Strange....(my theory)

[waffles]

It's not exactly a taboo, but it's still highly controversial. A quote from Wikipedia (which is backed by few psychologists that you can find in the footnotes part): "DID is the most controversial of the dissociative disorders, and among the most controversial disorders found in the DSM-IV-TR."

 

That doesn't mean that it's controversial to study.

 

I don't know if you just looked at the number that Google throws at you when you search for something and thought that is tons of scientific papers, articles and studies, but if you did then you should read this.

I flicked through a couple of pages of results, and clicked on a few at random. Seeing that they all seemed respectable, I saw that there were more than 15 pages of however many per page and reckoned it came to more than 15. Take a look at the results yourself.

 

 

But this person's findings also need to get accepted. Not to mention that you also need such people that tested it, you need them to test it in a controllable environment on some respected institute, but most won't want to do it because they could hurt their reputation, or else it will be easily dismissed just because of where it was done. Doesn't this make it seem rather hard to do, thus potentially explaining why there is so few good research on it?

 

But that's replication. Regardless of whether or not ESP can be replicated in other labs, this doesn't explain why there isn't one study.

[Purlox]

In the end we are just arguing whether or not there should be evidence of Telepathy if it exists. This doesn't affect whether or not Telepathy is actually present in humans on some level and I don't want to spend time just arguing about my opinion, so I'm leaving the discussion.

[Kadoh]

Look. I have legitimately tried, with no bias, to use telepathy. It didn't work. I am constantly around my friend who has two vocal tulpas, neither of us have ever heard, seen, felt the presence of or had any contact with each others tulpas, over four months.

 

Besides, physically, how are you supposed to influence particles using only thoughts? Psychokinesis is completely illogical. We evolved the ability to hear and see, as you interpret outside stimuli. Evolution doesn't mean you can just magically grow the ability to do whatever you want. Evolution can't give you the ability to move things without force or interaction. Evolution isn't magic.

 

I am somewhat young to engage in an argument like this I suppose, so if what I have said is wrong I am sorry. But my first statement is true, my friend and I have not succeeded in any of our telepathic experiments.

[Guest Dreagar]

I am somewhat young to engage in an argument like this I suppose, so if what I have said is wrong I am sorry.

 

Age matters little as long as you keep its effects in check. Anyone of similar age to us is prone to being mislead, which is why I only accept things that I can directly prove, and only then hold them true to an extent. Inversely, it is measurably harder for older people to formulate new concepts. It annoys me when people see physical age as above mental age, though.

 

The mind will prevail, regardless of cultural norms.

 

physically, how are you supposed to influence particles using only thoughts?

 

Its no secret that the brain is barely understood by scientists, and that it itself emits waves constantly. Besides, a better question would be how gravity works without a relevant particle :p.

 

 

I am not claiming it's waves causing it, that's just the best explanation outside of body language and quantum entanglement.

Then again, entanglement theoretically could be induced by waves, seeing as they function as particles in some cases~

 

 

 

Psychokinesis is completely illogical.

 

More so improbable. Please stick to the definitions though, because while on a subatomic level the two are theoretically the same (assuming wave explanation), the image that springs to mind from either's translation is very different. Besides, regardless of theory, almost any supposed psychic will agree that manipulating solid matter is far harder then telepathy.

 

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Relevant video of the power of electromagnetic waves; this post made me think of them :3

 

Neat summary here.

 

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Evolution isn't magic.

 

Evolution doesn't mean you can magically gain new abilities, but observing some of the astoundingly interesting, if not somewhat humorous young dirt Earth creationist's rebuttals at evolution does make one realise the process is exceedingly magical in a conceptual way.

 

Apologies for bad quality.

There was another video I wanted to link that explains how evolution does those jumps, where complex and seemingly irreducible organelles arise through re purposing older ones, but I my history ated it.

 

Regardless, cool to see someone who's adhered to the rinse and repeat aspect of experimentation, and for that I award one (1) respectz.

[oi-stein]

Besides, physically, how are you supposed to influence particles using only thoughts? Psychokinesis is completely illogical. We evolved the ability to hear and see, as you interpret outside stimuli. Evolution doesn't mean you can just magically grow the ability to do whatever you want.

 

Have you ever heard of the "Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser"? Not only can consciousness (thought) influence particles, it influences fucking reality.

 

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[Guest Dreagar]

 

Have you ever heard of the "Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser"? Not only can consciousness (thought) influence particles, it influences fucking reality.

 

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This Mod needs a medal. I love quantum uncertainty.

[waffles]

Have you ever heard of the "Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser"? Not only can consciousness (thought) influence particles, it influences fucking reality.

 

Video: MS Paint, the tool of greats.

 

That's not how I understand the experiment. The retrocausality is brought into effect by the instruments, not thought. I can't claim to have watched the whole video that you linked, true, but listening to parts of it seem to suggest the same thing as I had previously understood.

So, the photons whose origins are known don't cause interference, and the photons whose origins aren't known do. Now, what is surprising here is the apparent retrocausality, not this result specifically; this kind of thing has long been demonstrate in the simple dual-slit experiment.

 

One variation of the dual-slit experiment, more or less the original one, was to detect which slit the (here) electron had gone through before it hit the detector, usually with a photon. Now, this, of course, yielded the same results as above; when the electron's path was known, no interference pattern was recorded.

 

Of course, this was earth-shattering at the time, but decades on we've coped. It has nothing to do with thought, too. This is the important part for people who think this shows mind-matter interference: no-one's thinking anything here. The experimenters don't have to look at the electron's path at all and there will still be no interference pattern. The instruments do the collapsing here, and it is only the instrumental recording that collapses the electron's waveform - no thought involved.

[Avalanche]

*walks in*

 

>Retrocausality

>interference pattern

>electron's waveform

 

*walks out*

[Flexionsensor]

Science requires an initial observation and then a hypothesis, and a lot of testing to become a theory.

This metaphysical non-observed stuff cannot be argued against, nor can it be argued for. This is a philosophical argument here, but I'm leaning towards waffles, as waffles is on my spectrum of beliefs and, come on! He's named waffles for crying out loud! How can you deny anything he says?

It must be true.

[Guest Dreagar]

He's named waffles for crying out loud! How can you deny anything he says?

It must be true.

 

Yeah, he does Waffle on though~

 

Seriously though, where did your epic avatar go, buddy?