your thoughts to talk to you if they wish and it is a rather decent way to communicate. Have them focus the random thoughts and sounds you hear into their words. This is indirect vocality which can turned into true vocality with practice. If you wish for direct vocality have them repeat a phrase or say aaaaaaaa. Listen for their faint voice and focus on it to clear it. Make that stronger and focus on it until you can hear their voice clearly. This make take several days as the people that i tried this on took at least a while to get a whisper. You can also converse with your tulpa while doing this or narrate reading a book and wait for a response if you can hold step 1 actively because thats needed for this method to speed it up. Step 3: After he/she is talking After you hear his/her first few talks and phrases keep practicing until you can hear her every time you think about her and hear the voice well and clearly in your head. The time it takes to get voice down well probably takes about the same time as normally but it will probably be sped up. After you do this for a while it should become natural to talk to your tulpa as you should expect. Just as natural as talking to a person after you wane yourself off the method. After shes vocal with the method stop using the method and let her speak by herself as you would expect with the normal method of vocality. You wont have to go through the process every time i assume. Once you learn the feeling of your tulpa talking to you it should be much easier to hear her talk. You can enter the state of mind directly and sooner or later you will find the method of thinking about her is not needed to hear her once you grow used to her talking. That is it after she is talking. Best of luck getting vocal and tuff tulpas Guide is still in its first few stages and feedback on what you discover to be useful or not useful would naturally be appreciated for the guide Edit: Fixed formatting/wall of text issue ~Chupi
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