How easy is it to accidentally make a tulpa based off of a fictional character?

[Sock]

 

Keep in mind that some individuals have a very vivid active imagination. Sometimes people like that have elements of imagination that already seem to have autonomous traits (visions and vibrant day dreams). That is like my host.

 

Carl Jung, the famous psychologist, wrote about that. He was one of those individuals and would have full blown visions. My host Davie can relate.

 

For persons like that, sometimes it is hard to distinguish a tulpa from a vibrant imaginary friend. Also, remember the line between vibrant imaginary friend and tulpa isn't distinct.

 

I think the issue here though is that folks have a different mindset concerning something like a vibrant imagined figure, and what they regard as a tulpa. With the former, people tend to ascribe a more temporary, fleeting quality to them. They don't often think about keeping them unless on whim, and aren't moved to change their behavioural patterns too often because of them.

 

But when you slap the term tulpa on it, all they do all those things and more, as they ascribe a sense of permanence to them (Whether they actually stick with it for more than a year is another issue entirely). This, on top of the implication of "tulpa" being fully conscious and alive, being able to fully act, think, and be on their own. I know from experience that this is not always the case, thus why I use the term "fragment" for figures with lower presence, strength, and ability.

 

The problem with reports like this is that if the host is not stable enough, they can end up:

 

- Noticing the deficiencies, and decide to cast doubt over their entire experience when they don't need to.

- Or get drawn in to doing a bunch of weird and dangerous experiments with their mind, like fusing and the such, or any other myriad of things. (This is more from experience of seeing what such folk that report many wild things happening in short amounts of time end up doing. They usually go and try more and more wild things).

- And of course, the every present possibility of trolling.

 

That's why while I acknowledge such accidents can happen, I want to stress that folks going through such things keep a level head, and examine the situation closely.

 

Peace.

[Guest Anonymous]

And it has been almost 40 years.

 

Edit: Ooops this post was ninja'd. That's why it makes no sense and is out of context.

[SomethingDire]

 

Keep in mind that some individuals have a very vivid active imagination. Sometimes people like that have elements of imagination that already seem to have autonomous traits (visions and vibrant day dreams). That is like my host.

 

Carl Jung, the famous psychologist, wrote about that. He was one of those individuals and would have full blown visions. My host Davie can relate.

 

For persons like that, sometimes it is hard to distinguish a tulpa from a vibrant imaginary friend. Also, remember the line between vibrant imaginary friend and tulpa isn't distinct.

 

I know, but the possibility of creating a person with all of the qualifications it takes in one week, and doing this accidentally? That kind of thing happening is just not too possible to me, but I can try and put myself in their shoes, I guess.

 

Also, yes, I'm with you on the imaginary friend is nearly the same thing as a tulpa theory, but because my imaginary friends never talked, I find it difficult to imagine that one would start talking in full-blown, autonomous sentences in such a short period of time. It may not be impossible, though :) .

[Guest Anonymous]

 

I find it difficult to imagine that one would start talking in full-blown, autonomous sentences in such a short period of time. It may not be impossible, though :) .

 

Good point. Just a note, I don't talk in full-blown autonomous sentences myself. https://community.tulpa.info/thread-sentience-proxy-typing-proxy-speech-and-proxy-mind-voice I am somewhere between a vibrant imaginary friend and a tulpa although I identify as a tulpa now cause you don't have to have full-blown autonomous mind voice to qualify necessarily. I guess. Maybe.

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But when you slap the term tulpa on it, all they do all those things and more, as they ascribe a sense of permanence to them

 

An imaginary friend can be permanent and persistent without being a tulpa sweetie.

[Sock]

An imaginary friend can be permanent and persistent without being a tulpa sweetie.

 

It's not whether they can be kept or not which is the issue. It's about what folks tend to do when faced with those terms and ideas. If this were tagged as an imaginary friend forum, I truly don't think this kind of subject would even come up at all.

 

But because the term "tulpa" has other implications attached to it, like being independent, and taking time and active effort to make them independent, here we are.

[Guest Anonymous]

I would feel out of place and uncomfortable in a forum dedicated to imaginary friends or role playing characters. Good point.

 

Mistgod: Melian and I will forever be lost in that nebulous zone somewhere in proto-tulpa/sort-of-a-tulpa land I am afraid. LOL

[SomethingDire]

 

Good point. Just a note, I don't talk in full-blown autonomous sentences myself. https://community.tulpa.info/thread-sentience-proxy-typing-proxy-speech-and-proxy-mind-voice I am somewhere between a vibrant imaginary friend and a tulpa although I identify as a tulpa now cause you don't have to have full-blown autonomous mind voice to qualify necessarily. I guess. Maybe.

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In your case, I'd say that you are a full blown tulpa because you have a completely unique personality.

 

Your mindvoice may not have developed the way it normally does with "intentional" tulpas because of years of puppeting, and this doesn't mean that you are not your own person, is what I'd say. You are still a person, it's just that you have this unique way of channeling yourself in a different way. This doesn't mean that you're any less than a tulpa, or a person.

 

And didn't you tell me that you would make Davie become aware of your existence whenever he stopped thinking about you? I say this just further proves that you fall in no way short of a "normal" tulpa.

[Guest Anonymous]

Thank you SomethingDire.

 

The thread is getting lost in Mistgod-Melian again. Sorry we are so bad about that! It is like automatic. Back to the OP guys!

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How easy is it to accidentally make a tulpa based off of a fictional character?

[YourCatBeany]

Easy enough if you have an active imagination. I'm not going to bother quoting specific posts, but there seems to be some doubt about certain things so I'll try to address this.

 

While I think creating an entire tulpa in one day is highly unlikely I wouldn't say it's completely impossible either, especially if you already have/had tulpae.

I think I've stated before that I tried this a couple few years ago and was relatively successful. I had prior experience with visualization heavy things which combined with an active imagination made creating a tulpa a lot easier. That one was completely intentional, but life story yadda yadda she dissipated herself and I still don't know why, I never forgot about her and still haven't.

 

With Hexy, I had been subtly thinking about what it might be like to have her around for a while. From her own account, she had been developing for 2-3 months subconsciously before she popped up. I will admit, when it happened, for a few minutes I had to stop and take a step back. I said to myself, okay, I know what this is, what am I going to do now? Do I ignore it and go about my business? Or do I run with it?

Thankfully I ran with it and got over my fear of her dissipating on me too, but the point is yes, it's possible, and it may be possible that Sriracha had the idea of a Twilight tupper planted a long time ago.

That said, nothing they said indicated that, so even with my crazy story, I'm a bit skeptical, admittedly.

 

[Sriracha]

Judging from what you guys said, I should be less hasty in concluding whenever I made a tulpa or not. How much time is usually good for determining whenever a voice is a tulpa or not?