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On Forcing: Developing the Consciousness


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“Can I create a tulpa only by passive forcing?” This question pops up constantly on tulpa forums and discussion groups. It often comes from a thought that “active forcing” requires you to dedicate time to your tulpa, and you ain’t got time for that shite (you still want to have a tulpa, though).

 

I decided to tap into the applied neuroscience and make a bridge between forcing and mindfulness; expanding into the brain idling states and pointing out the best strategies to develop a tulpa.

 

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It was an edit, he previously posted his thoughts on "developing the consciousness" as if it was a General Discussion thread. "Board" is the word you'd be looking for, by the way

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“Can I create a tulpa only by passive forcing?”

The article doesn't really answer that question.

 

It often comes from a thought that “active forcing” requires you to dedicate time to your tulpa

It does.

 

And indeed, “active forcing” is hosts experiencing their tulpas while being aware of it; while “passive forcing” is them doing it while being unaware of the action.

I don't agree with this statement. There's no reason not to be aware that you're passive forcing.

 

Buddhist traditions place thoughts next to the other senses, naming it a sixth sense, no different from sight or hearing4

I'm not sure how this is relevant. In fact, none of the Buddhism references seem to have much purpose being there.

 

 in fact a meditation practice

I don't agree that it's a meditation practice unless meditation is used. I agree with most of this paragraph though, aside from saying that active forcing involves sorting out thoughts, I don't think that's really a requirement, rather it's something that can be done during it.

 

Change the term "subconscious" to "unconscious."

 

Can you add that fronting is also useful if they haven't learned switching yet? Unless it's not. I don't know, I haven't learned full switching yet, lol.

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Overall, I think this is a very good article, just some things need to be re-worded or changed around a bit, like the Buddhism references that don't seem to really fit, or the fact that it doesn't really address the question presented at the beginning. Other than that, it's really well done. Add a back-up link and perhaps edit some things and I'll approve for articles.

 

I'm not really sure about the title itself though. "Developing the Consciousness" doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense, perhaps "Developing the Ego" would be better? Just a suggestion.

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This is mostly a really good article with some interesting thoughts, my only real gripe with it is that you’ve changed the definitions of active and passive forcing.

 

a concept similar to awareness and meta-awareness in psychology: to have an experience is not necessarily to know that one is having it. And indeed, “active forcing” is hosts experiencing their tulpas while being aware of it; while “passive forcing” is them doing it while being unaware of the action.

 

This is not the definition of passive forcing. The accepted definitions of active and passive forcing are basically this:

 

Active: Giving your tulpa your full undivided attention.

Passive: Giving your tulpa your divided attention, e.g. during narration.

 

Whether or not you are operating at a level of awareness or meta-awareness is irrelevant. This could be taken further by saying:

 

Active forcing whilst aware: Giving your tulpa your undivided attention whilst aware.

Active forcing whilst meta-aware: Giving your tulpa your undivided attention whilst aware of your awareness.

Passive forcing whilst aware: Giving your tulpa your divided attention whilst aware.

Passive forcing whilst meta-aware: Giving your tulpa your divided attention whilst aware of your awareness.

 

I still want to approve this article in it's current state because apart from my gripe it's honestly quite good, just needs a back-up link.

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I really like the article. It stresses the importance of attention/awareness and includes a well thought out theory on how tulpas operate. I can see this being very helpful to new or aspiring tulpamancers.

 

Nat and I read through the article several times and picked up on some minor mistakes which we’ve annotated here.

 

Other than that, it has our approval.

 

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Real problems:

you never answered the question from the beginning about if you can make a tulpa only passive forcing.

 

Your definitions for active and passive forcing don't fit with the common definition. If you want to have words that distinguish between forcing while aware and forcing while meta aware, just make up new words like "awareness forcing" and "meta awareness forcing".

 

Nitpicks:

Thoughts themselves aren't a sense; the ability to percive thoughts is, just like how light is not a sense, but sight it.

 

 

Other than those things, the article makes some interesting points and is well written. Overall it's good enough that I would still approve for articles once you put in the back up link, but fixing those things would really improve the article

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I don't know if I'm allowed to comment on this, since I'm not on the GAT board or anything, but this was a fascinating read.

 

I would like the article to have an answer you they original question, but otherwise it was cool to see clear connects drawn to psychological states, tulpamancy, and Buddhism. It isn't new info, but is the first time I've seen the interplay of tulpamancy and the DMN laid out clearly, as well as the difference between its effects on the DMN vs pure Buddhistic meditation be addressed. Somewhat similar to the difference between free dreaming and lucid dreaming-- you are messing with the way "your" subconscious functions, which some people will warn you against.

 

The psychology major/Buddhist is pleased.

 

8.27.2019 EDIT: Fixed typo

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feel free to comment on any of this stuff regardless of if you are in GAT. GAT are just the ones who have to review guides and who ultimately decide if they get approved or not, of course every comment and review influences our decision by highlighting points we may have ignored or even just expressing your opinion

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