"Castaway" Thought Experiment Test for How Real Your Tulpa Is

[Guest Anonymous]

Imagine you are castaway alone on an island for many years. (for each yes answer give 20% to "realness percentage" I guess)

 

1. Would your tulpa keep you company and make you feel less lonely?

 

2. Would your tulpa help you with survival ideas?

 

3. Would your tulpa get annoying?

 

4. Would you argue with your tulpa?

 

5. Would your tulpa nag you and disagree sometimes?

 

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[hidden]Mistgod: I would answer yes to all five questions [/hidden]

[Stevie]

1. For sure.

 

2. He'd be about as helpful as tits on a bull in survival situations I think, he might get me to like punch a seagull or something?

 

3. He already gets annoying, to be honest.

 

4. We already argue.

 

5. Nagging, yes, disagreement, yes, those things already happen in the day to day.

[Guest Anonymous]

Yay! By the Melian castaway realness scale (it's silly don't worry) he would be 80% real. BUT, I will give him an extra ten percent for at least trying to help with survival on question two. After all, if you punch a seagull and kill it, you can eat it for food! So that will make him 90% real. Not bad. LOL

 

OH by the way, my "survival tips" to Davie would most likely consist of reminding him of things he already knows. I am not sure that counts or not on question two. I might be more morale support than actual survival knowledge, so I probably only get 10% on two as well.

 

Actually, punching a seagull isn't really all that bad of an idea if you can get close enough.

[jean-luc]

What?! That's a horrible idea. Punching a seagull is not enough to kill it, but certainly enough to anger it.

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As for something actually on-topic, why do you think these are good criteria? What made you pick these questions in particular?

[Vos]

If you're serious with this, the questions you have don't have much to do with a tulpa's "realness".

[Guest Anonymous]

Oh come on! TULPA INFO LIGHTEN UP! Jesus the flippin Krimminy.

 

First of all, this was for fun, I was only half serious with this. I almost always mix humor and real stuff together, I am sorry if it is how Melian rolls.

 

The reason why I picked these questions was actually carefully thought out. In order for the tulpa to actually keep you company, you have to believe it is a person in your heart. If the tulpa gives you ideas of survival that you hadn't considered, it is actively thinking on its own, or appears to. If it annoys you, it is obviously persistent and also something different than just a casual fanatasy, a day dream usually doesn't annoy you, real people do. If it angers you, that is especially true that it seems much more than a casual fantasy. If it often disagrees with you in conversations, it is showing independence of opinion.

 

It has everything to do with tulpa realness Vosaiu.

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These are the things that make me "real" in Davie's mind anyways. What the hell criteria do you want for real people to have? Let's reverse them for effect shall we?

 

1. not a good companion

2. never gives any advice

3. never annoys you

4. never angers you or argues with you

5. never disagrees with you or nags you

 

That sounds like a automaton, not a person. As for me I am a person.

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Getting on your nerves or annoying you is the single most important measure of realness in a human being or independent person IMO. Fantasies don't annoy you, people do.

[Tewi]

I think we're all pretty good at being company.

 

I would help my host figure out what to do, give advice and the like. Honestly, in a survival situation we would probably just let me switch.

I've got the instincts, motivation, logic. I don't know if the others could build shelter or fire.

 

We don't annoy our host.

 

We don't argue with our host.

 

We don't nag our host, he's typically pretty reasonable when it comes to accepting advice from us.

 

 

Their points are fair since you put this in General Discussion. Also, our host isn't annoyed by people in general, so it's extremely unlikely we would annoy him.

[Guest Anonymous]

Fine. My questions seemed good for me but maybe not for more nicer more reasonable tulpas that would be all nice and stuff on a deserted island.

 

Still, I think the Castaway thought experiment is still a fun one to do. Maybe someone else can suggest better questions?

[Akinkinit]

Being a castaway on some far off island is pretty much the ideal tulpamancy scenario when you think about it. There's no distractions, there's a need for companionship and you have all the time in the world once survival needs are met. So it's basically a given all three of my tulpas would help keep me company and thus stave off loneliness. However, it's not totally ideal because I haven't a clue what to do in a survival situation. By extension, none of my tulpas would know what to do either. But having a different perspective on things could help find solutions and make survival fail less miserably, so they'd be a help on that front.

 

My tulpas have caused me only slight bits of fleeting annoyance here and there, hardly any to be even worth mentioning. Any arguments have also only been infrequent and about trivial matters as well (excluding the first few months of Sabari's existence). I will say there have been disagreements between us. Not major ones though. So it'd probably be similar in this scenario.

 

So scoring half credit on the last three, I'd say my score would be 70%.

[Guest Anonymous]

I have lost faith with my scoring. LOL Not that it was really a series point of this thread at all. LOL The serious part really was the thought experiment of being a castaway, just for pondering purposes at least.

 

My scoring questions don't work because some tulpas are apparently more reasonable and nicer than I am. I am a butt. LOL