glitchthe3rd June 3, 2012 Author June 3, 2012 I do have some questions: How long did you and Luna think about and discuss this? If Europa is sentient already, how does she feel about this? If she isn't, will you tell her about this when she is? Also, you said it was better for all parties involved. Why is it better for Luna? Did your possession experiments make her unhappy with her existence as a tulpa? Only a couple of hours, it doesn't take us long to figure out all the angles to a problem and settle upon the best decision for everyone. Europa (henceforth to be known as Elise) is taking this all remarkably well. In fact, she even encouraged us to go through with it. She mentioned there was a third option that would've allowed Luna to live on, though it would have required a drastic revision to her personality, and in effect, the new tulpa wouldn't have been Luna at all, but someone new. I didn't want to mention this, but Luna was heavily corrupted when I "found"/remembered her a year ago. From what I gather, the corruption spread over the past year, and if I'd done nothing, it would've eventually consumed her and created a situation similar to what happened with the other servitor that went rogue. Except this time, there would be no way for me to reason with her, kill her, dispel her or anything. It would've been that bad, and my subconscious somehow sensed this and sorted the problem out. So we decided that this was the best way to deal with the problem. The good news is, with her gone, along with the remains of my wonderland, the corruption is completely gone. The moral of the story is, don't create a tulpa with hate in your heart (like I did with my first servitor). It just spreads out and corrupts everything around that tulpa, and causes you a lot of needless pain and suffering. Instead, do so with love, so that they become the best tulpa they can be, and they don't fuck everything up for you years down the road. Learn from my mistakes, I might be crazy but I've had a lot of experience with tulpaforcing in general. "Science isn't about why, science is about why not?" -Cave Johnson Tulpae: Luna, Elise, Naomi My progress report
Guest June 3, 2012 June 3, 2012 Only a couple of hours, it doesn't take us long to figure out all the angles to a problem and settle upon the best decision for everyone. Europa (henceforth to be known as Elise) is taking this all remarkably well. In fact, she even encouraged us to go through with it. She mentioned there was a third option that would've allowed Luna to live on, though it would have required a drastic revision to her personality, and in effect, the new tulpa wouldn't have been Luna at all, but someone new. I don't think you've told the whole story here. Wasn't Luna just fine? Why would you need to revise Luna's personality?
glitchthe3rd June 4, 2012 Author June 4, 2012 I don't think you've told the whole story here. Wasn't Luna just fine? Why would you need to revise Luna's personality? As it turns out, no, she wasn't fine. In fact she was days away from snapping and trying to kill me. Or perhaps more accurately, maybe one possession session? (I'm sure there is a "correct" way to do possession, but the way we were doing things was wrong, I guess). As for the revision, it would've been the way to purge her of the corruption without killing her, but as I'd mentioned, she'd have to sacrifice her personality in the process, becoming someone completely different with a similar form. In short, our choices were to kill her and destroy the wonderland, merge with her/absorb her (I'm hearing conflicting views on this one) which ended up destroying the wonderland anyway, or try to save her and end up with someone who effectively isn't Luna anymore. "Science isn't about why, science is about why not?" -Cave Johnson Tulpae: Luna, Elise, Naomi My progress report
Pronas June 4, 2012 June 4, 2012 You ever thought that maybe you were just scared of possession and made an excuse to absorb her so she wont try it again?
Guest June 4, 2012 June 4, 2012 As it turns out, no, she wasn't fine. In fact she was days away from snapping and trying to kill me. Or perhaps more accurately, maybe one possession session? (I'm sure there is a "correct" way to do possession, but the way we were doing things was wrong, I guess). As for the revision, it would've been the way to purge her of the corruption without killing her, but as I'd mentioned, she'd have to sacrifice her personality in the process, becoming someone completely different with a similar form. In short, our choices were to kill her and destroy the wonderland, merge with her/absorb her (I'm hearing conflicting views on this one) which ended up destroying the wonderland anyway, or try to save her and end up with someone who effectively isn't Luna anymore. Holy fuck, how do you know that she would do that? Seriously? Did you kill her because you were afraid of losing control?
Lunanite June 4, 2012 June 4, 2012 I have a question or two. How did you absorb Luna into you? How has it affected you, other than what you've said. Any plans on a new tulpa to help keep Elise company, or is she fine? *oraginal signiture dnt stl plz* Lazy forcer extraordinaire. Also _lewd.
glitchthe3rd June 4, 2012 Author June 4, 2012 No, I wasn't afraid of losing control. I trusted her enough to not do something phenomenally stupid with my body, that's not the issue here. As for how I knew about this, how do I describe this... it's like my subconscious gets ahold of an idea, and then does everything it can to make it happen, and no matter how hard I fight it it eventually wins out. This only seems to kick in if it senses some kind of extreme imbalance, in this case saving me from the tulpa that was about to be consumed by hate/corruption/some other shit. Hence why we went a year without anything major happening, and then today, everything changed. "Science isn't about why, science is about why not?" -Cave Johnson Tulpae: Luna, Elise, Naomi My progress report
G|d30n June 4, 2012 June 4, 2012 As for how I knew about this, how do I describe this... it's like my subconscious gets ahold of an idea, and then does everything it can to make it happen, and no matter how hard I fight it it eventually wins out. Progess on my tulpa, Lauren. Lauren's survey and stylometric test.
glitchthe3rd June 4, 2012 Author June 4, 2012 I have a question or two. How did you absorb Luna into you? How has it affected you, other than what you've said. Any plans on a new tulpa to help keep Elise company, or is she fine? Like I said, I feel much better. No more having to be bitter and angry about everything. As for how it happened, her form became filled with light, then she exploded into billions of tiny points of light, which got reabsorbed into me. Some of them went into Elise and also the Blackberry she used to keep track of things in the wonderland. It caused Elise to start talking and the Blackberry looks different now too, it's bigger with a glossy black casing instead of a red casing. Elise also says she has the memories of every servitor I've ever made, which Luna said she'd had as well. I'm probably not going to make any more tulpas, I've already had enough crazy mindfuck shit to last me a lifetime. Elise also says she doesn't need any company as long as I'm there to pay attention to her. I will of course focus on making her the best tulpa I possibly can, and if you'll have me, I'll continue to stick around tulpa.info and contribute. "Science isn't about why, science is about why not?" -Cave Johnson Tulpae: Luna, Elise, Naomi My progress report
Deleted June 4, 2012 June 4, 2012 I know a couple of people were upset about the merge but if you felt it was for the best then I have no right to argue. If you'll stick around I'm sure you have a lot to contribute to the community. Also Vinyl wants to get to know Elise. We are all mad here
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