Sleep Paralysis Testing

[DashieFactory]

I mainly try it to see if it can increase my focus and concentration and then apply that concentration to other things, such as tulpaforcing. Also if it's real and works for me then hell yeah I'm going to keep trying it. It's a fun and new experience, basically.

[Allison the Tulpa]

Sometimes, Allison wakes me up in the middle of the night, and I almost always start to enter sp, but I always move before it takes over. I'm not scared, I just find it annoying.

[DashieFactory]

Sometimes, Allison wakes me up in the middle of the night, and I almost always start to enter sp, but I always move before it takes over. I'm not scared, I just find it annoying.

If you know the feeling of going into sp and it doesn't scare you, it is more of a nuisance than anything, yes.

 

[G: I d0n't get why she's s0 scared 0f a little paralysis. There are much, much w0rse things she c0uld get herself int0. Despite what she says, she's afraid.]

[Lacquer]

[G: I d0n't get why she's s0 scared 0f a little paralysis. There are much, much w0rse things she c0uld get herself int0. Despite what she says, she's afraid.]

 

Please don't type like that; it's painful and annoying to read.

[DashieFactory]

[G: That's how I choose to type, if it annoys you, oh well. I'll talk like normal so as to save your wimpy human eyes the trouble.]

 

Please excuse GLaDOS. [There's nothing to excuse.] She's... special.

[Ayanami_Sohryu]

Can this just be a fluent discussion about sleep paralysis without any side-tracking?

 

I don't think I've been in sp too many times.. I want to keep trying at it, I set my alarm an hour before I need to wake up as well but I've never tried going through it then. That seems like a good method.

[Spice]

I get some of the way to SP and then nothing happens. At all. Maybe I'm twitching and not realizing it, but I've tried for an hour straight and I can move my body any time I like.

Is this completely physical, or is it like hypnosis where it's best to 'accept' the changes?

 

cheers.

[Jun and Alexis]

Sleep paralysis is terrible. Because it's usually brought on by ignoring the roll signal to check if I'm asleep, my back aches like no tomorrow during sleep paralysis. I can barely resist moving and put all my focus on staying still or else it kicks me out even if I only twitch a few times (Because good luck moving more than that, even involuntarily).

 

I just use this for lucid dreaming since I haven't found much use for SP. I read that something in the brain usually flips the full-on fear switch once the SP is a few seconds in. If that doesn't happen, you're usually left with just intense discomfort to the point you can't force or concentrate anyway. I honestly can't even fill my lungs during SP. It feels like trying to suck molasses through a bent Capri Sun straw only harder, leading to an intense feeling of asphyxiation. I also fall into a dream whether I want to or not once SP hits my head. How can I remedy this?

 

It's kind of off-topic yet somewhat related, but if anyone's interested I also found a trick to (Somewhat) easily find your tupperware in the dreamworld via lucid dream from sleep paralysis. When sleep paralysis has almost completely taken you, simultaneously focus on both your vision and talking with your mindvoice to your tupper to ensure you don't forget your purpose as you will fall out of lucidity within what feels like 10 seconds of spawning in the dreamworld if you're not careful. If you can, use telepathy and ask your tulpa where she is as she will not likely be there from the start. If she either doesn't know because it's confusing or it just flat-out wasn't correct, move on. Do the usual "I will see her as I turn around this corner" thing as very next action for anything to take will usually be caused by even a fleeting thought. Failing that, impose her like you would in real life. I did this and got her about halfway solid before I lost focus on the dream and woke up. If that takes too long, find any other person in your dream and just stare at their face while you morph them into your tulpa with your mind (Really, it works).

 

Because the nature of dreams are delicate, especially when lucid, here are a few tips and suggestions for stability and such:

• Look at your hands, look at the extra fingers, confirm you're dreaming as you might get a false awakening that was really a dream shift.
  
• Reinforce your lucidity and dream stability by touching the ground, yourself, and anything else. The more texture the better.
  
• Reinforce the rest of your senses.
  
• All senses will diminish probably within a minute (Don't quote me on this but it might be easier the longer you're asleep) and the dream will crumble if you let it. You'll know when this is about to happen when you move your limbs and they either feel disproportioned or hollow (skin feels heavier than your bones, like an empty tube)
  
• When imposing your tulpa, it may actually be faster to do it behind you and tell her to pat your shoulder or walk into your vision rather than trying to bring her in completely by yourself
  
• You generally get unlimited continues if you wake. If you wake up for realsies, then just start over from the sleep paralysis stage. You'll wake up in it at least 90% of the time if you were already asleep.
  
• When falling from SP into LD, the sign to watch for is your vision changing from black to flashing imagery or colors/brief moving imagery to a full solid view, indicating you're now in the dream state
  
• If you're not using the Waking Back to Bed method for the first sleep paralysis, you'll have trouble getting into REM sleep due to REM only occurring about 2 hours after falling asleep. Remedy this by repeatedly going between SP and an OBE/dream for a couple hours (It feels shorter than it is). You WILL be kicked out of your dream if you're not close to REM sleep.
  

 

 

What exactly are the pros and cons of sleep paralysis to lucid dreaming? I've never been successful with SP doing anything but bad things.

[Guest Lanpc]

Sleep paralysis is terrible.

 

I've never been successful with SP doing anything but bad things.

 

QFT

 

 

What exactly are the pros and cons of sleep paralysis to lucid dreaming?

 

Lots of misinformation going on this thread. Sleep paralysis and lucid dreaming cannot be compared. SP is only a marker/milestone that lets you know that your body is asleep, REM Atonia has kicked in, and you are ready to step into a dream.

 

HOWEVER, getting to the state of SP [w/o REM atonia kicking in] or even close to it, during meditation, GREATLY helps. At that point you are incredibly more susceptible to post-hypnotic suggestions, and repeating a mantra or affirmation [i.e. "My tulpa is real and can talk"] is very very effective. This is also the point where anchors/sigils are usually most effective. Forcing is also much easier to do [if you can stay awake =p]. Also the increased concentration doesn't hurt. Another Mantra you can chant in this state is : "When I dream my tulpa will tell me I'm Dreaming". It's basically DILD, but you don't have to do the work your tulpa will.

 

 

Lucid dreaming is on a whole other level though. It's basically doing whatever the fck you want with your tulpa and It's awesome for fully formed tulpa adventures.

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I get some of the way to SP and then nothing happens. At all. Maybe I'm twitching and not realizing it, but I've tried for an hour straight and I can move my body any time I like.

Is this completely physical, or is it like hypnosis where it's best to 'accept' the changes?

 

cheers.

 

 

What exactly are you trying to do? REM Atonia only kicks in during the REM stage of sleep not when you're going straight to sleep. You'd need to do WBTB if you really wanted to be "Paralysed".

 

The point isn't to get paralysed at all, AT FUCKING ALL. Sleep paralysis is useless in itself [has absolutely 0 benefit] and is only a marker to let you when the body has fallen asleep.

 

Do you meditate? If no, this whole experiment is fucking useless to you. The point is to get into a state very close to SP, and start forcing or self-hypnosis or anchors or sigils or mantras/affirmations or all of the above, as when you are in this meditative state concentration + visualization gets much easier. NOTE: If you get too close to SP you will have almost 0 concentration with random nonsensical scenarios popping through your head and the risk of falling asleep.

 

Here's what you should do as you are doing it "right" but your intentions are wrong. Get into the same pos you usually do for meditation [lay down/sit down w.e.]. Lay there and just pay attention to your breath, or the sounds you hear. If you start getting random thoughts popping up, don't worry about it! Start reverse blinking [keep eyes closed and open them every 5 or so secs, focus on one thing, then close them again.] until you feel like you could fall asleep at any moment. Then start twitching the muscles in your leg [Without moving them at all, hard to explain how to do this] with every inhale. This tricks your body into thinking it's dreaming already. Once you feel like you are in a very deep state and could fall asleep at any moment [this is all intuition], congratulations! You've hit a sweet spot of concentration [the best you can do w/o WBTB and REM Atonia].

 

After you reach this point do whatever you want [i would suggest setting up an anchor so you can quickly reach this point again]! Forcing and visualizing is very easy at this point, you might even start getting auditory hallucinations. You are incredibly susceptible to self hypnosis, and mantra/affirmation are very effective. Happy experimenting!