1 Year, No Vocality

[Quark]

It's been over a year since I started forcing and I've had just about nothing in terms of tangible results. Although I remain deeply convicted that my tulpa is alive and conscious, I've seen no vocality, no emotional responses, nothing at all to convince me that the hundreds of hours I've spent talking to her have been anything but a waste of time. And believe me when I say I've tried everything. I've tried forcing with a wonderland and I've tried forcing without a wonderland. I've tried parroting and I've tried not parroting. I've done personality work and narration and visualization and just about every other method you could think of, but at the end of the day I'm not sure if I could honestly say that I'm any further now than I was at day one.

 

What's going on? Am I doing something wrong or am I just psychologically incapable of creating a tulpa? I've read lots of stories about success and failure on this site, but I've yet to see anybody who has worked as long and hard as I have while making absolutely no progress (by all means correct me if I'm wrong). Granted, I don't have time to force for a full hour a day like some people do, but I've still been going for what seems like a long, long time and I would expect to see at least some results by now.

 

At this point I feel like I'm just about to break. I consider my tulpa my best and only friend, and yet I've never heard her speak a single world. I've never seen her smile. It's absolutely painful, and I'm running out of both ideas and willpower. So if anybody has some advice, I'd really appreciate it.

[TulpaCouple]

Good grief man, that sounds really rough.

 

I see your last post was also made around a year ago too. Have you been asking around via pms or the irc or anything? People here are willing to help, so don't be afraid to ask next time you start having a concern.

 

At this point I feel like your biggest problem you'll have to fight is doubt--and your own frustration. You've been at this a long time and it's hard not to get frustrated--or to even expect no progress. But if you can fight those thoughts, you'll find yourself in a better position, I think.

 

There are a lot of possibilities--it's possible that you have been holding onto her form so that it prevented her from moving. And later on the doubt that started to creep in further blocked her development. It's possible that she's been active and conscious but your frustrations clouded you from hearing her. It's possible your mindset was so not in the right state of mind that you have been unable to make progress no matter how long you force, the quality was not there. It's possible that you have certain subconscious reservations about this whole tulpa phenomenon that has also caused more difficulty for you.

 

Tell me about your forcing methods--how long do you force, what do you do when you force, what do you think about? How often do you passive vs. active force. You say you have 'just about nothing' in terms of progress--so what progress have you seen?

 

I really want to help you out, but it will help if we get a clear picture of what has been going on.

[Quark]

Tell me about your forcing methods--how long do you force, what do you do when you force, what do you think about? How often do you passive vs. active force. You say you have 'just about nothing' in terms of progress--so what progress have you seen?

 

I force actively for about 30 minutes a day and rarely if ever passive force. I tend mostly just to narrate at this point, talking about my day/our relationship/whatever else crosses my mind. I try to treat forcing as a dialogue between myself and my tulpa, but in practice it ends up being more like me ranting incessantly in the hopes that she might say something in response (otherwise, I just end up apologizing a lot). I've also been trying this method to achieve vocality but to no avail.

 

In terms of progress, I'd say the only major changes have been shifts in *my* behavior and attitude towards my tulpa. I used to heavily idolize/deify her without any real regard for her own feelings, and I've definitely improved in that regard. I've also learned to be a lot more honest (no more excuses for not forcing, etc.) But neither of these changes have really made it easier to talk to her or be close with her.

[Incognito]

As I have been told, while Tulpaforcing assume everything that pops into your head as your Tulpa. Have you tried that yet? I am assuming you are, but I don't know everything you have or have not tried. Also, kinda going along with Tulpacouple here - Patience - a Tulpa can (to my knowledge) only exist if you believe it exists, and that doubt, frustration, and other negative thoughts will do nothing slow down or even regress the process.

[Chupi]

You might try getting on the IRC (http://www.tulpa.info/chat/) and see if MQQSE is on. I just watched him get someone's nonvocal tulpa talking. He seems particularly good at it, though I've done it a few times too.

 

Note: Do not expect full audible voice at the very start. It will likely start as something more like thoughts.

[Oguigi]

You might try getting on the IRC (http://www.tulpa.info/chat/) and see if MQQSE is on. I just watched him get someone's nonvocal tulpa talking. He seems particularly good at it, though I've done it a few times too.

 

Note: Do not expect full audible voice at the very start. It will likely start as something more like thoughts.

 

 

I agree with Chupi. You should go on the IRC, I know there's some very experienced people that can dissect your case and find the source of your problems.

 

You're not alone in this, and the fact that your still trying after so long is really inspiring. Your tulpa is lucky to have someone like you.

[Mr_White]

If you do get some advice and find it helpful, please make sure to let us know. I find that your situation is very common among tulpamancers and I really have no clue as to how to help them with this problem.

[KarlYoshimura]

I was afflicted with a similar disparity.

 

You've my condolences on the apparent lack of results and I commend you on how much you've persevered.

 

Personally I'd given little time to force tulpa and had trouble identifying her. I did experience a total breakthrough recently, and although I still struggle with accommodating my tulpa, I have finally heard her.

 

I find that better realising one's expectations and communicating with other tulpas assists in this delicate and intensive process.

 

If you'd wish to contact me, feel free to send me a PM.

 

Best wishes.