Sexuality and Attraction to Tulpa

[cruse]

Now you see why they only thought of the physical process.

 

I wonder though, what goes on in a person's mind when he have sex with his loved one.

Yes, I am a virgin, no experience here.

[NekoiNemo]

 

You can get very rough idea of that - vividly think of someone you love (love as in butterflies in tummy and stuff), imagine yourself hugging them tightly. A-and take this emotion up to eleven.

 

 

Yeah, i understand now. Differs from person to person and can't be properly described. Just like with almost anything else here...

[Linkzelda]

OP: So, my first question is: are you attracted to your tulpa, and if so, have you done anything sexual with it (and, if you want to, what exactly did you do)?

 

Yes, I'm attracted to both of them, and I already had sex with them in a lucid dream. Basically, one was hugging me from behind and told me "Go! Go! Go!" while I made love to the other.

 

Definitely increased our bond of moral support.

 

While I will keep my motives for creating a tulpa pure, will knowing of a likely sexual relationship with my tulpa later down the road have a a similar effect?

 

Nah, you'll be fine.

 

While my tulpa has never been to appease me sexually at all (nor do I currently see her as an appropriate sexual partner at all), could I be putting both me and my tulpa at risk by thinking about the chance of doing her, or even clop in itself?

 

It's just one of those things you have to be prepared for, but when it happens, it probably won't feel as awkward as you think it may be.

 

 

However, if I make a female tulpa who is attracted to males, would that at all put my sexuality at risk?

 

Worst case scenario, you become proficient in switching, and she goes nuts after men.

 

Doubt that's going to happen.

 

And again, like others have stated, just communicate with your tulpa about these things. I don't think it's abnormal if a person has fantasies that might make them question their sexuality, you have to take action and actually want it to be part of your life and preference for it to be a "concern" or "risk."

 

I've had many fantasies that made me wonder what I really liked, but I'm just fine keeping them as fantasies.

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how do you describe the mental, romantic part then?

 

Now you see why they only thought of the physical process.

 

I'm not sure if you two were alluding to/addressing me, but I'll assume you were.

 

So, on a more serious note, my personal perspective: The 'tulpa' phenomenon purported on this site is, in my humble opinion, just a bastardized reinterpretation of a widespread spiritual practice that goes by many names. By definition, such meditative experiences are notoriously difficult to describe from a subjective standpoint anyway.

 

The point I was trying to make was that having a sexual encounter with a non-corporeal mental construct is just an elaborate masturbatory practice. That doesn't imply that you're just rubbing your genitals to get off; self-stimulation is, above all, psychological. Neurochemical manipulation—you can't escape the physicality either way, but you're ultimately dealing with the mind.

 

Since the techniques for creating a 'tulpa' encounter are often similar to (if not synonymous with) triggering a religious experience, feelings of euphoria and openness should be expected. Furthermore, although you must convince yourself of the construct's independence from you, the feeling of familiarity—and therefore trust—likely remains. Hard to beat that.

 

Morally, I see no difference between typical masturbation and self-stimulating to a meditative fantasy, regardless of the subject matter. However, I would be worried about fostering maladaptive behaviours. Sometimes it's better to allow yourself to mature and interact with reality, sexually or otherwise, and I can only see My Little Pony 'clopping' as counter-productive to self growth. Your 'tulpa'/Ātman/god-self is a potential guide to inner peace, constructive adaptation, and maturation.

[Lacquer]

So, on a more serious note, my personal perspective: The 'tulpa' phenomenon purported on this site is, in my humble opinion, just a bastardized reinterpretation of a widespread spiritual practice that goes by many names. By definition, such meditative experiences are notoriously difficult to describe from a subjective standpoint anyway.

 

What we did is take the formerly spiritual/metaphysical practice and distill it down to its roots. We took all the baseless fantasy out of it and we were left with just psychology. It is a fundamentally different procedure. The process is different, the results are different, and the expectations are different. The very, very basic premise, stripped down to the absolute minimal characteristic of "making another consciousness" is the same (in most cases; some metaphysical tulpa ideas say that you are summoning an outside demon or something of that sort).

 

But bastardized? No. The word you're looking for may be "modernized", "improved", or something like those. The point I'm trying to get across is that you shouldn't treat this psychological tulpa perspective like any of the spiritual perspectives. We've made our way of making tulpas into a way more befitting of today, like what has happened to meditation and yoga.

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What we did is take the formerly spiritual/metaphysical practice and distill it down to its roots. We took all the baseless fantasy out of it and we were left with just psychology.

 

The word you're looking for may be "modernized", "improved", or something like those. The point I'm trying to get across is that you shouldn't treat this psychological tulpa perspective like any of the spiritual perspectives. We've made our way of making tulpas into a way more befitting of today, like what has happened to meditation and yoga.

 

The cause is a noble one, and "bastardization" is an admittedly harsh word, and I apologize for that. (And maybe "perversion" would have been more appropriate for this thread.) And for many, yoga is still very much a spiritual exercise.

 

Anyway, I didn't intend to wax pedantic/philosophical and hijack the original topic, so I hauled the rest of my opprobrious commentary over here for a bitchslapping.

 

Bringing it back around, I'm personally not as concerned with the moral dilemma of jacking off to cartoons as I am about the psychological implications of impressionable, maladapted or mentally ill individuals dabbling (especially sexually) in a rarefied subcultural meme that promotes poorly understood experimental self-delusion. A 'scientific' objective does not preclude risk.

 

But just do what feels right to you. Exercise your intuition and allow yourself to be whoever you are with as little restriction as possible. Experiment without shame, and, by all means, get down with your shadow-self. It's a manifestation of your unconscious, primal underpinnings—an illusion of a separate 'consciousness'. To know thyself is a holistic endeavor.

[Pandoranomicon]

 

Are you female?

 

 

No I'm not.

[Guest Anonymous]

 

No I'm not.

 

Why did I giggle so hard at this response.

[Scott Z]

I understand the morality of creating tulpa for the purpose of sexual gratification. (I understand not to do it.) Let's look at the ethics just a little more deeply with a hypothetical scenario.

 

First, one creates a tulpa for all of the right reasons. Whatever you believe the right reasons to be, that is why it is done.

 

Second, one tulpaforces until the tulpa is well established. Just to be certain, the one continues to tulpaforce with the new tulpa for a few more months afterward just to make certain that the tulpa is emotionally stable.

 

Third, well after the tulpa is stable, one creates a servitor to be a sex toy.

 

Fourth, the tulpa is given the option of controlling the servitor and is encouraged to do it.

 

I am not asking if the scenario is possible. I am asking -- Is it ethically acceptable?

[NekoiNemo]

That's tricky. If it's ethically acceptable for you to even create a sex toy...