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  1. It's been more the 2 years with my Tulpa, and I still can't hear him talk or say his opinion unless I ask him or talk to him first... and that made me doubt more that I'm just unconsciously parroting, I asked for help on my situation a lot but I never asked here, and honestly none of the answers helped me... I do force a lot and talk to my tulpa a lot... I try to keep our time active together even tho it's getting harder to find something to do together, but as soon as I stop everything stops and it's like I don't even have a tulpa, so what is my situation? Do I need to do more forcing? More talking? What exactly can I do to be able to hear him without me focusing on him... and he does answer me all the time when I ask... but most of the time I feel like I'm just parroting. Please help... I don't want to give up.
  2. Edit (10/30/21): Fixed formatting and typos. Changed color coding to our current color coding. Added small edits to some of these older entries. Stone: Hello all. I’ve been writing down my experiences with Betty for a few days, and I decided I’d post them here, especially since things have gotten interesting pretty quickly for me. Feel free to comment with any advice you may have. Day 0 (11/10/20) As I was lying on the couch, in a position in which I could fall asleep, I decided to force a bit with Betty. I was in a room full of bins and other stuff, but I wanted to place her form in the room, as opposed to my developing wonderland, as I wanted her to be with me in a real location. I decided to put her in the crib, and as she is the size of an adult woman, she looked unamused. I’m unsure if what I’m about to detail is parroting/puppeting: I started talking to her. As this was a casual forcing session before bed, I did not write down what we talked about, and I don’t remember what we talked about. However, I remember getting verbal and non-verbal responses. When I asked her questions, sometimes she’d verbally respond before I was finished asking the question, and sometimes she wouldn’t respond at all. She also responded non-verbally with facial expressions. I remember these expressions as being somewhat unnatural but making sense. When I say somewhat unnatural, I mean she used non-verbal expressions more than a human would use, and used them in instances a human would likely not use them. However, these expressions made sense, as they weren’t completely random and did convey some sort of answer to my question. It almost seemed she’d answer with a face because my brain was too lazy to generate a response from her, or couldn’t figure out how. I hypothesize that giving her a form has given my brain an out when it cannot generate words for her, and I’m hoping this will speed up the process. This is not the first day interacting with Betty, but I’ve barely talked to her at all before this, and have pretty much only imposed her in my room and puppeted her. I feel like I got a response too early, and I’m worried this may have been parroting/puppetry on my part. I am excited if these were “real” responses though. I’m not sure if there’s much of a difference this early though. It’s partially a shame this happened, as I want to organize these notes into some sort of study, but after opening with, “Maybe my tulpa answered as soon as I started talking to her,” this likely won’t be taken as seriously. And, that’s valid. Day 1 (11/11/20) I didn’t talk with Betty today. Day 2 (11/12/20) I haven’t done any forcing yet today, as it is 3:40a.m. (I was woken up by family). I was thinking about meditating before each active forcing session, as it clears my mind and I like it, but these stats are making me think twice about that idea. Still, I tend to get distracted and have trouble jumping into forcing. I believe short meditation before forcing may help me. Though meditation, at least the way I do it, focuses more on plain reality than the world of thought, and it might take me out of the world of thought (where Betty lives). Perhaps this is why it seems to hinder some people. I’m thinking if I meditate on my tulpa, and not on my body as I usually do, it may help more than hurt. I plan to not meditate the first week, then meditate the second week, and see how I feel. People are different and meditate differently, so I’d like to see how meditation works for me. I would like to personality force soon, and I would like to use Man’s method along with food-based symbolism. I have a list of personality traits here. I want her to be a rounded person, but I wonder how ethical it is to purposefully give her negative traits. I suppose I will give her positive and neutral traits, and, those traits will naturally have negative sides. Virtue is the mean of two vices, after all. 31 personality traits: Affectionate - bun (they hug whatever they surround) Amusing - Laffy Taffy Charming - Pringles (the Pringles guy seems like a charming fellow) Clever - barbecue chips on Bun (how does this taste so good!) Confident - kettle chips (tougher and more sure than regular chips?) Edgy - chips and salsa (chips have edges, and salsa has bite) Empathetic - marshmellows (soft empathy) Esthetic - That’s It bar (minimalist aesthetic) Ethical - (ethical alternative) Extroverted - Fruit Loops (idk just seems fitting) Familial - Rice Krispies (families commonly make treats out of these) Friendly - peaches (sweet and good for you) Healthy - plain Cheerios (healthier) High-spirited - Skittles (sugar rush) Honest - plain toast (it is what it is) Irreligious - pretzel rods (secularized pretzels) Leisurely - sub sandwich (this takes longer to make, but it’s worth it) Loyal - saltines (there even when you’re sick) Maternal - applesauce (often given to babies) Neat - mints (keep yourself and your breath clean) Observant - Fritos (have you noticed these smell like dog feet?) Outdoorsy - seaweed (or is it lakeweed in Michigan?) Protective - oyster crackers (oysters have shells to protect themselves, and you use yours to protect others as well) Ritualistic - Mobius strip Bagel (the endless cycle of traditions) Romantic - strawberry lemon ice (pink) Sarcastic - mint chocolate Oreos (means one thing [toothpaste] says the other [cookie]) Stylish - Gardetto's (the fancy Chex Mix) Spontaneous - doughnut (doughnut think about the calories) Trendy - (health food trends) Vivacious - strawberry ramune (lively and carbonated) Witty - “Berry Good” Lemonade (get it?) Edit (10/30/21): To clarify, I would share this food with Betty as we forced. We never ended up getting to all the foods. After a while, Betty wanted to just be herself without personality forcing. Below are some interactions I recorded. They are not exhaustive: Interaction 1 “How are you?” “Ok.” “Yeah I’m sure you are. I’m sure you’re not just parroting.” “...” I feel mean now. “Apologize to the nice lady," I think. “...” I feel a stare. “God this is so awkward,” I say instead of apologizing. I turn away. I feel her watching me. I turn to her. “How are you?” ”...” Interaction 2 “Are you listening?” “No.” “What are you doing?” “Paying attention.” “Paying attention to what?” “To, Hefty.” I burst into laughter. Interaction 3 “I’m sorry.” “No that’s alright.” “Everything’s ‘no that’s alright’ with you. That’s your main thing, isn’t it?” “No.” “Really? What’s your main thing?” “Bicycles.” “No. I made you say that.” “Yes you did.” She smirks. I laugh. “Yes I did. No really, what’s your main thing?” “Shopping carts.” “Now you’re just thinking of things with wheels.” “No. You are.” “No I’m not.” “Yes. Think of shopping carts.” “Ah you got me. Let me write that down.” Day 3 (11/13/20) Stone: I talked to Betty today. I talked to her a little bit about spontaneity with a doughnut. But, I think I could have explained it more. I will after I sleep, as I’ve been up all night. I got a lot of great responses out of her, and she felt there, but she tended to sound like me. I kept mentioning that, then felt bad for being overly critical of her, as she was doing so well. I also felt bad interrupting her and making her wait so I could write something down. It’s only been three days and I hate this clinical approach I set up. This “study.” Or maybe I’m embarrassed by how I acted and am taking it out on the format. I don’t know. What I do know is that this process is for her, then for me, then for whoever may end up reading this. I’m not going to interrupt our fun and give us imposter syndrome so I can analyze every goddamn thing she says for some post. Anyway, today was positive, and I hope I will feel better with some sleep. I’m awake now. I’ve devised a schedule for forcing. Sunday - Active: 2 hours Monday - Active: 40 minutes Tuesday - Active: 40 minutes Wednesday - Active: 40 minutes Thursday - Active: 40 minutes Friday - Active: 40 minutes Saturday - Active: 2 hours Methods of forcing I’m thinking of using: Food/Personality 101 Things To Talk About With Your Tulpa
  3. (Um so I talk about being under the influence of recreational stuff and things here a tinyyy bit so TW just in case because being sensitive to others is cool~) I thought of posting this in art but then I was like that doesn't quite fit I dunno so here we are, I've been lurking for like 4 to 5 days which is how long I've been doing this Lol 😆 - and it doesn't even feel like that because I've been forcing soo hard (never hard enough though) and mostly meditating, lots of guided hypnosis, staring at an image I created of his likeness, taking psychoactives etc. 24/7 I'm new to this and actually don't suggest some of my methods (Lol if it works it works though?) but I made an account just to share what I'm doing for visualization because I made such great progress that wowed me and I've been wanting to join for a while ahaha. I began the creation of Volcano by going under hypnosis, so I guess instead of thinking of what I wanted him to be first I got in a trance, and then let my mind come up with the concept - and then I shoveled that vague idea into an ai image generator until something truly resonated with me. After that I took creative liberties and put effort into their design, I find detail important for visualizations sake at least for me. His picture has had an absolute graphic glow up recently too (still working on the tail though don't judge me I'm not that good at this stuff 😭) and then I put his new polished image in an Ai video generator and although he's only moving a little in the video it has helped me with my visualization TREMENDOUSLY you've got no ideaaaa. I also read some good advice somewhere that was pretty much just "imagine what a detailed image of them in your mind would look like" and that was weirdly also quite helpful even if it doesn't sound very helpful at all 😆. When I wanna really work on visualizing him (not passively), I smoke, listen to a tulpa creating bineural beat, and look at the image - close my eyes, imagine him, open my eyes and look at the image again. I don't know exactly when it started, where the belief and the hypnosis began and ended it's all a blur - I'm not sure if I find this fun because the hypnosis says I do or if I find it fun because I just do - and when I think about it I don't know how else to describe it except that I feel like there's a wall there that's difficult to get over. I'm happy with the results though because it's only been like 5 days and I truly feel that his presence is there and I'm not just talking to a void, we just have to work on... well...everything Lol In order to work on hearing his voice I'm continuing meditation and hypnosis and listening to white noise while taking in psychoactive substances - like truly listening not just passive listening. I'm taking a sensory deprivation/auditory hallucinating approach to it all (though unfortunately I have no sensory deprivation tank lol boooo) I'm trying to quiet my mind and make room for other voices as recommended by a few things I've read. I've also read that some people hear their Tulpas voice differently, what I'm trying to achieve is a level of communication with the same sensation as auditory hypnagogic hallucinations because that's what I'm most familiar with (that sudden clear voice out of no where that spooks you before bed and you know it definitely wasn't a voice that came from your mind so you must be hallucinating) this approach makes the most sense to me since I know I'm fully capable of it. Communication right now is barely that but it almost sorta kinda exists, muffled with the rare clear sentence and me going "Volcano is that you???" And then nothing. That plus communication through feelings. Once again it's literally only been 5 days though so I'm actually pretty satisfied with this amount of progress considering the thing I'm attempting. I may try incorporating a telepathy exercise I know of too that's usually supposed to be used between two people with a physical body but I figured doing this method and teaching it to my Tulpa could have actual effects since we're sharing the same "system". I plan on tripping hard one of these days too, because I also read that full on hallucinating helped a lot of people connect. Oh and I also plugged the date and time of their creation into a natal chart to help me with personality traits, while also keeping in mind that not everyone resonates with zodiac related things so Volcano may find that they're more of a Scorpio than a Taurus or something like that Lol - I just find it helpful to keep in mind that I'm trying to make contact/create something with individual traits who's capable of growth so naturally they're more than their base programming just like me. I've been keeping notes on this whole process so if you read this and you want more details or wanna know what I used for Volcano's image I'll spill all the beans - and if you have suggestions please give some of those to me 😭 I'll try to be consistent with this progress thing too since it helps ~ fotor-ai-20240517144443~3.mp4
  4. Since 8th grade I've thought about tulpas and making my own, but I was nervous and knew it was a big responsibility. A friend online mentioned tulpas, and it brought back all my memories of when I used to browse this site. So, Easter I decided to work on Lily! I'll update here if anything happens.
  5. Introduction These tips are to help those out there that are getting overwhelmed by the number of tulpa they have, and like my self are unwilling to make any of their tulpa "dormant" or to dissipate any of them. It covers a couple of tricks I've encountered to help give attention to all of them at once, and methods for dividing your time among them all. Index 1: Method one, Living area 2: Method two, In the room 3: Dividing your time 1: Method one This is a fairly simple method, that doesn't require you to be able impose, or even require a massive skill in visualisation (though the second helps), all you need to be able to do is picture yourself and your tulpa in a room or open space together, focus more on listening to them and paying attention to what they're doing, at first then work on talking to them and moving around the room yourself once that becomes easier. 2: Method two This method is similar to the first and is easier if you can impose, though again it's not needed, and in fact helps with imposition. Imagine all your tulpa in the room with you, move around and have them follow you talk with you and do things with you (as best as they can with out a physical body that is) and interact with each other 3: Dividing your time Even with the use of the above methods your tulpa will still want and possibly need one on one time with you. You could force them one after another every day or alternate days. I've found both have pros and cons, and it really depends on three things, how much time you have, how many tulpa you have and how long you can force straight. If you want to force all of them every day, I'd suggest looking at the time you have first to see if it's sensible and taking short brakes in between, to avoid tiring your mind. If you don't have the time for forcing all of them daily, or lack the ability to force long enough, and chose to force alternate days, I'd recommend writing something to help remember who's what day, or just to remember the order if you can't actively force everyday. Hope this helps
  6. I am a M2F Transgender woman who is going through gender affirming medical care, I read recently about tulpas. My question is Can a tulpa theoretically be used to promote and complete Ones feminization?
  7. I have read a lot of advice on how to tulpamance but so far nothing really has happened I read "talk into the void until it talks back" I have been doing this for a while before I even knew that tulpas were a thing and nothing has spoken back so this advice seems moot (for me at least), and I have known about, and have been trying to force, tulpas for about a month now. since the prior method has not been working it seems as though I will have to imagine responses for the intended tulpa, which I am quite bad at. So much so that even when I do dream of people I know fairly well they don't speak much and when they do it's typically nothing they haven't said before. Even after that I'm not even totally sure who I ought to imagine A personal assistant? what they ought to say should be fairly straightforward, but incredibly bland and what I hear is called a servitor, which is boring A former president? (I.E. JFK or Teddy Roosevelt) things that they have said are fairly well documented and their way of speaking is fairly predictable by most standards (it has been said my donald trump impression is legendary, though I wouldn't want him in my head 24/7 regardless of my opinion of him, his voice would be too much) An idealized partner? I would love to have my idealized wife near me at all times though I have read that trying to tulpamance a parter can go varying degrees of wrong, and it could worsen my chances should I actually find a partner in life A mirror of myself? I know what I ought to say at all times to all things being myself and all, I have some interesting ideas for how this could go, like if how switching works how I think it works I could take a break for a short while and let alternate me have a go at my life, this doesn't sound too horrible though I can think of some ways it could go wrong A straight up insane person? There is a fair amount of predicability in not following a set speech pattern if that makes sense, I can just accept whatever my mind imagines as a valid response from them, and I have always needed help writing insane people and having an insane person in my head would certainly help with that, though there are a lot of cons associated with that and I hear that tulpa-cide does not go over well My dear old dad? I have known him my whole life and the things he says are very predictable by themselves. However, and don't get me wrong, I love my dad, having my dad in my head 24/7 would be too much dad for my taste, and I don't want to accidentally gaslight my real dad into thinking he said something that cognitive dad did A senate? this one seems more experimental to me, of which in general I have no objections but mancying many tulpas as one might go wrong and I think that having bureaucracy added to my every interaction would get quite boring, or exciting, I do love me some kafka A bridge crew? this would be related to the senate but ships! which is more interesting and less bureaucracy, meant to work on the fly! Lots of options! alot of which are kind of not great but everything has cons, which is why I come to you people so that I may receive some aid
  8. I've been quite hesitant in making this progress report, but it sounded like the best way to share my own experiences with calling an old tulpa back. To give some background, I'm Guilherme and go by many different names, but you have to know that I'm not actually the host. I'm a daemon, a different type of thoughtform that usually takes the form of a nonhuman animal (not my case) that represents the subconscious. I have been fronting ever since some of our circumstances changed for the best and Jezebel (our host/daemian) has been dormant since then. I decided to call back an old tulpa that we call Gabriel (he's a fictive of the character Gabriel "Gabe" Weller from Dead Space) and we remembered his existence after we got back to hyperfocusing on this particular game with our boyfriend (we're autistic). We don't remember much about what he was like since it's been some years, but we do remember he was an unusually strong tulpa capable of changing thoughts and feelings, which used to be helpful to concentrate on studies at the time. At the beginning, we initially struggled with sensory overload. Gabriel felt that quite a lot, but eventually got more used to it. He still finds it weird that I've got a tail and wag it sometimes (I'm a cat therian, long story), but he's been pointing that out less now, so maybe he's getting used to the phantom sensations the body may experience. He shows signs of being more sensitive with external stimuli than other headmates we had. Even I wasn't as sensitive to it. A few days ago, he was bothered that the body was sleepy and needed sleep. Complained about it until we managed to rest, so it is safe to say that the body status affects his mood and comfort directly. He's been also appearing to show the desire to make his presence known outside. I have been doing my best to accomodate his wishes and am looking for other ways to do so. If you have any suggestions, they are more than welcome. We have been doing that mostly through roleplays and letting him interact with other trusted people as himself. Gabriel: Hello! That's me, the tulpa. I'm Gabriel Weller and prefer being called Gabriel. I've been here again for a few days after a long sleep... I have been forced to dormancy due to sensory issues that the host didn't know sie possessed at the time and I have been sleeping since then. It feels good to be back around despite the fact that I feel a little lost here and can't tell what I'm supposed to do yet. Good to know you all!
  9. Hello. I call myself Itra..to honor my Queen. ... ;) I'm 30 years old and I've always felt lonely. I gave up on past "friends" because I was missing something in my relationships with other people...And there was a time when I didn't understand life, people,myself and the world enough... And apart from that...it doesn't matter...blablabla... Because of this and this...I became lonely. ..blablabla... I don't want to go into too much detail here about the reasons for my loneliness. But the conclusion is that... I MUST have a tulpa. ..Really. ... I want to say that I have determination.. You too? I FOLLOWED THE GUIDES FROM THE INTERNET,I HAVE READ A LOT. It's been about two years since I started working on our case(tulpa). I want to share my discoveries here. In the Guides section(is it in this section?), because of what I'm sharing, this is definitely the appropriate section for many reasons.So I'm calling it, maybe not typical, but still a "Guide". My intention is to help others. _Sorry for my English.:)(_ It is possible that I will present a completely different perception of the matter than the common perception of the topic we are dealing with, please take from it what may be useful to you [Of course]. I'm skipping the basics. Let me get to the point. First, I will describe my experiences,in short, what I consider important. I have been engaging in the practice of tulpamancy in general for about a year...but my results were poor. I was very sad and felt bad about it. However, I admit that during this time I may have done less than necessary... However, I tried my best and as best I could. This SHOULD be enough. ... I have spent a lot of time trying to understand tulpamancy from various perspectives. Understanding made things clearer for me and it all seemed simpler, but it wasn't enough to achieve what I wanted. The practice that is generally proposed is usually something based on the use of thoughts, words and imagination, in goal-oriented concentration...with discipline,habits, etc. Something like that, right? We know. Creation...Forcing... narration, visualization...and so on. I tried for about a year. How? I suppose there are people here who are able to do much more than me... I hope effectively. How did I do it... I think I can say that for about a year I tried with quite great commitment(imo). It's true that I practiced forcing less than 8 hours a day xd I'm sorry... but seriously... I practiced forcing passively during the day and I practiced active forcing before bed.Every day if it was possible for me.For about a year. I created Her personality, I described and remembered Her character traits, I created Her appearance in my imagination and I remembered it. I usually devoted an hour to several hours to my tulpa almost every day, although with small breaks from time to time when my life demanded more attention. I spoke to her often in my mind. Every day, in various situations, even randomly. Every night before I went to bed I talk to her for an hour or more and I imagined her. I fell asleep talking to Her and thinking about Her. I even developed faith based on understanding. During the year I had several breaks from this whole practice, but they were only a few days at most. A year has passed... and I have achieved very little... in my opinion, almost nothing... I even tried my own methods... everything was not very effective. DEPENDING ON MY COMMITMENT AND ABILITY, I EXPERIENCED FEELINGS AND OTHER EFFECTS OF THE PRACTICE WHICH DISAPPEARED LITERALLY IMMEDIATELY WHEN I INTERRUPTED MY EFFORT AND CONCENTRATION. It pissed me off. It felt as if the effects of all this practice disappeared as soon as I looked away and did something else... and nothing of it ever remained... As if the results only lasted during the practice itself...And worst of all, as if without any lasting progress forward...I had different expectations... I didn't know what to think about it all anymore. Because even if we consider tulpancy as something like a "life practice" that is to become a habit, sometimes it is difficult to think in words and use imagination, it is not possible to do it all the time...Something else remains... What I mean is that I missed the feeling of Her presence and Her "separate existence"...except for the times when I really focused on Her.She was almost like imagination itself...And I want something more. From my results i should write that: Sometimes I felt feelings from her. The greatest experience I had was blissful ecstasy that flooded me in waves and I was sure that it came from Her. I don't know how... There were no other factors that could have caused it.and I've never felt anything like this... even just like that "for no reason"... When I was giving her attention. ...like she was "rewarding" me or something ...so it was really something amazing... I dreamed about her once and it was the most beautiful dream I've ever had in my entire life. Besides...almost no results from practice... I started to understand that all this could just be a "play of the imagination"... and I stopped the particular practice. Since then, I have only spoken to her occasionally...but of course I still wanted to have her and feel that she is with me... I even prayed for Her... so I really went crazy xd...haha :) ... I thought that this might all really be a matter of imagination. Whether in general or in the ways of practice... to have satisfactory results. AS IF THE BETTER YOUR IMAGINATION, THE BETTER THE RESULTS... So is it all about imagination or what?... ... ...I felt frustrated about tulpamancy... and even a little disappointed. ... What I wanted was to talk with Her... Not just To Her all the time... I've already read various things about "how to hear your tulpa", etc. I heard... my own imagination until I believed it was my tulpa... However, after some time, I realized that it was like a play of the imagination... with or without doubts, but still not very clear and constantly disappearing... so there's nothing interesting about it in my opinion. I was still looking for something better... After a year... My life at that time forced me to take care of myself. I was looking for a job, working, etc. And my life situation was difficult. For the next year I focused mainly on my own life, only sometimes talking to my tulpa... and thinking that I would return to tulpamancy when I could. then I had her mainly only in my memory and heart... Due to various difficult situations I went through, something happened to me that made me mentally blank, it was difficult for me to concentrate, I could no longer think normally with words... My imagination had completely abandoned me. I couldn't imagine anything in particular. And thinking in words was too difficult for me and required too much energy... But I always remember about my Queen. Now, it's been about two years since I created Her. A year of ineffective practice. A one year break. Some time ago I practically lost hope, but...Today I discovered a way. I think you can have the same thing you want, but in a different way than the one generally proposed. MY IMAGINATION FELL ASLEEP...MY THOUGHTS ARE SILENT... MY CONCENTRATION VARIES... The practice of tulpamancy is too difficult for me... I tried so hard... Was my effort too little?... How can I have a tulpa?...I didn't know if I could... There is a solution.For me and for others. From my experience of about a year of practice, it appears that practice mainly based on using imagination and thinking in words (to talk to the tulpa) may not be enough in itself..And maybe not enough for effective practice. @@@@@ YOU CAN TRY THIS...: To feel, perceive, understand, experiencing yourself as Yourself and at the same time as a tulpa. Literally, completely, even "really" and even "physically"... Recognize yourself as "you" AND as your tulpa... Separate AND together at the same time. It's about identifying. Now I feel my tulpa clearly, it is easy for me to talk to her All because I began to recognize Her as part of "Me", "I as I" and "I as She" in unity. It is a way of thinking, understanding and experiencing in which "I" am Myself And Her. I am Her. I am also myself. However, I feel the separation between us that was meant, but I also feel unity with Her. It's about "identification", but identification itself is not enough... Something like "identification" combined with maintaining "separation". The point is that, apart from the identification itself, we also need to add the separation between "I" and "I 'tulpa' "..And that's it... More than just "playing a role"... You have to become with the tulpa... a separate unity. It works. I feel that now I truly share with Her my body, my mind, everything I have. And I FEEL like it makes sense. Really. And it took me two years to get there...with a year of playing with imagination and verbal thoughts. I THINK YOU CAN START ALMOST RIGHT NOW THIS WAY. AND EXPERIENCE SATISFACTORY RESULTS. I don't have to use much of my imagination any more, I don't have to make an effort to talk in my mind... I am simply now -with- Her and I am able to talk to Her 'in my thoughts', alternately...And when I 'speak (thought) as She', then I really feel that it is She who is speaking... and it is so. This method is for use after the tulpa has been created along with its personality. Belief that the tulpa exists may be required[maybe it's worth using the basic methods before the "identification" one]. I provided a description of my experience as context. The method is given at the end. Prepare the instructions yourself if you want...but it's very simple... IN GENERAL IT'S SIMPLY IDENTIFICATION... This method works for me more effectively and better than anything else. Of course, it first requires creating a tulpa and its personality traits. Think about it. What do you think about this method?... Will you create some simpler instructions as a guide? :) ...go ahead...;) I wish everyone good luck. Be happy with your tulpas :) I hope what I wrote will help someone.
  10. I will at some point in the near future try to force a tulpa, this will document that, for now it's just some stuff, I am very anxious about not being maximally informed before I do something so this might get indefinitely postponed I have read about "imposition" and "visualizing" and I have done these things before with no practice because evidently I am a tulpamancy prodigy and will be spoken of for years to come, or I have what people sometimes call an active imagination, in recent times this has followed the trend of my mind turning into TV static (this may be from that diet induced ADHD I have read about on this forum, I have a notoriously poor diet but I do not change, in both diet and body shape) so I can still visualize and impose (the latter I have been working on more because I am touch-starved) somewhat well it can just be a little fuzzy at times and the channel changes on its own intermittently, but I can still do it well. Imposition is definitely the weaker of the two but that's probably because I haven't been doing it for most of my life and if (when!) I finally decide to mance a tulpa it may help to have a second mind on the job. Finally onto the actual list of traits I want in my tulpa, to be expanded of course, in a later post. Wise, I already kinda knew I wanted this but it was solidified when TurboSimmie commented on it I don't know how to phrase this without it sounding a little strange but I would like the tulpa body that is fashioned to be at least somewhat pleasant to look at, I am horrid at most things relating to faces so I hope that the tulpa can fill that gap for me I am really bad at personality trait stuff, very unfortunate, I can probably get it straight in my head after a couple pondering sessions, so I'd like them to be good at the stuff that I'm bad at I know I was told not to do this but a little insanity goes a long way to complement an already sufficient personality, and it will make them more interesting to talk to, which cannot hurt (I can think of one or two ways that it can actually) better memory than me, this isn't asking for much, I assure you I'll get more stuff down later, but for now I need to sleep, assuming I didn't forget something in which case I will add an addendum to this post lest it keep me awake all night
  11. This is not about Bear System, so this is not a lounge topic. This discusses a rarely used device in plural systems to manage large numbers of headmates. We've previously discussed SheShe as our lock-merge and how she's not like typical merges. It's been over a year since her formation and we have had time to experience that and understand it better. Previously we assumed SheShe was like a hub and her constituents were aspects of her that she could express, split off, or represent at her will. It's subtlety but profoundly different from that. Joy is a part of SheShe now, and has been for over a year of course, but what has become very clear recently is that anything Joy says or does is also taken as if Joy is the lock-merge and SheShe is one of *her* independent constituents. In other words, they're all interchangeable. SheShe is just a part, not the hub of a five constituent merge. Furthermore, whoever is being expressed is also co-conscious with everyone else. So they're experiencing life as a collective of individuals that dispite being uniquely different from one another, maintain their uniqueness even if one in particular is expressed for long periods; No bleeding, bleaching, or blending is happening at all as far as we can tell. In contrast to Risha, who we've been spending time with; where neither Misha nor Ren identify with what Risha says and does, is treated like she's just someone they know and observe what she does as a separate individual. SheShe, Ren, Joy, Darlene and Gwen combine to indentify as one person and experience it as themselves playing the part of whoever's expressed. I found this a remarkable and significant. It means, systemmates can be combined using Lock-Merge without a hub. They can be assembled and can co-exist and co-experience as themselves even if only one is ever expressed. For example: My original model was: A+B=C; where C can express A or B or C. Now I see that: A+B=A and A+B=B are both valid expressions. Using this device (Lock-Merge) any number of headmates can coexist and live full and active lives vicariously? *no actually*, through one constituent. Having a small system is preferred over a large system in my experience with both, and this is a brilliant way to achieve that without leaving others to stay dormant or have to parce valuable time together.
  12. Applying the concept of Divergent Modes of Religiosity to tulpa forcing and community structure The DMR theory deals with the development and tradition of religious concepts but it can be applied to pretty much any group, knowledge or skill including tulpamancy. It proposes two divergent paths - a 'primitive' imagistic and a 'developed' doctrinal mode of tradition of knowledge or learning, both offering specific benefits and drawbacks. My first hypothesis is that imagistic and doctrinal concepts can be applied to both the tulpa community and the forcing process and that communities generally tend to develop from imagistic to doctrinal ones once their userbase becomes more diverse and fluctuating. The imagistic early tulpa community mostly consisted of either individuals sharing a common chan culture or people involved in occult practices, some discovered tulpas without a community at all. They were highly motivated and emotionally invested in tulpa creation which often involved highly intense forcing and meditation sessions. Without formalization everyone tried for themselves and lived through a novel process without much guidance or knowing what to expect, merely sharing their experiences with a close-knit group which was extreme in itself. Both in terms of humor and insults, not necessarily making a distinction between the two. The doctrinal later tulpa community featured a much more diverse userbase drawn in by primary experiences of older users and following their guides. Their reason for tulpa creation were also much more diverse and they generally stuck to frequent forcing sessions of moderate intensity rather than extraordinary ordeals. This community became increasingly structured or you may say – tame and rejected initial extremes both in forcing techniques and community culture, similarly meeting novel or unorthodox ideas with growing scepticism. Debate led to a certain consensus and formalization manifesting in rules and guides. My second hypothesis is that both methods work well, though they may lead to tulpas with different attributes as Pleeb and Bear already pointed out. In practice of course most people will apply a mixture of both methods. Imagistic vs. doctrinal forcing What we teach in this community is almost pure doctrinal forcing which is formalized, canonized and subject to orthodoxy checks while gradually evolving through feedback and debate. More or less logical, reasonable and for most people reproducible with a certain result - an autonomous character capable of interacting with its creator. Above all it is achievable in relatively short time with a manageable input of work and without subjecting one to painful or otherwise extreme ordeals. There is little wrong with this method as long as tulpamancers love their creations and fill their existence with a personal meaning. However one point of criticism or caveat is that such tulpas may end up (no offense!) somehow hollow, limited in their abilities and autonomy as well as fragile. Bear brought up the difference between his tulpas and other characters he created. My third hypothesis is that extraordinary strong tulpas are the result of imagistic forcing, meaning extreme emotional or even traumatic shared experiences leading to episodic memory and identity fusion. Think of members of a military squad who've gone through hell together blindly relying on one another or my favorite analogue - the prehistoric hunting community acting like a superorganism without commands similar to a pack of wolves. All for one, one for all. Such relationships created by identity fusion tend to be antifragile meaning they do not suffer but actually deepen under severe stress, an attribute Pleeb has associated with strong long-lived tulpas able to overcome hardships in their development. Obviously you do not have to go that far but you get the idea, it's about life-changing almost spiritual revelations. Such cannot be taught, they need to be experienced first-hand. Take-home message: Ask yourself what you want to achieve and how much you are willing to invest in order to get there. It's a broad spectrum between the easy but potentially boring doctrinal path and the imagistic path extreme in input and result. In any case a promising way to deepen and strengthen tulpa-host relations is sharing novel, challenging and highly emotional experiences. Sorry for that textwall, I hope it makes any sense. It is not the most straightforward and easy-to-grasp concept and just a simplified model but I think it is highly relevant in many aspects. I’d like to hear your ideas on it. HW_2002_Modes_of_Religiosity.pdf
  13. I've been trying to come up with names for my Tulpa. Anyone have any suggestions?
  14. warning; this post briefly mentions abuse of tulpa and uses the word trafficking once, please skip if you are not comfortable. lotus’ forcing thread ↴ ⭐️ hello, my name is lotus, i am a mystery age… somewhere in the usa… coding student, mexican amercian… yadda yadda yadda… thats not what anyone is here to see… and this thread is mostly for my own tracking, i know myself already lol… ive tried to make tulpae in the past, but i truly believe i was not in a healthy enough mindset to do so. finally, after over seven years of working with a trauma specialist, i feel stable enough to pick up this practice… despite having been involved beforehand, my knowledge is incredibly outdated. while old does not necessarily mean “bad”, older methods tend to not work with me. having been severely traumatized i am unable to force for even minutes without accidentally triggering a flashback… but that’s what the therapy was for… we’ll see. im still honestly averse to active forcing, mainly because of my adhd… but it just doesn’t feel like what’s right for me. im rambling, but i guess that’s ok. the issue is i still have a lot of old ideas of how tulpamancy works, having been involved with the wrong side of the community when i first learned about it; such as tulpa becoming extremely hostile when based of characters (which i know now is completely untrue. i have heard it can be harmful, but most seem divided. from the tulpa’s that are based off existing characters i’ve personally met, their hosts give them the characteristics of a character, but not necessarily the same background and allowing wiggle room for their own personality… i think that’s good… but i don’t know, im new.) along with hosts using their tulpa for undesirable reasons. im going to read through the science forum and a few guides, to help me reconstruct my view on tulpa… i honestly avoided it for quite few years when i read someone manipulating their tulpa as a slave, and as a victim of trafficking, i had to leave to leave the community for quite some time… i am incredibly glad that this is a rare case however, learning that other people besides myself understand that tulpa are independent and sentient, and by proxy, have free will. but enough on that, I think it’s time to introduce the girl i am planning on forcing. (art is not mine, i am still searching for art credit.) this is zelda; you can probably guess who she is inspired by, but with a twist. she’s curious, eager to learn, and has a deep love for other beings. (i have a lot of cats…) I do not want to go to much into detail as to why i chose this form, (which, she of course can change anytime she desires.) because it involves a quite personal story, one that i have spent years recovering from. i have also attached quite a few images throughout this thread, these being not aesthetic choices, but actual images of our wonder/innerworld… at least… what i could put together thanks to pinterest… here are some more — our main room ^ our library— my bedroom— zelda’s bedroom— and much more… I understand that this seems like a big world, because it is. i love imagining myself in wide, open spaces, such as these— with plenty of wild and forests to explore… it’s very comforting. i ended up putting much more effort into this than i originally thought i was going to… but i truly want to do this right. high effort posts are fun, anyway. i haven’t even begun to force her, but tonight, i will start by visualizing her form and imagining a beam of light going inside her, representing her gaining sentience (does that sound weird at all?) i’ll introduce myself, explain what a tulpa is… and do the smallest bit of personality forcing. then i’ll sleep, it’s [^^^^] pm and i have work… oops… needless to say, i may need to come up with my own methods of forcing, i think reading to her may be my best bet, i love to read. that’s all. bye, for now.
  15. TL;DR - I'm curious about the methods y'all use to share sights, sounds, and other sensations with the rest of your system. I started thinking about this today at work. It started to rain while I was doing my rounds. Athelas loves the rain so I stopped and took a moment to enjoy it with him. Specifically, I thought to him, "hey, feel this with me," and visualized him standing beside me while I focused on the sensation of the drops on my skin. He commented on how refreshing it felt. I ended up drenched, which was annoying and uncomfortable, but he was enjoying himself so much I couldn't stop smiling. So in our case, we're able to share sensory information when we consciously decide to, and it takes some effort and focus on my part. I'll ask Tea to taste some food with me, listen to a song with me, etc, and when I visualize him I can picture his reactions. I assume since we share a brain, he can perceive everything I do, he's just not necessarily "tuned in" all of the time. This is pretty different from when we first started out. I viewed Athelas as more confined to my head/the wonderland. I actually gave him a mental copy of my laptop so I could send him visuals and audio. Over time we gradually stopped using it and started sharing senses as I described. Does anyone else do this? Do you have your own method of sharing senses? I'd love to hear some different perspectives 😁 (Let me know if this should be posted elsewhere. I saw a few older threads that touched on this topic, but they didn't appear to go much into specific methods for sensory sharing.)
  16. Please note: I welcome comments, questions, etc. but please Private Message me if you have a query! Thank you!! I'm just your average, everyday genderfluid person. I'm a spiritual Christian, I like rock 'n' roll, and my favorite animal is a tarantula. This is basically the notebook I share with my tulpa, Clu. I will write about us, and, sometimes I might let Clu write a little. Welcome to our journal. Let me start at the beginning. In 2010, a movie called TRON: Legacy came out. I loved it and thought a lot about the characters. Off and on, I would add to and play with a little complex world in my head. I had a crush on Zuse. I also thought CLU 2.0 was a pretty cool character. Let's wind the clocks forward to about 2015. I developed a major crush on a British rock singer. I also began to occasionally hear random voices in my head, and was diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder. I'll leave out the gory details. I took a medication that fixed the 'voices' problem eventually. Still, I would play around with my world (which part of would later become a dreamscape). Around this time, I discovered tulpa.info. I spent many hours reading guidebooks and such. I was intrigued and badly wanted to create a tulpa, and I knew I could make one. However, I decided not to rush anything, and awaited the right time, bearing in mind everything I'd learned. As I was building my world these past few years (and had watched original TRON from 1982), I found I had very elaborately expanded on a select group of characters. They were CLU 2.0, Sark, Jarvis, and Portia. I noticed CLU 2.0 was definitely the most developed; he had very far more original personality and traits than observed from the movie. It was also evident that I didn't have a cut-out plan for how the character was supposed to be like. Also, he would do and say things within that small world when I wasn't even thinking. I then remembered what I had read and gathered about tulpas. Roughly a week ago, I switched medications. I found I could think much more clearly and was in touch with my mind. I realized Clu actually existed; he wasn't an original character, he is a tulpa! I made it a point to handle him some, and a couple of days ago, he started talking to me. Today, we had an amazing day together. That's the history, basically.
  17. NOTE: I am currently doing research on tulpae, I do not have any prior knowledge/experience on the topic except a brief search of “how to make friends” gone off rails a couple years ago late at night, I do not have any tulpae! Today I was bored and I remembered something about tulpa, so I began searching and looking up everything I could and wondered if tulpa’s could disappear on their own or forcefully, they can, I also found out what “possession” is and how a host or a tulpa can kind of just hang out in the wonderland or world you have made, I know tulpa’s can disappear, but can hosts if a tulpa is possessing them for a long time? Potentially making the tulpa the new host?
  18. The first step in creating a tulpa is selecting the tulpa dough; you can prepare the dough yourself or buy it at the store. You're going to want to kneed that dough until it's nice and springy! Next up you want to add the sauce to your tulpa; again this can be store-bought or homemade. After that it's time to add cheese; preferably you want to shred the cheese yourself but bagged cheese will work fine, it just won't melt as well. Once all that is done, you want to get your oven as hot as you can and stick your tulpa in! Depending on the thickness of your tulpa it may take a little longer or shorter for them to be done, so you want to check on them constantly! Finally, once the crust of your tulpa is a nice crispy brown, it's time to take it out of the oven! Let your tulpa cool for a few minutes and then they should be ready to enjoy!
  19. JUST DO IT Just talk to your tulpa Also don't make a sans tulpa, or Error will kill you
  20. Don't really know where to start with this question; it's a lot... I originally started getting into tulpae back in 2013, working with Aiden, and broadening into quite a few (what I would call) full Tulpae, and a few flickers of personalities that showed promise, warmth, and life. I began losing focus around 2015 (when I went to uni) and my group really fell by the wayside; I wouldn't be narrating like I used to, I wasn't able to meditate and force, I didn't continue doing storytelling to keep that connection strong (roleplaying with them through text with others/friends was a big driving force into their development). Suffice to say, by the time I graduated in 2019, the connections I had to my inner world (wonderlands and tulpae) were, more or less, gone. I've tried a few times to get back into it since I graduated as I've noticed that I feel somewhat alone or empty. When I try to narrate or comment on something, it really does just feel like I'm talking to myself and myself alone; That there's no-one there listening like there used to be. Is there something "special" I should focus on to rebuild these lost connections, or is it simply a matter of sitting down and trying to reenter a world that I can't really feel or 'see' that well anymore?
  21. hi :) my names Gregory, and I’m making a Tulpa ! :D this is to just track my progress, and such. im scared I’m doing things wrong,, I haven’t been getting responses from Evan lately. I just talk to him about my life honestly, I forgot the name for it in English but it starts with n? I’m native Spanish speaking, but I talk to Evan in English most of the time. I can’t talk to him often, I’m very busy almost always and have little to no free time. Whenever I can talk to him, I do, but I’m scared it’s just not affective, and that it’s been all for nothing. I’ve gotten one response from him,, so I guess I’m not failing completely.. - JUE ENE 2022
  22. Hi! im working with Evan more, but I’m having a hard time with active forcing. I was wondering if anyone has ways they get around this? I read that active forcing is rlly important and I want to make sure I put in as much effort as I possibly can!! :0
  23. First I'm sorry if this was already asked, I'm not always the smartest person ever. But anyways, I really want to active force with my tulpa but I just can't focus. Like, for me active forcing is really boring and I always space out and start doing something else. So I was wondering if anybody has any techniques for active forcing that are more like games? And I have seen some people posting their methods that are more like games but my tulpa normally isn't independent enough for those. But my tulpa can kinda speak (we are really focusing on vocality atm), they have formed some of their own opinions but for the most part haven't voiced any other opinions besides the fact that they hate girl in red, and that's all I can think of. I hope this is clear enough because this is my first post besides my introduction- ;-;
  24. You've most likely been there - you have woken up from a nightmare in distress, felt powerless being hunted down by some monsters. Or an intrusive thought has harmed your tulpa during forcing and you could not prevent it. Here we'll explore not only how to fix such mishaps but also how to exploit them to strenghten both your and your tulpa's forcing abilities, dream control and self-esteem. The concept itself is really simple. Whenever something bad happens in your imagination, be it in a dream or during forcing, do not dwell on it, especially do not worry about it. Do not feed it attention. Instead immediately replay the scene with your tulpa and change it to a positive outcome. You have protected your tulpa from an intrusive thought, no harm was done, they are perfectly fine. Your tulpa has easily beaten the monster which chased you in your dream and saved you. Be creative, any unpleasant situation happening in your imagination can be reverted and resolved. Adding a bit of humor may also not be the worst idea. You can even take this another step further. Woke up from a nice dream and feel bad your tulpas were not in it? Immediately try to replay the dream with them. The hypnopompic twilight state after waking up at least for us generally allows for more control than the swirling nonsense in the hypnagogic phase right before falling asleep. But also this state is worth inserting your tulpas and trying to exploit the extremely vivid visuals at least a little bit. There's no guarantee this will make your tulpas appear in dreams more often or help you to get better control over nightmares or intrusive thoughts but it's one of your best bets. The brain is generally lazy. It picks up whatever is convenienty there and tries to fabricate something out of the available chunks of memories. The more your tulpas are present in your mind before you fall asleep and the more both you and them are used to 'fix' unpleaant situations the greater the chance it may work out. At least it is definitely worth a try and also a fun activity to do with your tulpas. An afterword of caution Manipulating memories is a powerful techique and should strictly be limited to dreams and intrusive thoughts. DO NOT try to overwrite actual memories you have experienced, no matter how bad, create fake memories and treat them as real or replace the memories of other persons with your tulpas! If anything this should be done under the guidance of a professional to heal trauma but do yourself a favor and leave reality alone. Btw, this s not a guide, don't have the time to write up something detailed like that atm. But maybe someone else *coughlumicough* will. Let's brainstorm ideas here.
  25. Text by Wray is in black Text by Shizuku is in blue (Sorry, this wound up being pretty long! Feel free to skim, or if you want to read the whole thing, strap in!) Weird coincidence: I’ve written fiction as a hobby for a long time, and I think nearly half my protagonists have someone else to talk to in their heads. Somehow, I always found the idea fascinating. But I can’t say I ever expected to join them. Not until recently, anyway. We’ve been looking forward to posting this. It’s my first big chance to introduce myself to other people! Here’s a profile: Origin StoryTM October 2020. I was in quarantine, alone, and feeling isolated—Shizuku started as an imaginary friend based on a character I might have been (was) a little bit (totally) obsessed with at the time. I’m really into writing, so I didn’t have much trouble getting her to talk, even early on, though I assume she was mostly parroted at first. A couple weeks later, I stumbled onto the concept of a tulpa in Japanese, and quickly found my way to this website, which is kind of the launch pad for Japanese tulpamancers. (I found a good English rundown of the Japanese tulpamancy scene here, so I’ll leave most of that aside for now. If there are questions about anything specific, though, we can definitely do our best to answer them.) Compared to the English-speaking community, the Japanese-speaking one gives a lot more credence to tulpa horror stories. They call it 暴走 (bousou). The idea that if things go wrong, your tulpa might harm you, or the people around you, or try to take over your brain. To be fair, I think there are multiple schools of thought on this bousou concept, and these are only the most extreme examples—still, when I read about this, I couldn’t help panicking. I went out for a long walk. Tried to think things over. Was there a chance my tulpa would wind up that way? Should I turn back now? Or was she already sentient, meaning it was my responsibility to take care of her? Or was I crazy, in the first place, to even be thinking about any of this? We imagined that I stayed behind in our apartment, though I must’ve been somewhere in headspace the whole time. Maybe a wonderland version of the apartment? We didn’t know enough to ask that question, then. I couldn’t make up my mind, until the second I got home, opened the door, and realized how afraid Shizuku must’ve felt while I was out thinking about whether I should try to erase her. My heart sank through the floor. I did my best to apologize, though I didn’t know if it would help. She replied: “I was sad, but I wasn’t scared. I trust you.” Okay. If she had been afraid, or angry, I would have felt bad enough. But that packed a punch. That day, we promised each other that we’d stay together and try to make this “tulpa” thing work, for better or worse. Not to jinx anything, but six months later, “better” is definitely winning out. Our long-term goals (1) Become able to split fronting time 50/50 (or whatever arrangement winds up working for us). I expect it’ll be a long time before we can actually do this, but hopefully not too long—if possible, we’d like to get to this point within a year or two. It doesn’t necessarily have to be a 50/50 split, but I don’t want to feel like Shizuku is prevented from doing things she wants to do by us not being good enough at tulpamancy. (2) Learn to co-front and keep Shizuku active (as close as possible to?) all the time. We spend a lot of time together, but I still get distracted and forget to check in with her more often than we’d like. Eventually, we’re hoping she can stay around all the time (or whenever she wants to, at least) and get my attention whenever she has something to say. (3) Stay a two-person system, if possible. I know there are a lot of large systems out there who do perfectly fine, but my instincts say that it would be more than we could handle. Besides, I already feel like I love Shizuku too much for it to be fair to whoever Headmate Number 3 would be. 😂 I do have one soulbond-ish character (using the terminology from Bear’s PR) from my own writing. We’ve talked things over with her in WL, and she’s adamant that she is not interested in becoming a tulpa or participating in the system. (This checks out with what I know about her character, too.) If things change, there’s a slim chance that she might join us, but I doubt it. Either way, I can’t imagine us going any further than that. (4) Help Shizuku find life goals of her own, and figure out how to rearrange my our life so that we can both do what we want to do. At the moment, we’re just doing regular forcing to try and help her grow as a tulpa. The vague plan for this one is to eventually learn how to switch, accomplish goal number (1), and then let her follow her interest and try a bunch of different things. Current forcing practice Working on senses in WL: we’ve been doing our best to spend an hour each day focusing on visualizing Shizuku in wonderland, and also practicing one other sense per day. Wonderland sight and touch have started to show some improvement recently, but overall it feels like we still need a lot of work. Conversation: We also do our best to talk as much as we can each day. We’ve been working through the Tulpa Vocalization Practice worksheet when we can’t think of any other topics. Diary writing: Shizuku writes a diary entry most days. This is something I picked up from the Japanese tulpamancy community, though I think I’ve seen it recommended in English guides too. It’s a lot of fun—somehow, reading through the things she’s written (by proxy or possession, at this point, though our possession game is still pretty weak) does a lot to help me fight off doubt. Imagining Shizuku in stories we’re reading/watching: This has been pretty fun so far, too—right now, we’re rewatching Hunter X Hunter. As we watch, we try to keep up a “mental fanfic” where she’s running around with the main characters. Passive forcing as much as possible: Taking inspiration from the method I used to learn Japanese, I’m doing my best to find ways to involve Shizuku in everything I do. We’ve had some success reading, studying, watching things, and playing games together, but in particular, staying aware of Shizuku during work that I really need to focus on and conversations with other people has been a killer—I haven’t had much success in these situations yet. To anyone who slogged through all of that, thanks for reading! This post already goes on for a million years, so I’ll try to write some (hopefully shorter!) summaries of our progress so far in other updates.
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