How to AVOID making a Tulpa

[curiousity]

This might seem like a weird problem to have, but hear me out. My Tulpa, the only one I have and, I believe, the only one I want, was born from a character that I was writing about. He became so fleshed out that he just kind of came to life on his own.

 

I still like writing. But I don't need every main character from my writing to become a Tulpa and gain any sentience. How can I have really developed characters that are still absolutely going to stay 'just characters'? I guess I'm a little paranoid; after it happened on its own once, I'm worried it could happen enough to get to the point where I can't write much anymore beyond very one-dimensional plots and people.

 

P.S Yes, I know that there is a lot of work that needs to be done even with well-made characters for them to become Tulpae. What I'm trying to do is just nip it in the bud, so to speak.

[Linkzelda]

I think of many thought-forms whenever doing an image streaming session or something like that. Just don't attach yourself to the thought of them becoming tulpa.

 

But there are cases of people who made tulpas from constant writing and being suggestive about things, but that doesn't mean you're trapped forever with creating "accidental" or "unintentional" tulpas.

 

Not to scare you or anything, but your own temperament on the matter with the paranoia is what's going to affect you. And you should already know that whatever activities you do for inspiration in writing and such, it wouldn't necessarily create a full-fledged tulpa unless you really wanted to pour every ounce of belief and practice into them being so.

 

The difference is that you're treating them as characters that will have a transient existence for the sake of you being able to continue your writing endeavors and such. Keep that in mind, and you'll be fine.

[waffles]

Like Linkzelda said, you're much more likely to create a tulpa accidentally if you expect to. Similarly, if you explicitly intend not to make a tulpa then you will not. So just act on that and you'll be fine.

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My perspective, having essentially encountered the same situation, is that a tulpa born from any creative process is an asset, not a problem.

 

I believe spontaneous, artistically derived thought-forms are an exercise in exorcism rather than the bottom-up construction of a new, living mind. You're breathing your own fundamental sentience and archetypal forms into a novel representation of yourself. Any artist or writer who's gifted enough to be naturally attuned to themselves may fortuitously experience their creation talking back to them. And personally I would encourage the process.

 

So that leads me to a question: Why do you feel your fictional characters' expression of autonomy is a negative thing?

[Sands]

Control your overactive imagination and don't think every single thing you hear or see is omg a tulpa.

 

As for why you want some characters to stay as just characters without their own will: that way you can do what you want with them. I experience things through them wearing their skins, I don't want to do that with a tulpa. I would have to take a passive observer role when dealing with the new tulpas that used to be characters, not the active role I take now. It makes my own daydreams boring, so I could see why it would do the same to others.

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As for why you want some characters to stay as just characters without their own will: that way you can do what you want with them. I experience things through them wearing their skins, I don't want to do that with a tulpa. I would have to take a passive observer role when dealing with the new tulpas that used to be characters, not the active role I take now. It makes my own daydreams boring, so I could see why it would do the same to others.

 

I could see why this might be a concern, but I've actually found tulpas to be invaluable consultants.

 

Depending on the approach, a tulpa can significantly enhance creativity. For example, if I want to continue developing a story or art piece's character, I can just ask the tulpa to expound on, or provide insight into, how they might react to a hypothetical event. We can even roleplay to explore possibilities, expand horizons, and formulate all manner of expatiation.

 

I think what's vital to consider is that the appearance of sentience and autonomy does not automatically decide the outcome of a fictional persona or its imaginative course. Even if the tulpa deviates, the character from which it was originally derived can remain the same. Everything else becomes a personal moral concern.

 

Really, it's no different than imagining an alternate course of reality for a real person—in this case, one to whom you are intimately and inextricably bound by the same brain.

[Quilten]

I, as well, am a writer and I have had this problem before (it has been solved: http://community.tulpa.info/thread-help-with-servitor-issue), and not only do I struggle with not accidentally creating tulpae, but its hard for me to not want to have tulpa that reflects a character I have written, even though my life is pretty much in a downward spiral at the mo', and the last thing I need is a third tupper, I am actually considering creating one. Maybe even from the servitor from my earlier post, linked above. The comments are helpful.

[Sands]

Depending on the approach, a tulpa can significantly enhance creativity. For example, if I want to continue developing a story or art piece's character, I can just ask the tulpa to expound on, or provide insight into, how they might react to a hypothetical event. We can even roleplay to explore possibilities, expand horizons, and formulate all manner of expatiation.

 

Except the point here is that I don't want to ask some other being what they think, I want to think what they think and go on crazy adventures wearing their skin and their thoughts. So it's the roleplaying/acting part, being the passive listener role gets boring. At least for me, so I find the idea of turning all my imaginary flesh-suits into actually thinking things something that limits my own creativity and also takes away something that is very important in my life, living the life of someone else in my head for shits and giggles. Going through all kinds of shit I normally couldn't and constantly wondering oh man what would I do now if I were this dude I'm not. And I doubt I'm the only one thinking that way. Your way of thinking doesn't work for everyone, just like my way of thinking doesn't work for everyone. It's stupid to try to force your way as the only way, when there's always so many sides to how we want to experience our own imagination.

 

And having two things that look or think the same in my head would just be silly. I got more creativity than that, I'd like everyone to be unique when compared to each other, thank you very much.

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I want to think what they think and go on crazy adventures wearing their skin and their thoughts...living the life of someone else in my head for shits and giggles.

 

In the event a tulpa does arise from art or writing, there are other ways to cope with, or even prosper from, their presence. The result depends on the individual's approach. I don't let a tulpa stop me from conjecturing about, or altering, its parent character, or using its form to develop and diversify new personas.

 

Dream possession is another option where any scenario can be achieved and vividly experienced through lucidity. I'm sure the same affect could be achieved more easily with psychoactive/psychedelic chemicals.

 

It's stupid to try to force your way as the only way.

 

Sir, may I ask you to refrain from wantonly distorting and belittling my intentions as forceful and 'stupid'? That's neither accurate or constructive to me or the discussion. You immediately progressed from welcoming different perspectives to insulting mine with a derogatory judgment. I think your arguments would read as more genuine and effective if you practiced what you preached.

 

And having two things that look or think the same in my head would just be silly. I got more creativity than that, I'd like everyone to be unique when compared to each other, thank you very much.

 

Fair enough, but your defensive tone and apparent victim mentality seem extremely displaced here. No one is forcing, coercing, asking or even suggesting that you to do something you'd rather not.

[Sands]

Look, Envolucris. Look at what the original poster said. He didn't ask about what you're going on about. He asked how to avoid making tulpas of his characters, you are wondering why. My second response was to you, because you asked a question. I told you the reasons I could see him having from my own personal point of view, knowing exactly why I wouldn't want to make tulpas out of my characters. He has yet to answer why he doesn't want to, maybe his reasons are different, but that doesn't mean they're any less valid than your own. So I don't even understand why you're going on about this when you didn't even answer the original question in the first place. You're only talking about why you should make a tulpa out of your character/s. But this isn't really a thing you can debate about which it at least seems like you're trying to do here, because this is completely up to your own preferences and opinions. Some people just don't want to and don't want to deal with something they could prevent. Let them.

 

Also, when I say "you", sometimes it might very well be a plural you because English has such a feature, or you might even be able to replace it with "one", but writing you instead of one tends to make it more personal and anyone reading this might get this sudden realization like "hey, I do that thing, wow!" or something, I dunno. Think of them as these general life tips or something, to everyone who might read them. Funny you speak of defensive...

 

Also I thought adding thank you very much after things gave them a humorous tone but I guess not.