Negative Traits

[Pioneer11]

 

Ever hear of the Jungian concept of the "shadow"? For your situation, it might be interesting to read up on it.

 

I did! In fact I think this is how a big chunk of his personality was created. We studied it together after I discovered psychology and we both felt the topic resonated with our situation. He also finds relatable Jung’s concept of Animus/a.

[Punch]

Thanks for the replies, everyone. It seems the general consensus is that negative traits arise naturally from positive ones, and that intentionally giving my tulpa negative traits is a Bad Idea.

 

Right now, my idea for setting a personality is to treat my tulpa like someone I just met, giving them superficial traits initially and let the rest fill in as I get to know them.

[Lacquer]

Right now, my idea for setting a personality is to treat my tulpa like someone I just met, giving them superficial traits initially and let the rest fill in as I get to know them.

 

Sounds good. Keep in mind though, that it is okay to give your tulpa more personality traits, or more detailed personality traits, or even personality traits that would more subtle than the sort you could discern from meeting a person for the first time. Deviation is an important part of the personality "step" (not really a step since the different parts of creating a tulpa should blend into each other and not be divided up like people who eat every meal with multiple sides one piece at a time but that's a story for a different time and I digress), so no matter how many, few, in depth, or vague your traits are, they'll still coalesce (or get ignored by your subconscious) into creating a full tulpa personality.

 

I'm not saying that you're wrong, quite the opposite, I'm saying that you should look at it like "this method is best for me" and not "I am avoiding other methods because they're worse". Of course this whole point could be moot if you already understood everything I just said, but whatever. Maybe someone else who's new will see my post and take something else positive away from it.

[Sock]

Negative traits are mainly a thing to make fiction more interesting, not something to be actually desired in a companion. It IS called a 'negative trait', for a reason, its a quality that makes the person less desirable to be around.

 

Yes, folks tend to find negative traits in fictional characters endearing, but if a person had the same traits in real life, they would usually be condemned in some way. As an example, who would really find the cartoonish 'tsundere' quality endearing in itself when found in a real person? Would women find someone like Edward Cullen legitimately attractive if he was a person they knew? Etc.

 

I think a better term for what's being described is a 'quirk', as the negative quality spoken of seems to have the intent of making the person more 'real', and thus more desirable, rather than something legitimately annoying as a true negative trait would be.

[Pioneer11]

Negative traits are mainly a thing to make fiction more interesting, not something to be actually desired in a companion. It IS called a 'negative trait', for a reason, its a quality that makes the person less desirable to be around. Yes, folks tend to find negative traits in fictional characters endearing, but if a person had the same traits in real life, they would usually be condemned in some way.

 

I don't really agree. I think people’s personalities ultimately determine what is to be considered “negative”. Many don’t tolerate those who are cheerful all the time or are very talkative. Others prefer derogative sarcasm to light humor and so on. Traits become truly “negative” in more extreme cases, such as creating a malicious, sadistic Tulpa, which is dangerous for the Host’s mental being.

[Punch]

Yes, folks tend to find negative traits in fictional characters endearing, but if a person had the same traits in real life, they would usually be condemned in some way. As an example, who would really find the cartoonish 'tsundere' quality endearing in itself when found in a real person? Would women find someone like Edward Cullen legitimately attractive if he was a person they knew? Etc.

 

I think a better term for what's being described is a 'quirk', as the negative quality spoken of seems to have the intent of making the person more 'real', and thus more desirable, rather than something legitimately annoying as a true negative trait would be.

 

Oh I know, it's the Snape Effect: millions of fanpeople wanted to bang Alan Rickman Professor Snape, even though he's a sadistic asshole, that would suck to be around.

 

And you're right, I think what I meant was "quirks" more than actual negative traits. Even then, I think I'd be better off sticking with positive traits, and letting the rest develop naturally.

[Metatron]

Also something that I forgot to mention earlier, no need to deliberately add negative traits. I am sure some "negative" ones will arise over time as the both of you develop your personalities in relation to each other.