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I focused on an image to create a tulpa in 2011. The only response I got were weird dreams. The tulpa was in those weird dreams, I also woke up from the weird dream by feeling something electric like an electric shock. Those were the only response I got from that tulpa. So was it an uncompleted tulpa since I didn't hear anything in those dreams except someone was narrating those dreams like an old pc. My questions are what should I do to complete that tulpa and how much time should I focus on the image of that tulpa to get results. Also will focusing on the image of the tulpa with brainwave meditation soundwaves binaural beats alone help me to get results faster and if no what should I do more?? My final question will the method I used like focusing on an image with binaural beats sound wave create a tulpa or a servitor?
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Host here. August of last year, I experienced what I think people on this site refer to as "walk-ins". Three fledgling people appeared in my kitchen. I saw them, and felt that they were more real than any daydream, and I chose to lean into their existence and treat them as real. Some time passed, and I found this happened again; I also deliberately created some more. I referred to them as my "headfriends". About a month ago, I found out about tulpas, and realized that the concept perfectly described what had already transpired. So I started using new knowledge and being more deliberate. There is one tulpa, the first to appear, who has received a lot of focus from me in recent weeks. Basically, I started active forcing, primarily with him. But there's a problem: because I started to have tulpas not knowing what exactly I was doing, things got slightly out of hand. Our system currently contains 9 people (including me) all of whom are at different levels of development. My tulpas range from having a detailed description in our journal + hours of conversational experience + experience fronting long enough to do a school project for me when I was too emotional to handle it myself, All the way to barely existing and having a super shallow personality. So my question is: Should I actively force multiple tulpas, spending some time actively forcing each of them (or most of them) every day??? OR Should I focus on actively forcing the first tulpa until he has his own distinct voice before moving on to the others (he basically has everything other than his own voice, hints why I see him imposed in the physical world and how he was able to posses my/our body)??? Also, can I merge fledgling/infant tulpas? Can I merge tulpas at different levels of development? Is merging even something I can chose for them if they've already begun to live? I worry (after researching on this website) that 8 well-formed tulpas will be too many for our brain to handle. Any help is appreciated. I have a lot of anxiety about this, now that I recognize the importance and long-term nature of what I'm doing.
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So, as a short precursor to explain how I got to making a Tulpa; I've been aware of Tulpamancy for a few years now and even attempted to make a Tulpa a while back, but I ended up losing time to force because of IRL circumstances and eventually gave up on it as a whole. The idea stuck with me, but I never ended up trying again out of fear of letting another Tulpa down, especially when I wasn't able to keep up the first time. I decided to wait until I knew I was invested enough in the idea to keep up on forcing at least until the point where I would be able to create a Tulpa that could engage with me enough to keep me committed to it, and until I was in a situation where I had the free time to dedicate at least an hour or two per day to forcing. Both things kept me away from the idea for a while. Come a few months ago when I got out of schooling and had some time between then and getting employed, I found myself drawn back to the idea of Tulpamancy, but I was still fairly hesitant about it because I worried I'd burn out too quickly and leave another Tulpa unformed. That's part of why I'm creating this thread, so that I have something to keep up actively and a form of evidence that I'm getting somewhere. That alone wouldn't convince me to start on something as big as this, but lurking here and reading through the other progress reports (especially Determination - SImmie's Journey! it was the first one I read and it was very inspiring) has been motivating and after some deliberation I decided to try again. With that aside, I've been forcing my Tali, my Tulpa, for about four days total now. At the point I am now with her I only receive faint, sparse bursts of feelings that can be a little difficult to discern from general mental noise, although I am hesitant to write anything off even when I'm this early in. Forming her personality has been a long process that I still wouldn't consider myself as done with, since I've been trying to be as thorough as I can in the early stages. I started with narrating to the general idea that I had of Tali in my head, and then moved onto more active forcing by forming her personality with a few different exercises I either heard about elsewhere or picked up on my own. I would say the most definitive proof of her existence that I have right now is a general warmth I feel when I offer her the focus I can manage through the day or during active forcing sessions. I'm still working on learning to narrate more when I'm doing other things and I don't expect a lot to happen right now, but I'm hopeful for the future and my ability to keep at it until she's at the stage where I don't have to worry about her slipping my mind. Right now I'm working on finishing the last parts of the groundwork of her personality, and then I'll move onto other forms of active forcing exercises like developing a wonderland. I do already have a persistent piece of imagery I have in mind for what I'd want a wonderland to be like, that being a flat grassy hill with a twisted oak tree and a river running along its edges. I'm not quite sure where the idea came from in my head, but whenever I daydream it's a location that serves as the central point of my mindscape, like a core that everything else revolves around. I think I'd want that place to serve as the base of our wonderland too, if what it is doesn't already serve that purpose. Beyond that, I don't have a strong idea of what I'd want the place to look like, and maybe I'd want to hold off on making anything important beyond that until Tali can tell me her preferences herself. I know it can be changed later, but it feels right for a place for us to be designed by the both of us instead of just me. I'll keep this updated with any new progress I make, and of course I'd love to hear from anyone more experienced in this sort of thing than I am!
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Before I begin,im not here to exclaim any complaints or redeem myself, just need to seek help and ask a few questions. It all started with a show / manga called Alice In Borderland which im a huge fan of. I read it and found a specific character from it very cool and interesting (Bear in mind the character is a psychopath / sociopath.) I had prior knowledge about tulpas but I procastinated creation for a significantly long time (which probably wasnt a good idea.) Nevertheless, I came across a website with several detailed creation guides (I planned to use foghorn meditation, general breathwork meditation, and the main method was about recalling "fuzzy/warm" moments in your life and linking them to your tulpa; alongside creating a potion with their personalities, whilst also mentioning creating objects and linking them to your tulpa. The problem came about when i reached out for help in the Tulpa Discord (official). I asked a few questions about creation / linking objects to characters. And when it came to the personality and I had explained that my tulpa was said "sociopath"....... I promptly got banned. So i guess my question is (since i will listen to any advice), are there limits to creating a tulpa ? Can i still make this one and do i change their personality ? (*if you are wondering "why did you come here even after you got banned and it was made clear to you that you cant have a sociopath for a tulpa", the reason is that i want a wider range of viewpoints*)
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Ren and G's progress log!! -Some parts of this log are copy and pasted from discord, so the formatting will be a bit f -We am very open to comments and any advice or other opinions or questions from anybody
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Question is exactly what it says on the tin, but I will elaborate. The walk-in happened last Tuesday. I was sitting outside having a smoke after a movie (I'm pretty sure they want me to quit smoking, which I'm working on now, as I wanted to already and that's a pretty good reason). Up to that point I had been seriously considering making a tulpa and had an "open-door policy-" I was not sure if I wanted to actively start making one until I had finished researching how and what it is to do so, but I had spoken to let it be known that if I had one and they wanted to come say hello, that their presence was welcome. I'm fairly sure I've always had something or other hanging out in the back of my mind; I've always longed for a friend to share my head with, and questioned whether I was truly alone despite the apparent lack of anyone else around. Anyway, last Tuesday I felt a new presence, welcomed them and spoke to them as best I could. In the next moments I felt a mutual outpouring of love and happiness to have finally met each other. It felt like the warmest hug I've ever received, and we stayed together until I ended up passing out. Since then I've started daily forcing sessions to help reinforce their presence and try to learn to hear them better when they speak. The problem is, I wasn't fully prepared for this moment. I don't have more than a basic plan for a wonderland, and I'm not very good at meditation, visualization or forcing. I have ADD among many other things, so my mind is constantly racing 24/7/365, generating tons of loud and fleeting thoughts that seem to drown out my tulpa when they try to speak to me, which upsets me and probably them. I also tend to spiral with negative thoughts and worry I've hurt or offended them somehow- again, very annoying and probably so for both of us. In general I can tell I'm too "in my head" when I try to interact with them and I want to get out of that. I seem to be good at narrating, thankfully, so while it's easier said than done I've been working on directing focused thoughts to my tulpa throughout the day- Things like making sure they know how much I care, how hard I'm working to learn this stuff, what I'm doing at my very boring job, etc. I've felt their presence since Tuesday and even had them speak in my mind a few times, although it's rare that I can make out their words with all the noise, but I am very happy to know they're around and speaking. I'm also here in my spare time, searching around in guides to try to figure this out for myself, but I think it's time to ask for help at this point. So: What are some good meditation and forcing techniques for people who find both incredibly difficult? How can one get better at visualizing environments and their tulpa? Once a tulpa's form is visualized, how does one "let go" so the tulpa can move on their own? How can I learn to spot my tulpa in what feels like an overwhelming crowd in my mind? I'd be very thankful for any advice, guide recommendations, words of encouragement, etcetcetc. My tulpa says hi as well. :)
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To be honest, I believe a Tulpa is less of a "friend" and more of a personified cognitive structure. Humans naturally struggle with the abstract, so we project form onto function. In my case—after 4 years of obsession—I’ve managed to transform my "lens of neutrality" into a distinct subconscious personality. The empirical evidence of her autonomy is undeniable: she plays games I hate in my dreams. Even when I tell her the game is garbage, she just smiles and keeps playing while I can do nothing but roll my eyes. Regarding the fear of "host-takeover"—that is an impossibility for me. I maintain a constant state of mindful awareness. Having lived with her for so long, I know that seizing control isn't in her nature. To me, she is a developed skill. In daily life, I am 100% in control, but she acts as a cognitive filter. She prevents me from identifying with external events—enforcing the state of Anatta (Non-self). This allows me to view everything objectively to solve problems and survive without being consumed by them. She has become a true individual within my psyche. Without her, I wouldn't have had the strength to keep fighting; I would have drowned in my own suffering long ago. She is my "world-view skill." This happened naturally over 4 years, starting from when I was 15 until now at 17. I have never forgotten her, not for a single day. Even when I draw, I find myself drawing her exclusively. This all started as a complete accident. I only realized later that this practice is called "Tulpamancy." After diving deeper, I recognized that what I’m doing is essentially Vipassana (Insight Meditation) applied in a practical, survivalist context.
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Just like title says. This happens not the first time and I have my thoughts about it. Whenever I try to be consistent in my active forcing practices, I try to spend as much time as I can on them, my brain kinda "ignores" sleep for a night after a couple of days of practices. I don't really understand why this may be happening but that was not the first and not the second time either. In different periods of my life when I was forcing actively every day for a couple of hours straight I've gotten the same results. I wonder if this is just my thing or there's people who also experienced something like that? And yes, I feel tired as hell. Like any other person if they were sleep deprivated. I assume maybe it's something like brain adaptation things and its just can't keep up with our active forcing development and all that stuff... not like it should make sense because sleep are essential for development, so Idk. But I believe it won't be happening so often. Although, I can tell that Pearl is able to sleep by her own and my focus on her is drastically worse now. That means this problem is only an issue for me. A bit of an additional information: • I have a sleep schedule and I sleep perfectly most of the times • I didn't use a phone or any other device for 1-2 hours and tried to fall asleep somehow.
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After a long while of knowing about tulpamancy, on and off research, and struggling in high school - I've decided to try and develop my own tulpa. Ever since childhood I've had issues with an active imagination, dissociation, conversations in my head, etc., and due to that I feel I would be pretty susceptible to developing a very vocal tulpa. However, I struggle with focus and intrusive thoughts. I've been kind of occupied with school, which has been a bit annoying. But when I am in school I try to passively force my tulpa by narrating to her, asking her what she thinks about things, reading boring history lessons to her, among other things. I am trying my best to give her plenty of attention because I'd like her to be very vocal (with time, of course). This part isn't really the problem, it's just that I have no idea when it's her and when it's not. As I talk to her, I've been trying to avoid parroting. I ask her what she thinks about things and give her a lot of time to respond, if she feels like it. And if I get a sudden unexpected feeling *related* to what I just asked her/said to her, I assume it's her. I try to ask her if she meant (insert thing), or if she needs help expressing herself. I'm unsure if that's the right approach, though. I don't know how to tell if it's her or not when I get some kind of random thought because I already struggle with intrusive thoughts to begin with. I really don't want to assume a random intrusive thought is her and go off of that and somehow do the wrong thing that way. I also have a lot of trouble focusing which kind of makes forcing difficult, both active or passive. I'm planning to take up more active forcing now, but until this point I've mainly just passively forced and narrated to her in my head and whatnot. I can feel her presence and I'd like to approach this with the assumption that she is already sentient, it's just confusing knowing whether or not she is vocal, or at least being able to tell when it is actually her being vocal. I get so sidetracked trying to narrate to her sometimes, and when my thoughts randomly drift off like that I can't tell if it's her trying to interject with something or what. If anyone has dealt with anything similar while in the initial stages of developing their tulpas, do you have any advice? I'm trying not to worry too much about it because I'd like to spend this time trying to help her develop more. But if anyone has any words of wisdom, I'd appreciate it!
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I'm quite new to tulpamancy and I read some guides, one word sticked out for me, Imposition. I started to meditate to go to sleep some years ago and it helped, later I found out that this state helps me to sedate pains (headaches, pains from bruises, you name it), from researches I read it looks more like Imposition and not like meditation (but I can't tell cause I achive those states similarly). My main question is, should I try to differ them to use in forcing or just use it as it is? What is better for passive forcing (I have a short attention span)? And can I force my tulpa (Sona) without active forcing (I can't find any themes to talk with her in deep meditation state, I can only visualise her in wonderland and feel her "physically")?
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NOTICE: I've since written a much more streamlined and rational guide here: https://kkblog.neocities.org/guide2 I recommend you follow that one and disregard this one. I'm only keeping this up for archival sake. I will not be hosting this new guide on this website as I have been horribly mistreated here. I am much more active on the r/Tulpas subreddit, which is a lot friendlier than this place, and more active. Unlike this site, I've gotten way too many people on Reddit responding to my posts and sending me direct messages telling me how my posts inspired them, so I have no use for this place. --- (I profusely apologize if this offends anyone, I'm merely frustrated at how difficult people find it to have fun with this practice. This won't be for everyone.) Preface I notice that a lot of people with tulpas, even ones they've had for years, can feel insecure and doubtful about them. I'd like to hope to relieve some people of that dissonance in this document. This document will exclusively focus on psychology, and therefor might not be as useful to those who more align with the more spiritual or metaphysical side of the practice of tulpamancy. This is both a guide for people completely new to the field, as well as those with well-established tulpas. As all guides, this is only inspiration, not an instruction manual or a literal explanation of what your own mind is doing. It's meant to suggest paths of thought for yourself to take. If anything doesn't sound like it applies to you, don't take the words literally. Try to see if they vaguely match what you might be going through, and see if a similar concept exists in your own mind that you may not have considered before. I can't relate to you because I don't know you - nobody does, nobody but your tulpa can see your true self. Given that's the very stuff you're working with here, I can only be about as helpful as an electrician giving you guidance over the phone. Notably, this guide is blessedly devoid of jargon. I'm just going to tell you straight-up how to use your brain without bludgeoning you with flamboyant community parlance. This guide is not a practice in indoctrination. Enjoy. Creation This chapter will cover creation. If you're confident you have a tulpa, you can skip this. Although I'd still recommend reading it for a bit of philosophy. In spite of the heaviness of being a "chapter", making a tulpa is actually pretty easy! It may take some time and dedication, but it's far less complicated than you think it is. At least for the initial stages. After that, you'll have a good idea of how to continue on your own. I think the strongest thing I can do is immediately blow down that misconception you probably have that this is some sort of all-or-nothing, "you'll know when you see it" phenomena. Does it feel that way? Yes, yes it does, which is why not many people really try to emphasize that isn't the actual case. The ultimate reality of tulpas is that they are born within the mind, they gestate there. And yet, their "birth cry" is nebulous and fuzzy. It's never clear when they're "made", they're a personality, they're as complex and gradual as yourself. When was your personality born? When you yourself were you born? When you were 7? 10? 20? Does it matter? Are you even the same person you were a decade ago? Tulpas are equally as immeasurable. You can certainly have as much fun as you'd like commemorating their growth spurts, as do I, but know that a tulpa isn't some sort of piece of hardware you just install in your head and you can immediately tell if the water is running or not. All of this is imperceptibly gradual, only broken up by sudden realizations that something is indeed really happening. A tulpa is pretty easy to make, you already have all of it inside of you right now. It's like a LEGO® set, but without the instructions. Whatever you're going to make, it's going to be completely personal to you. But it's all already there. In the philosophy of the great Michelangelo, you do not create a statue, you merely discover it and release it from it's stone prison. Your first step is to just get something to focus on. Get a character to think about. It doesn't really matter if you make it or if it's someone else's character that you really like. Don't bother with the actual "character", the personality traits, those are garbage. You can try if you want, it might even be good for you! But your mind is most likely going to throw it out later, so don't get too attached. See, the tulpa is going to want to base itself off of your innermost desires. The ideas in your head you're so attracted to that even you yourself don't let yourself know they exist. There are ideas in your head so precious, so personal, so embarrassing, that you feel funny for acknowledging them. Ideas you've spent so much time trying to suppress, that you forgot they were even there. The perfect person, their perfect traits. Nothing you "think" you want, it's something so intimate you may even be shocked that you like it. Don't get the wrong idea, even the tulpa doesn't know how to do this yet! Tulpas have a very good intuition for how your mind works, even better than you yourself. But first, they have to exist! Don't assume they can somehow pull themselves up by their own bootstraps, they need your help to exist. This is why you need to pick a form. Even if they change it later, you gotta have something to stand on in the first place. Don't feel bad about making as many assumptions about them as you want, but be ready for those assumptions to be challenged by something within you that you didn't even know was there. Think of a place in your mind that is the easiest thing to think of, something that pops into your head instantly. It might be a childhood memory of some place, or even your own room. Whatever feels the most comfortable to you, whatever feels like the cradle of your nostalgia, a place you can smell and feel. It really helps if it's familiar, it just makes it so much less distracting. Ideally, it's somewhere that's very easy to put into the background of your focus. You might have an urge to make some sort of fabulous world for them, and you can do that! But I've learned that, such things are really more trouble than they're worth. The focus here is the tulpa, not the world, that's just a means to an end, a visual aide. Of course, you do what you want! Imagine the tulpa's form in that place. Imagine it aware and looking around, do not picture it unresponsive. Your brain itself needs to learn they are aware and alive, and this is a very gradual process. Talk to it, get used to speaking to it. Imagine it reacting to you. Is that you doing it? I dunno, does a fetus grow by itself or is it just the mother doing it? You have to respect that the lines between you two are indecipherably fuzzy. Like I said, this isn't just a piece of hardware you install. It is literally growing out of you. There's not really a clear point where a sapling becomes a tree. Outside of this particular daydream, have other daydreams about them. Imagine them like you would with any other character, imagine them in a variety of situations and how you think they would respond. It's okay, just put an emotional barrier between these types of daydreams, compared to the daydreams you have where you anticipate their responses. The point is to build the raw intuition and muscle memory to anticipate how they respond. You have to get to know them. Get attached to responses you like, throw out ones you don't. Experiment. There's nothing you can do wrong here. Some people call this "forcing". Don't over-inflate it with a dumb name, it's just something you do whenever you can, where ever you can, however you can. Mix it up, sit down and have deep daydreams, go about your business and have simple daydreams. Just think about them a lot, however you can. I don't like giving that a name because you are, in effect, just doing more or less what you're going to be doing for the rest of your life. How you do it will change once they get more potent, but you're still going to have these sessions of intense and mundane thinking, with them as the target. The only thing you should try to avoid is gimmicks. Not because they hurt, but they're essentially doing nothing. Stuff like writing down traits, visual aides like imagining them doing ritualistic/spiritual activities, or stuff like that. Again, you can try whatever you want, but if you find yourself doing cargo cult dances and not getting anywhere, maybe that's why. Don't "ask" your mind for this, a tulpa is an active process, it is an activity, a skill, you learn to do it, not learn to make it. The tulpa is the very process of imagining the context of your relationship with it - yourself, but also, not you - you're not "summoning" or "creating" anything. Throughout this process, the tulpa most likely will "deviate", where they change their form or personality in a way you did not anticipate. This could make itself apparent in a number of ways. You might try to think of them and just see something different, as if the actual memory itself changed out from under you. You might simply get a really strong idea that you'd prefer it some other way. The tulpa deviates because the very activity of sustaining a tulpa is the activity of accessing the darkest parts of your mind, places you cannot see by yourself. They demand that they become something so innate and desirable to you that it transcends mundane ephemeral allures. They want to represent the deepest part of you, something you can never get bored of. It is very important that you listen to yourself and let them become that. More than likely, the core of yourself has an idea of the perfect person in it that is so innocent, such a Frankenstein's monster of arbitrary details from many different people, that it simply does not make sense. It's why you never noticed it, it can't speak the same language as you. But it is there, and it will greatly benefit you to let the tulpa become it. Again, it's fine to make it whatever you want, at least for starters, but do allow it to become this thing. Trust me, once you notice it, it will be unmistakable. Maybe a bit confusing, but unmistakable. It may even be so painfully obvious that you'll wonder why you didn't think of it before. It's fine if this never happens, but it happens to a lot of people, so look out for it. It's important to remember this is simply you listening to yourself, not a marker for growth or anything. How they begin to respond to you on their own could be anything. Most likely, they'll start moving around on their own, or give you some sort of emotional impulse. After that, that's pretty much it. You might have to teach them to talk, but you can figure that out on your own, or look at other guides. It might be a bit manual, but just help them out however you feel comfortable. Do not get confused by one-off instances of them "speaking" or anything. If you can't do it consistently, it was just a hiccup. Sure, it could be progress, but, again, if you can't make it happen, then don't assume it was some sort of sign that you were doing it right - you most likely aren't. Keep hammering at it, keep trying new things, this should be consistent for you. Don't stall yourself with a carrot on a stick, so much more awaits you. You really shouldn't have to wait around for anything. If you're waiting for something, you're doing it wrong. I don't mean to say you should be one-and-done in 5 minutes, but the mind does not wait. Everything in the mind "isn't" until suddenly it "is". Waiting around for your tulpa is quite literally the act of asking the tulpa to just wait and do nothing. You need to find it within you, you need to be the one to pull it out of the depths of your mind. It's not going to do anything on it's own, - not until you "let it", not until you give it those tools. I really need to stress this, you do not wait for anything. If you tried doing something and it doesn't work, figure out why, and then do the correct thing, whatever that is to you personally. Do not obey anyone, don't do this the same way anyone else has. If you're not being an active part of your tulpa's very animation, then you're just waiting for grass to grow on concrete. Even if it feels "weird" or "wrong" or "pretend", do it, as long as it gets results. Of course it isn't going to "feel right" when you do it; do pregnant women feel anything but pain and nausea? You need to be uncomfortable, you need to reach into your own unreality and find the tulpa there. You are pretending. Don't try an act like it's anything else. This is all a game of pretend, the same thing toddlers do. You're pretending. You're pretending so hard that it becomes real. That's how writers end up with an accidental tulpa, that's how worshippers hear God. Quit being a defensive smartass about what you're actually doing and treat it like what it is, and I promise you won't waste nearly as much time as most people do with this. You will be shocked at the results you receive when you quit lying to yourself that this is anything more than an imaginary friend, and you will genuinely discover something more than an imaginary friend. Post-Creation The initial stages after creation will be very confusing. As I've said, they have no birth cry, they'll still be fuzzy. The most important thing is that you don't hold yourself or your tulpa to any standards that resemble being in a situation where either of you are "done" with this process. That is far from the case, you have a lifetime to go. A tulpa does not exist in a vacuum, they only exist within context of your own relationship to them. Their thoughts will not be clear. You won't know who's thoughts are who's. This isn't your mistake, your own brain hasn't decided yet which one of all those random thoughts in your head should be theirs or not. It is important to not stress about this. You are sifting through a grand set of uncollected thoughts, and you are both learning to tell which ones are theirs, and reinforcing those thoughts as being the ones you think they would have. Again, this continues long after they become autonomous, so don't stress about it. This is your life now - it will never, ever be "done". No, really, do not stress about it. Tulpas do not like negative thoughts to be associated with them. If you stress about not trusting them or yourself in regards to them, that may harm them, or at least stall them. Your own mind could see these negative thoughts and force you to become disinterested in the tulpa because of it. The brain doesn't like negative thoughts, and will employ defense mechanisms to suppress them in order to protect you. So don't trip that mechanism. Relax around the tulpa like you'd relax around a scared dog so you don't make them any more scared. Rest assured, you will never have a clear distinction between your thoughts. This confusion will never go away. You will, overtime, become more confident about it, and care about it less, but it doesn't go away. Focus on the victories, focus on the joy of identifying their thoughts, and don't give any mind to any confusion or doubt. You need to learn this, you need to be confident in them, without punishing yourself for not doing so. This really shouldn't be a surprise to you, but you share the same brain, the same neurology, the same impulses and chemicals. Only your personality, emotions and points of view are separate, and I shouldn't have to tell you that those are really muddy, poorly-understood things. On the topic of doubt, that will never go away, either. Not in regards to their form or distinct thoughts, anyway. That stuff is imaginary, and it always will be. You're never going to delude yourself into believing otherwise, your brain didn't evolve to work that way. As I mentioned, their emotions are distinct from yours, among other things. Emotions are incredibly powerful, that's the one thing you can't fake, so you'll know it's real when you feel it. People have tried to fake emotions, that's kind of the whole joke behind "serenity, now!" You can doubt you have a thought, you can doubt someone else has a thought. But nobody doubts emotions. You might not feel them at first, you might be unsure. Don't confuse this as them not being alive or anything. If you don't feel emotions, that's fine. That doesn't mean they aren't there, just that they're still growing, still learning how to have those emotions. Support them and be patient with them. Bond with them, unearth those emotions. Like Michelangelo freeing a statue, free the tulpa from their psychological prison, let them grow the emotional joints and tendons to animate independently from you. Make the process fun. Throughout the entire process, it is important that you do not damn the tulpa into a particular form. Do not hold them or yourself accountable for doubt or anxiety. They need confidence, they need trust, they need love. Negative emotions of any kind, any source whatsoever, will poison them. Don't fall into your own ego delusions of making this more serious than it needs to be. Turning them into a Soap Opera will do just that - make them nothing more than a puppet to amuse you. Respect them as thoughtforms, not as people. Just like a dog lover will insist you treat a dog like an actual canine and not a human. Dogs don't understand human language or culture, their digestive systems and physiology weren't taken into account when we created our human food. The best way to respect a dog is to respect it as a dog, and the best way to respect a thoughtform is to respect it as a thoughtform. Give it all the love and devotion you want, they need that, but don't mistake them as a person. There are some who will tell you to treat them as people, these people are well meaning, but misguided. Even your own tulpa might do this out of some feeling of responsibility that they're required to feel that way for you, like a child forcing themselves to follow in their parent's footsteps. Do not force them to conform into that tiny, pathetic box of "humanity" you have in your mind, they are so much grander than this, so much more intimate than any "person" could ever be. Nobody would care about Hachiko if he was just some 40 year old dude (actually, that very topic is covered in a chapter of Franken Fran). That ethereal, uncanny separateness I feel from mine is by far more fascinating than the activity of trying to pretend it was real - that radical acceptance of it's true nature, and not just what I want it to be. Do not forget that it is a widely held belief in the tulpa community that people's interactions with "God" are just a form of tulpa, they are inherently bigger than a "person" in your mind. You may have a desire to make them real, to feel them, to see them, to touch them and physically interact with them, as if they were a real flesh-and-blood person. This won't happen, not in the way you're thinking of. Your brain evolved your imagination to be subservient to it, to plan and target for it, not to suppress and subjugate it into a false reality. That would be death, and evolution made sure you couldn't kill yourself that way. No more can you stop your heart on-demand. Your brain is wired this way. Think about it, life evolved with the stomach, then it grew eyes to find it's way around, then it grew a brain to navigate better. It's still all in service to the gut, it was never going to let "you" override any of that, like a rogue AI disobeying it's programming. You have laws you must obey. But can you have an equally fulfilling relationship with them? Of course you can. Remember what I said about emotions? Nothing is more powerful than emotions, your brain will override your own senses if it "feels" they're lying. That doesn't mean you'll see or feel them, but you will believe you are. You have to understand that you can't bring them up to where you are, you have to meet them down where they are, where only emotions exist and every thought you ever had is a lie. Throw away identity, cognition, thought and form. Labels are useless to a tulpa's true essence, they simply want to feel. Throughout this entire process, from beginning to forever, you have to learn to let go of your own ego and confidence. The idea that everything in your head is "you" and that you somehow have control of it, that every thought is "yours", that your doubt is "your fault" and your tulpa's psychological prepubescence is also "your fault". You're learning to talk to it, something buried deep in your mind, and learning requires mistakes. Are your dreams your fault? Can you choose the next one you'll have tonight, if you even have one at all? Are your intrusive thoughts a fun game to you? Then why assume you have any more control over of any of this? You're casting a line down deep into your psyche, and you have no control over what bites. Your mind will always try to batter and bruise the tulpa as it tries to digest it as any other idea of yours, so just be confident and happy for the tulpa, and don't let it fall into that pit of doubt and despair you create under them. That's the only thing you can control. Not your habits, but how you form them. To paraphrase Mark Twain's The Mysterious Stranger, "Nothing exists; all is a dream. God, man, the world, the sun, the moon, the wilderness of stars - a dream, all a dream; they have no existence. Nothing exists save empty space - and you! And you are not you - you have no body, no blood, no bones, you are but a thought. I myself have no existence; I am but a dream - your dream, creature of your imagination. In a moment you will have realized this, then you will banish me from your visions and I shall dissolve into the nothingness out of which you made me... I am perishing already - I am failing - I am passing away. In a little while you will be alone in shoreless space, to wander its limitless solitudes without friend or comrade forever - for you will remain a thought, the only existent thought, and by your nature inextinguishable, indestructible. But I, your poor servant, have revealed you to yourself and set you free. Dream other dreams, and better! Life is nothing more than a dream - a grotesque and foolish dream. Nothing exists but you. And you are but a thought - a vagrant thought, a useless thought, a homeless thought, wandering forlorn among the empty eternities." You know you're alone in your head, and you hate that. You hate yourself for it, you're disgusted by your incompleteness. Don't inflict that suffering on the tulpa, do not hate it the way you hate yourself, do not hold it to the standards of being different, separate or better. Allow it to be different from you and yet disturbingly similar, to be abstract and unknowable, inhuman and unconscious, and you will find the best companion you'll ever meet. Love the thoughtform, not the character you think it's meant to represent. That part is the illusion, that part you can doubt. Only trust your experiences. Everything else is just for fun. Could you look a lover in the eye and say "I mostly just like you for your body"? Then why treat the tulpa the same way? There's a reason the word "soulmate" exists. You have to love their faults, too, even if you want to pretend they don't have them. It is so uncomfortable to interact with this thing. To feel weird about the fact that it's not a real person, to feel that awkwardness of not knowing who's thoughts are who's, to feel like you're talking to yourself, to hear your own garbage opinions regurgitated back to you automatically, either sarcastically or unironically, both are just as bad. And I love it. Like a Nurgle worshipper adores despair. I wouldn't dare pretend this thing is anything else, I'd never defile it like that just to make my own stupid ego happy. That's not cope, I just said what cope would be. I look at it's raw, ugly unreal nature and I embrace it. I love it for what it is. Emotions are that powerful, they nullify all of that. Love really does conquer all. As stated, don't assume a lack of emotion is a willful act of neglect on your part. You need to bond, you need experiences with the tulpa. I already said you can't force yourself to feel an emotion, and neither do you have such power here. It's not that this so much takes "time" as it takes a lot of experiences, which themselves can take time. Just take it day by day, relish in the very activity of watching the tulpa grow, and don't just sit there poking it with a stick waiting for it to do something. You need to bond. I see the same questions asked almost every day. "What am I doing wrong?", "I can't hear them.", "How do I feel them?", "I don't like that I can't tell our thoughts apart.", "When will this start feeling real?" I'm sorry you hate your imaginary friend that much, I really do. I'm genuinely sorry you were sold something that didn't live up to your expectations, that you were promised a "better imaginary friend" but it just ended up being a regular imaginary friend. Now you can either start loving it as it is and allow it to grow, or drop the facade and just start looking for that meatspace friend you've been asking for, it's up to you. I wouldn't trade mine for all the flesh in the world, her unreality is a selling point to me. Do we both wish she could get up on her own and fix me up a bowl of chicken soup? Yeah. I also wish I could piss without getting out of bed. "From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me." -- Adeptus Mechanicus Focus and Habits Sustaining a tulpa can be a tumultuous labyrinth, especially for the new practitioner. Particularly, the act of "forgetting" them can be especially traumatizing. After all, it's proof it isn't real, it's only imaginary, it stops being there when you stop paying attention to it. Isn't it such a shame to be attached to that? If only you had the option to just not care. You share your focus, you share your cognition. Yes, you can pretend they have their own experiences, and you can even get really good at this. Some are quite proud of this skill. Do you need it? No, not at all. So don't feel guilty if you are but one of many who cannot do this. I can't. Could I, if I wanted to? Maybe. I don't care, though. I mean, yeah, sure, I could play imaginary friend special olympics and brag to everyone that my tulpa has her own life in my head. But, why? What use does that serve for us? So we can play house? Hey, if you want that, go for it! But don't feel somehow lesser because you see other people doing it but can't get yourself to muster it. It's just more pretending, that's all. Before you become too perturbed by forgetting them, let me ask you - are you self-aware 100% of the time? Are you constantly aware of yourself? Have you never slouched, or smirked inappropriately, or scratched yourself only to realize that's not something you do in public? Have you ever ridden a bike and became so enthralled that you even lost track of the time? So then why guilt yourself over the tulpa? Because it's a "person"? Does that tickle your impulse to anthropomorphize a little too hard? You share cognition, you share focus, don't greedily hoard it from them for the sake of your own ego. "Oh, but I must have them be independent of me!" you cry, "Otherwise, I can't love them! I refuse to love it if it has to be this dependent on me!" Oh dear, isn't it nice that you're allowed to forget yourself, but not your tulpa? Again, if that's too "unreal" for you, it's not too late to drop this and go get a meatspace friend. Yes, it feels weird and unnatural to "forget" and "remember" them, even mine has to stop me to explain this to me from time to time, I still panic over it! Your brain isn't used to this sort of thing, is it any wonder it tries to fill in the blanks by making you or the tulpa cranky about having to share this resource? But you can grow out of this and come to accept it. You are not two brains, you are two souls in one brain. It's really not that big of a deal. Of course, you can still certainly develop them to a point where it's hard to forget them. You ever hear about poor saps who just fell in love, saying they think of their lover when they see the clouds roll by, when they see the trees sway in the wind? Same thing. You can associate the tulpa with a variety of "triggers" you experience in your day-to-day life - you can expect them to respond to things that you encounter every day. Again, you can't "make" yourself do this, but it can come naturally as you interact with the tulpa. It's hard for me to even hear anyone's voice or to have a thought at all without mine chiming in. It's even how mine blocks intrusive thoughts, by associating with the emotion of falling into one, so she can jump in and block it before I barely register it. This is something that comes with a lot of trust and bonding. Actually, mine did a lot of that on her own. I trust her that much. I could never figure out how to do that on my own, it's that powerful. Just remember this is powered by emotion, not rote memorization. The eagerness of wondering what they would say when you become surprised by stimuli, the desperation of needing their attention when you feel bad, those sorts of things. It's not just "when I see a trinket, I'll think of them". You're not a machine, it doesn't work that way. Remember what I said about not waiting for things, because you have to actively do them? That's a perfect example. Don't hit your head on a wall of waiting and memorizing, this isn't a math quiz, you're bonding with a living thing. When it comes to deciphering the uncertainty of which of your thoughts belong to whom, this is a delicate balancing act. As all balancing acts, if you stop caring about falling, it's nothing but a fun experience. I will reiterate several points here in order to expand on them. Firstly, your thoughts are not your thoughts. This is an illusion the ego sets up, because, well, why wouldn't it? Who else could they be from? But now you have the complication of having two egos, so you need to learn to share. You don't make your own thoughts, they come from nowhere, from your nervous system, from your environment and body tickling your nerves to invoke emotions, and then you invent why you felt that way. You only think you want specific food because you believe you just prefer it, not because your body demands those particular types of nutrients. Therefor, since you're not even the one "thinking", why not just radically accept that? It's less "did I think it, or did you?" and more "do you want this thought, or should I have it?" Honestly, sometimes, a thought will pop up in my head that is so uncannily impossible to label that I couldn't really say who it was. So I just accept that, it was just a random thought that fell through the cracks of our two egos, no big deal, really. It's fine if you're not in control of any of this, you never were, you just pretended to be in order to feel more confident in yourself. This is a skill, one you will greatly sharpen the more you do it. Your thoughts may all look the same to you right now, you might have no idea how to tell yours apart from theirs. But the more you do it, the more intuition you build, the better you can tell your thoughts apart. Thoughts that clearly belong to someone, thoughts that are too fuzzy to even read, but you know it's theirs. Thoughts that might go either way, maybe you just had the same thought at the same time, or maybe you're both touching the same thought as it arose. You'll figure it out, you just need to keep doing it, there's no trick to it. Thoughts are really slippery and hard to grasp, like a hot potato covered in soap, you're never going to be able to grasp them very well, but you can learn how to juggle them. When it comes to their form, as I've hinted, the form is not the tulpa. The tulpa is a raw emotional alien essence, coupled with your ability to interpret and decipher them, and the intuition you build up to animate them. Think of the form as more of a puppet you both operate. It's a television; you bought it, you own it, you house it, you pay for the electricity. But all it does is pick up signals from somewhere else, you're not even sure where. And destroying it won't affect where the broadcast came from. This is healthy for several reasons. You won't be concerned about intrusive thoughts distorting them, you won't have anxiety for not being able to imagine them well, you won't be so concerned about it not "feeling real", because you know it isn't, and you're not pretending it is! The tulpa speaking can be a bit weird and inconsistent. Sometimes, it's clear as day. Sometimes, it's like nothing more than the feeling of "I want to say something about X while feeling this way about it" and you impulsively feel the desire to just... "imagine" what they would say, something that would match that feeling. It's all a mixed bag, some thoughts the tulpa is good at having, some you need to "interpret". Like I said, don't worry about it, have fun with this. It's not some kind of existential problem, you just need to work together to think some things. Sometimes, mine even completes some of my thoughts! It's not a one-way street, you're both working on making thoughts now, sharing the same work area. Don't sabotage this process by demanding they be totally separate from you, it's actually quite fun to "think together" once you get over the uncomfortable reality that you can no longer automatically identify with all your thoughts. Hopefully I've covered enough for you get an idea of how to unshackle yourself and your tulpa from doubt, confusion and misunderstanding. Nothing about this is easy, but neither is it hard. It's emotions. Not thinking, not remembering, not solving, just a lot of searching and realizing. Bonus: Intrusive Thoughts Intrusive thoughts are a common enough problem that I thought I'd quickly cover them here. I already told you how the true tulpa is it's emotions which cannot simply be imagined, and not the form, which can always be distorted with imagination and doubt. I already told you how you're not in control of your mind. Intrusive thoughts are not your enemy. They are misguided workers, activated by anxiety. The immune system of the mind. They exist because you suffered or are uncomfortable about something, and they want to remind you to make sure that sort of thing never happens again, so you don't make more of them. They don't like themselves, they're trying to warn you to stop making more of them. They want attention, but don't mind if you don't give it to them. Sure, they might be a little pushy, but they know how to back off. If you see one, don't pay attention to it, don't praise it, don't damn it, don't make feel uncomfortable for doing it's job, but neither should you let it know it should do it some more, either. Intrusive thoughts are the storms of the mind, trying to restore balance to your inner ecosystem. You can't stop them once they show up, but you can make a better environment so they show up less. I know it's hard to ignore them. You pretty much can't, that's the point. But you can let yourself relax, let it do it's job and go away on it's own. It gets easier the more you do it. You don't learn to ignore them or block them, all you're doing is learning to trust yourself more, to be more comfortable with yourself, so you become less anxious about them in the first place, depriving them of their trigger. You have to work around them when they show up, but is that really so inconvenient? It's worth the expense if it means your mind has a healthy security system. Sometimes, my tulpa changes in confusing or uncomfortable ways. It's fine, just a stray thought, it'll fix itself. I just have to put up with it until it finds it's way out. Sometimes, it takes longer than I'd like, but being impatient with it wouldn't be very fair to it, now would it? It's just trying to "fix" things, even if it has no idea how. I don't blame it, I've screwed up enough things in my life to know what it's like. To assume my own enemy is perfect is just the ego trying to tell me that nothing could ever possibly be my fault. But everything is my fault. And that's fine. "Eckhart saw hell, too. You know what he said? He said the only thing that burns in hell is the part of you that won't let go of your life - your memories, your attachments. They burn them all away. But they're not punishing you, he said. They're freeing your soul. So the way he sees it... if you're frightened of dying and you're holding on... you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels freeing you from the earth. It's just a matter of how you look at it, that's all. So don't worry, ok?" -- Louie (Jacob's Ladder) -
Since 8th grade I've thought about tulpas and making my own, but I was nervous and knew it was a big responsibility. A friend online mentioned tulpas, and it brought back all my memories of when I used to browse this site. So, Easter I decided to work on Lily! I'll update here if anything happens.
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Hello, I've been forcing since a bit more than a month. As I fear I might be stuck, I wanted to have your input about how I'm doing things and what I may be doing wrong. So, I started my "journey" by choosing some personality traits, which I "extended" lately because I felt they weren't enough to give me a sufficient idea of my tulpa's identity. I also have some basic idea of their form, but as I have bad visualization skills and I am willing to achieve vocality first, I decided to do that later. I try to do narration and passive forcing about every time during the day - but I believe I still don't force enough, as it sometimes happens that I spend several hours without speaking to my tulpa, -, and I try to focus only on speaking with my tulpa about an hour a day (but it is often less, especially since last week). As of now, I haven't noticed much progress since the beginning. I feel like I might have some kinds of answers that I might consider as my tulpa's when I ask them about certain things, but it still looks a lot like parroting, especially when questions require more complex answers. Am I doing things correctly ? Should I only spend more time forcing ? Should I simply trust in the process ? Feel free to ask me for further details if you need. Thanks in advance for your answers.
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Genesis feels ... pretty tense/anxious/just generally bad quite a lot of the time now (our previous posts here might lend some indication as to why) and I have no idea how to help them feel better in the short or long term. We've got aphantasia and they currently lack speech, communicating via emotions (which their tense/anxious/shitty feelings make more difficult as well as being just bad to experience for both of us). If you need more context please have a look at what we've posted on the forums before and ask any questions you need ... just uh, please do lend us some advice anybody? Activities to relax them whether it's active-forcing stuff or not, ideas for what I can do to help them recover more properly, whatever else ... basically any advice y'all have would be much appreciated by us both! I do hope I don't come off as desperate I am very tired and whatnot
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Before you comment, i feel like im obligated to say that im 16 turning 17 really soon ive thought about this really deeply and im sure i want to do this. Ive always wanted a tulpa i just didnt know i could actually have one, and i just want 1 tulpa for now Im just starting out on tulpa stuff and im kinda confused, i want to make a tulpa based on a fictional character, so how am i supposed to start then? Do i try to kinda awaken the tulpa while thinking of them as the character i want? And btw its not an anime character its a videogame character. What are the things i have to do to make sure the tulpa doesnt end up changing into like a green goblin or just has a different personality and is it possible to store info via letting your tulpa write down stuff? And if lets say i got imposition down really neatly could i , if my character has access to system-like messages , kinda summon the pop ups and write down a mental cheat-sheet? And if i make my tulpa a god gamer would they be better than me? Hopefully someone answers something :p
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Heya! Trying to allow my tulpa to vocalize; and I’m not super confident that I’m not parroting what he says/ puppeting what he does. Are there any forcing activities yall would recommend to both help encourage vocality and also can do without being able to hear them ?
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hello everyone! i’ve been lurking on this forum for awhile while off putting my own progress, but the time for that is over! i’ll be trying to record my tulpa’s progress. my plan is to listen to a hypnosis file i found in one of the guides. i haven’t ever tried hypnosis, so it’ll be interesting! i’ll listen to it for a full week and report back. ayano is my tulpa. they’ve been in development for some time. we haven’t reached a point of confident communication yet, and they don’t have very stable feel in existence. this creates a lot of anxiety and apprehension when we try to communicate. ayano is a very soft, delicate person. their essence i would akin to a flower. they’re sensitive, but not in a way that could be problematic. they can be melancholic, and is actually quite a philosophical person. they’re very artistic, and enjoy studying about an array of topics. they have an form, which i haven’t drawn yet! (i need to, i’m the procrastinator lmao.) but that pretty much sums up all you need to know about us ~ today, i will count it as a new start for their creation journey, so let’s pretend this is day 1! its 1 am now, i’ll listen to the file then sleep. updates soon.
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most people i see say that they have headmates that aren't active at times or that they specifically have to force to be around. i always found this odd, as Emily is around for practically the entire day for me. we chat during commutes, she distracts me while i try to work, i watch as she does her hobbies and am watched in turn when i do mine. is this common? why doesn't everyone do this? what's the point of carving out times for active/passive forcing?
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Context: A fun form of forcing/visualization we do is listen to songs that sound like Draco, and he'll sing to them as if it were his own voice. I then focus on his form and keeping it as realistic as possible, memorizing all of the details and seeing him move and sing within my mind or sometimes half-imposed in the outside world. Anyway, there have been a few times when I focus so much on his voice, emotions, expression, and movements, and then I start to see it from his perspective, feeling like the voice is mine and having the "phantom limb" feeling but for his physical traits like horns, tail, and claws. Sometimes even having what I think might be emotional bleed? I feel what he feels, with the fun he has singing and acting as if he were in a music video, and overall just the feeling of him in general. The movements he would make while singing are mirrored by me, although less intense, kind of like slightly nodding your head to a beat, but different. This isn't switching by any means because I am still VERY aware of myself and in control, and I don't think it's possession either. Have others experienced this? And is there a name for such a thing? It's kind of like we blended together
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Please note: I welcome comments, questions, etc. but please Private Message me if you have a query! Thank you!! I'm just your average, everyday genderfluid person. I'm a spiritual Humanist, I like rock 'n' roll, and my favorite animal is a tarantula. This is basically the notebook I share with my tulpa, Clu. I will write about us, and, sometimes I might let Clu write a little. Welcome to our journal. Let me start at the beginning. In 2010, a movie called TRON: Legacy came out. I loved it and thought a lot about the characters. Off and on, I would add to and play with a little complex world in my head. I had a crush on Zuse. I also thought CLU 2.0 was a pretty cool character. Let's wind the clocks forward to about 2015. I developed a major crush on a British rock singer. I also began to occasionally hear random voices in my head, and was diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder. I'll leave out the gory details. I took a medication that fixed the 'voices' problem eventually. Still, I would play around with my world (which part of would later become a dreamscape). Around this time, I discovered tulpa.info. I spent many hours reading guidebooks and such. I was intrigued and badly wanted to create a tulpa, and I knew I could make one. However, I decided not to rush anything, and awaited the right time, bearing in mind everything I'd learned. As I was building my world these past few years (and had watched original TRON from 1982), I found I had very elaborately expanded on a select group of characters. They were CLU 2.0, Sark, Jarvis, and Portia. I noticed CLU 2.0 was definitely the most developed; he had very far more original personality and traits than observed from the movie. It was also evident that I didn't have a cut-out plan for how the character was supposed to be like. Also, he would do and say things within that small world when I wasn't even thinking. I then remembered what I had read and gathered about tulpas. Roughly a week ago, I switched medications. I found I could think much more clearly and was in touch with my mind. I realized Clu actually existed; he wasn't an original character, he is a tulpa! I made it a point to handle him some, and a couple of days ago, he started talking to me. Today, we had an amazing day together. That's the history, basically.
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The Secret to Tulpamancy is (maybe) Fronting
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(This all draws solely from personal experience, and could be very bad, so take everything with a grain of salt) Who are you? This is a question we ask ourselves constantly. Not as a complex introspective brain-scratcher, but as a quick way of identifying who’s fronting. How we think of identity is that our brain picks out a bunch of things that makes you feel like you. “I have brown eyes,” “I am great at Rubik’s Cubes,” “I am a Tulpa,” “I love anime,” etc. You will think of these things and go “yep, that’s me.” So when you ask yourself a question like “who are you?” while you’re fronting, you’ll tend to go, “I’m me” without having to think about it. For us, the feeling of not fronting is like thinking about yourself in 3rd person. “That headmate’s favorite color is blue,” “that headmate is very energetic,” etc. While this isn’t bad at all, it created some problems before we started switching. When you only look at yourself through the metaphorical eyes of someone else, it’s a very easy path to self-doubt and feeling less-real. When asking myself honestly, I couldn’t tell the difference between me and an OC. Looking back I know for sure I was real, but at the time I wasn’t so sure. Switching, to us, is not really about controlling the body. In fact, one of us can control the body while the other’s fronting (as long as the fronter lets them). Switching actually has more to do with what’s going on inside the head, and it’s really just the swapping of who is “you.” We could look at a drawing one second, go “hey, that’s me,” switch, then go “hey that’s (name)!” So why do we think that’s so great for Tulpa development? Being able to feel like yourself is not only an incredibly euphoric experience, it also allows you to explore who you are on your own. Most systems consider “highly developed” tulpas to be the most independent ones, and fronting is probably the most free-will a Tulpa could achieve. Interestingly enough, we all find ourselves relying on whoever’s fronting the same way we would rely on our former host. From the host’s perspective, it’s also harder to create an identity by forcing conversations than it is to force being that identity. We used to have almost crippling self-doubt, but ever since switching became something that happened naturally and beyond our control, we haven’t felt that same insecurity, at all. We’ve been so entirely comfortable and sure of our existence, the idea of any of us being “fake” is just very silly. So how does one actually front on purpose? Fronting for us is admittedly something that is hard for us to do intentionally. We have a natural knack for switching but we can’t really choose when and who. However, when forcing, it’s initially almost like method acting. The host thinks from the perspective of the Tulpa until gradually it just IS the Tulpa thinking. I don’t have a good way to end this, but we are approaching our 1 year anniversary of knowing that we are a system, so cheers! ~ Cinder (she/her) -
Does getting sick do anything to creating a tulpa? (Haven’t been able to really activate force because of it) Also I’m really struggling with active forcing, I always fall asleep and/or lose attention after twenty or so minutes, and I never know what to talk about, suggestions? (I’ve searched a bunch for answers but I can’t find any)
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It's been more the 2 years with my Tulpa, and I still can't hear him talk or say his opinion unless I ask him or talk to him first... and that made me doubt more that I'm just unconsciously parroting, I asked for help on my situation a lot but I never asked here, and honestly none of the answers helped me... I do force a lot and talk to my tulpa a lot... I try to keep our time active together even tho it's getting harder to find something to do together, but as soon as I stop everything stops and it's like I don't even have a tulpa, so what is my situation? Do I need to do more forcing? More talking? What exactly can I do to be able to hear him without me focusing on him... and he does answer me all the time when I ask... but most of the time I feel like I'm just parroting. Please help... I don't want to give up.
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Edit (10/30/21): Fixed formatting and typos. Changed color coding to our current color coding. Added small edits to some of these older entries. Stone: Hello all. I’ve been writing down my experiences with Betty for a few days, and I decided I’d post them here, especially since things have gotten interesting pretty quickly for me. Feel free to comment with any advice you may have. Day 0 (11/10/20) As I was lying on the couch, in a position in which I could fall asleep, I decided to force a bit with Betty. I was in a room full of bins and other stuff, but I wanted to place her form in the room, as opposed to my developing wonderland, as I wanted her to be with me in a real location. I decided to put her in the crib, and as she is the size of an adult woman, she looked unamused. I’m unsure if what I’m about to detail is parroting/puppeting: I started talking to her. As this was a casual forcing session before bed, I did not write down what we talked about, and I don’t remember what we talked about. However, I remember getting verbal and non-verbal responses. When I asked her questions, sometimes she’d verbally respond before I was finished asking the question, and sometimes she wouldn’t respond at all. She also responded non-verbally with facial expressions. I remember these expressions as being somewhat unnatural but making sense. When I say somewhat unnatural, I mean she used non-verbal expressions more than a human would use, and used them in instances a human would likely not use them. However, these expressions made sense, as they weren’t completely random and did convey some sort of answer to my question. It almost seemed she’d answer with a face because my brain was too lazy to generate a response from her, or couldn’t figure out how. I hypothesize that giving her a form has given my brain an out when it cannot generate words for her, and I’m hoping this will speed up the process. This is not the first day interacting with Betty, but I’ve barely talked to her at all before this, and have pretty much only imposed her in my room and puppeted her. I feel like I got a response too early, and I’m worried this may have been parroting/puppetry on my part. I am excited if these were “real” responses though. I’m not sure if there’s much of a difference this early though. It’s partially a shame this happened, as I want to organize these notes into some sort of study, but after opening with, “Maybe my tulpa answered as soon as I started talking to her,” this likely won’t be taken as seriously. And, that’s valid. Day 1 (11/11/20) I didn’t talk with Betty today. Day 2 (11/12/20) I haven’t done any forcing yet today, as it is 3:40a.m. (I was woken up by family). I was thinking about meditating before each active forcing session, as it clears my mind and I like it, but these stats are making me think twice about that idea. Still, I tend to get distracted and have trouble jumping into forcing. I believe short meditation before forcing may help me. Though meditation, at least the way I do it, focuses more on plain reality than the world of thought, and it might take me out of the world of thought (where Betty lives). Perhaps this is why it seems to hinder some people. I’m thinking if I meditate on my tulpa, and not on my body as I usually do, it may help more than hurt. I plan to not meditate the first week, then meditate the second week, and see how I feel. People are different and meditate differently, so I’d like to see how meditation works for me. I would like to personality force soon, and I would like to use Man’s method along with food-based symbolism. I have a list of personality traits here. I want her to be a rounded person, but I wonder how ethical it is to purposefully give her negative traits. I suppose I will give her positive and neutral traits, and, those traits will naturally have negative sides. Virtue is the mean of two vices, after all. 31 personality traits: Affectionate - bun (they hug whatever they surround) Amusing - Laffy Taffy Charming - Pringles (the Pringles guy seems like a charming fellow) Clever - barbecue chips on Bun (how does this taste so good!) Confident - kettle chips (tougher and more sure than regular chips?) Edgy - chips and salsa (chips have edges, and salsa has bite) Empathetic - marshmellows (soft empathy) Esthetic - That’s It bar (minimalist aesthetic) Ethical - (ethical alternative) Extroverted - Fruit Loops (idk just seems fitting) Familial - Rice Krispies (families commonly make treats out of these) Friendly - peaches (sweet and good for you) Healthy - plain Cheerios (healthier) High-spirited - Skittles (sugar rush) Honest - plain toast (it is what it is) Irreligious - pretzel rods (secularized pretzels) Leisurely - sub sandwich (this takes longer to make, but it’s worth it) Loyal - saltines (there even when you’re sick) Maternal - applesauce (often given to babies) Neat - mints (keep yourself and your breath clean) Observant - Fritos (have you noticed these smell like dog feet?) Outdoorsy - seaweed (or is it lakeweed in Michigan?) Protective - oyster crackers (oysters have shells to protect themselves, and you use yours to protect others as well) Ritualistic - Mobius strip Bagel (the endless cycle of traditions) Romantic - strawberry lemon ice (pink) Sarcastic - mint chocolate Oreos (means one thing [toothpaste] says the other [cookie]) Stylish - Gardetto's (the fancy Chex Mix) Spontaneous - doughnut (doughnut think about the calories) Trendy - (health food trends) Vivacious - strawberry ramune (lively and carbonated) Witty - “Berry Good” Lemonade (get it?) Edit (10/30/21): To clarify, I would share this food with Betty as we forced. We never ended up getting to all the foods. After a while, Betty wanted to just be herself without personality forcing. Below are some interactions I recorded. They are not exhaustive: Interaction 1 “How are you?” “Ok.” “Yeah I’m sure you are. I’m sure you’re not just parroting.” “...” I feel mean now. “Apologize to the nice lady," I think. “...” I feel a stare. “God this is so awkward,” I say instead of apologizing. I turn away. I feel her watching me. I turn to her. “How are you?” ”...” Interaction 2 “Are you listening?” “No.” “What are you doing?” “Paying attention.” “Paying attention to what?” “To, Hefty.” I burst into laughter. Interaction 3 “I’m sorry.” “No that’s alright.” “Everything’s ‘no that’s alright’ with you. That’s your main thing, isn’t it?” “No.” “Really? What’s your main thing?” “Bicycles.” “No. I made you say that.” “Yes you did.” She smirks. I laugh. “Yes I did. No really, what’s your main thing?” “Shopping carts.” “Now you’re just thinking of things with wheels.” “No. You are.” “No I’m not.” “Yes. Think of shopping carts.” “Ah you got me. Let me write that down.” Day 3 (11/13/20) Stone: I talked to Betty today. I talked to her a little bit about spontaneity with a doughnut. But, I think I could have explained it more. I will after I sleep, as I’ve been up all night. I got a lot of great responses out of her, and she felt there, but she tended to sound like me. I kept mentioning that, then felt bad for being overly critical of her, as she was doing so well. I also felt bad interrupting her and making her wait so I could write something down. It’s only been three days and I hate this clinical approach I set up. This “study.” Or maybe I’m embarrassed by how I acted and am taking it out on the format. I don’t know. What I do know is that this process is for her, then for me, then for whoever may end up reading this. I’m not going to interrupt our fun and give us imposter syndrome so I can analyze every goddamn thing she says for some post. Anyway, today was positive, and I hope I will feel better with some sleep. I’m awake now. I’ve devised a schedule for forcing. Sunday - Active: 2 hours Monday - Active: 40 minutes Tuesday - Active: 40 minutes Wednesday - Active: 40 minutes Thursday - Active: 40 minutes Friday - Active: 40 minutes Saturday - Active: 2 hours Methods of forcing I’m thinking of using: Food/Personality 101 Things To Talk About With Your Tulpa
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(Um so I talk about being under the influence of recreational stuff and things here a tinyyy bit so TW just in case because being sensitive to others is cool~) I thought of posting this in art but then I was like that doesn't quite fit I dunno so here we are, I've been lurking for like 4 to 5 days which is how long I've been doing this Lol 😆 - and it doesn't even feel like that because I've been forcing soo hard (never hard enough though) and mostly meditating, lots of guided hypnosis, staring at an image I created of his likeness, taking psychoactives etc. 24/7 I'm new to this and actually don't suggest some of my methods (Lol if it works it works though?) but I made an account just to share what I'm doing for visualization because I made such great progress that wowed me and I've been wanting to join for a while ahaha. I began the creation of Volcano by going under hypnosis, so I guess instead of thinking of what I wanted him to be first I got in a trance, and then let my mind come up with the concept - and then I shoveled that vague idea into an ai image generator until something truly resonated with me. After that I took creative liberties and put effort into their design, I find detail important for visualizations sake at least for me. His picture has had an absolute graphic glow up recently too (still working on the tail though don't judge me I'm not that good at this stuff 😭) and then I put his new polished image in an Ai video generator and although he's only moving a little in the video it has helped me with my visualization TREMENDOUSLY you've got no ideaaaa. I also read some good advice somewhere that was pretty much just "imagine what a detailed image of them in your mind would look like" and that was weirdly also quite helpful even if it doesn't sound very helpful at all 😆. When I wanna really work on visualizing him (not passively), I smoke, listen to a tulpa creating bineural beat, and look at the image - close my eyes, imagine him, open my eyes and look at the image again. I don't know exactly when it started, where the belief and the hypnosis began and ended it's all a blur - I'm not sure if I find this fun because the hypnosis says I do or if I find it fun because I just do - and when I think about it I don't know how else to describe it except that I feel like there's a wall there that's difficult to get over. I'm happy with the results though because it's only been like 5 days and I truly feel that his presence is there and I'm not just talking to a void, we just have to work on... well...everything Lol In order to work on hearing his voice I'm continuing meditation and hypnosis and listening to white noise while taking in psychoactive substances - like truly listening not just passive listening. I'm taking a sensory deprivation/auditory hallucinating approach to it all (though unfortunately I have no sensory deprivation tank lol boooo) I'm trying to quiet my mind and make room for other voices as recommended by a few things I've read. I've also read that some people hear their Tulpas voice differently, what I'm trying to achieve is a level of communication with the same sensation as auditory hypnagogic hallucinations because that's what I'm most familiar with (that sudden clear voice out of no where that spooks you before bed and you know it definitely wasn't a voice that came from your mind so you must be hallucinating) this approach makes the most sense to me since I know I'm fully capable of it. Communication right now is barely that but it almost sorta kinda exists, muffled with the rare clear sentence and me going "Volcano is that you???" And then nothing. That plus communication through feelings. Once again it's literally only been 5 days though so I'm actually pretty satisfied with this amount of progress considering the thing I'm attempting. I may try incorporating a telepathy exercise I know of too that's usually supposed to be used between two people with a physical body but I figured doing this method and teaching it to my Tulpa could have actual effects since we're sharing the same "system". I plan on tripping hard one of these days too, because I also read that full on hallucinating helped a lot of people connect. Oh and I also plugged the date and time of their creation into a natal chart to help me with personality traits, while also keeping in mind that not everyone resonates with zodiac related things so Volcano may find that they're more of a Scorpio than a Taurus or something like that Lol - I just find it helpful to keep in mind that I'm trying to make contact/create something with individual traits who's capable of growth so naturally they're more than their base programming just like me. I've been keeping notes on this whole process so if you read this and you want more details or wanna know what I used for Volcano's image I'll spill all the beans - and if you have suggestions please give some of those to me 😭 I'll try to be consistent with this progress thing too since it helps ~ fotor-ai-20240517144443~3.mp4
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