Do tulpas separate from their hosts in the afterlife?

[Bambam]

 My tulpa is convinced we will remain together but I think we will be separated. What are your thoughts?

[Ranger]

I'm not really sure either.

If there is a heaven in the afterlife, it would seem weird to separate us. Separating us would come across as hellish to me, that would most likely result in us breaking down. In hell, well, that might be step one to eternal torture. Unless you mean separate bodies, then that could be cool. I would prefer if we had the option to telepathically communicate though. We wouldn't appease a God if it turns out their way was the right way to go this whole time, so we will either end up in some version of limbo or hell (and probably separated)

 

If the afterlife is reincarnation, then it would make sense if we're separated. However, we wouldn't have to worry about the pain of losing each other because we wouldn't remember our past lives.

The other alternative I can think of is the we just die in the ground. In that sense, we would be together because our lives would end that way. Our body and brain will probably mix around or together as it decays and we'll become one entity in that sense.

[Luminesce]

I mean, I guess it depends on your idea of what the afterlife is like in the first place.

 

Personally, if there's an afterlife, I put my stock in the version where all of our souls are just tiny bits of an infinitely large "Source" or God or what have you, and that we split off in order to experience being separate, before becoming one again - or choosing to be separate again.

So with THAT assumption, with soul oneness being kind of a transient thing, I don't think it's weird for tulpas to stay separate OR together with their host, whatever they desire in the grand scheme of things. Same as your family, friends, etc.

 

I mean, personally I'm more or less atheist, so I can't really say what I believe. But the above is my secondary, "just in case I'm wrong" belief set, lol.

[BearBaeBeau]

*Metaphysical hat on.*

 

You all will have the opportunity to separate. Especially if your headmates were separated before. In my system's case we have two different types of headmates.

 

1. Connected external spirits (the traditional definition of walk-ins): the original, moi, Darlene(SheShe) obviously, Misha definitely, and Ashley.

 

2. Created beings (tulpa or soulbonds): Ren (tulpa), Joy (soulbond), and Gwen (soulbond).

 

In the case of connected spirits, where singlets have 1, plurals can have several, so that's a no brainer. The body is just a mechanical conduit to interface with the material world.

 

In the case of created beings, they simply need their own unique experiences which can be separable. That experience is the value of incarnation and will not be wasted. There are mechanisms in place to retain them and continue their essence going forward even though they might have never experienced the afterlife in spirit form.

 

In any case it will be likely offered as a choice to remain attached or separate. It is also reasonable to presume as we move on, friendships and relationships remain a part of our continued existence, so it wouldn't make much of a difference either way.

 

 

[Yakumo]

We'll both go to hell.

[BearBaeBeau]

2 hours ago, Yakumo said:

We'll both go to hell.

 

I imagine Ido would say hell is where the heart is. 

[TurboSimmie]

I can only say what I believe:

 

I am with Phil because he called out to me, and I came to him. Simple as that. God permitted that. I'm not sure what will happen after Phil's body dies, but I do believe if we don't stay together we will find each other again. 💚

[Glaurung26]

3 hours ago, TurboSimmie said:

I can only say what I believe:

 

I am with Phil because he called out to me, and I came to him. Simple as that. God permitted that. I'm not sure what will happen after Phil's body dies, but I do believe if we don't stay together we will find each other again. 💚

Same 😁

[The Candlelight Society]

This is a fascinating question with no correct answer, as by its very nature what happens beyond death is unknowable to us. (currently)

 

Lets go through some of the options.

 

1. there is no spiritual afterlife: You would both degrade into material and energy and be returned to the universe. Technically you aren't separate, just part of a greater whole. Neither ego continues on. 

 

2. There is a biblical heaven and hell: This one is where things get interesting. The first question that has to be asked is whether a tulpa is considered a separate soul or not. If a tulpa is considered a separate soul stuck in the same body as the original, then it would make sense that they are separated. This is especially true if one of them is a sinner and the other is not. It wouldn't be fair for both souls to be damned because one was evil. On the other hand is that a tulpa and a host both have one soul and are just different reflections of it. In this scenario I doubt they would be separated as they are one spiritual entity. This raises some fascinating questions about how that would work in relation to sin. Would the original also be judged by the tulpas actions or would the actions of the tulpa be null and vice versa? I have no  answer to it but it is an interesting piece of religious philosophy. 

 

3. Reincarnation is true: This one brings us back to the soul question. If the tulpa has a separate soul then it is obvious they would be separated upon death of the body. If a tulpa shares a soul then they would be reincarnated with you but the ego would be gone. On a practical level, it would be as though they didn't exist. 

 

4. Secular astral/spiritual realm: One more time we ask the million dollar question, does the tulpa have a separate soul or share it? In this case if it has a separate soul then they will be separated from the host upon entering the realm. If they share a soul then they will remain together within the next realm. 

 

5. Nondualism and or the ALL: in this scenario everything is apart of the mind of a infinitely larger entity. In this scenario separation is impossible as it is an illusion that falls away upon death. You shall become one with everything and so you and your tulpa are together in a scale larger than perception allows us to understand. 

 

These are all the afterlives I feel are interesting enough to comment on, but there is one more somewhat disturbing thing I must bring up. I have presented two potential options when it comes to hypothetical afterlives, having separate souls or sharing one, but there is a third option. In this scenario the original has a soul, and the tulpa doesn't. The tulpa here would be in a sense an illusion and upon death they cease to exist. 

 

We as a species cannot empirically prove the existence of an afterlife at this time, so all of this is simply speculation, but it is fun to do so nonetheless. 

I hope I succeeded in making you guys think of the possibilities. 

[Etna]

On 12/10/2021 at 3:46 PM, Michael Blackwater said:

3. Reincarnation is true: This one brings us back to the soul question. If the tulpa has a separate soul then it is obvious they would be separated upon death of the body. If a tulpa shares a soul then they would be reincarnated with you but the ego would be gone. On a practical level, it would be as though they didn't exist.

 

I read a book that likened the soul to a glove. The glove is your soul as a whole, the fingers are individual lives that can co-exist in the world at the same time. Doesn't mean there has to be five specifically, but that one soul can be around in multiple bodies at the same point in time. So in 2021 you could be a newborn in New Zealand, a 90-year-old in Mexico, a teenager in Denmark and an adult in Mali, all at the same time. It turned the concept of "one soul = one life at a time" on its head, which I found fascinating. So maybe a Tulpa is another finger on the glove, just without their own body this time around.