imahaxor November 30, 2012 November 30, 2012 No, it's not. This thread is just filled with bullshit. Do you really think, in the history of mankind, not a single person would create a tulpa (or equivalent) that defied known biology and showed it off? A tulpa can take the form of literally anything your mind can possibly conceive. You don't think that, if this were possible, someone would use this to their advantage? That's completely irrational. Regardless, it defies nearly every field of science from psychology to physics to biology. There is absolutely nothing to support the claim that a hallucination is able to physically manifest, or somehow transfer to some else via magic brain waves. It is not possible. And unless technology progresses to where anything you imagine can be physically created, it will never be possible. Sure we can agree to say that there is little to no evidence that support claims of a tulpa seen by someone other than the host, but that doesn't mean that the probability of gathering said evidence is nonexistent. My Tulpa And then it cuts to a scene where you're sitting in a padded cell.
Riku Aotsuki December 1, 2012 Author December 1, 2012 Thank you, whoever moved this. And to everyone saying the thread is BS, and people would show tulpae off... I didn't say random people. I meant to imply that one friend only. If tulpae were fully manifested to everyone it'd lose the novelty.
Guest Anonymous December 1, 2012 December 1, 2012 Sure we can agree to say that there is little to no evidence that support claims of a tulpa seen by someone other than the host, but that doesn't mean that the probability of gathering said evidence is nonexistent. The probability that evidence for physically manifesting tulpae exists is the same probability that we'll find evidence for magic ghosts who live in space and grant wishes. It is simply an idea that contradicts modern science. And mere ideas do not warrant any probability of having evidence. Thank you, whoever moved this. And to everyone saying the thread is BS, and people would show tulpae off... I didn't say random people. I meant to imply that one friend only. If tulpae were fully manifested to everyone it'd lose the novelty. So, in your mind, the idea that creating a physically manifested being of literally any shape or form and showing it to random people is ridiculous because it'd "lose novelty", but creating a physically manifested being of literally any shape or form and showing it to one friend is completely rational? You really need to take a step back and give a long hard look at your skewed perception of reality. The fact that people actually believe such nonsense is even possible shows how bad this community is getting.
MrNinetails79 December 1, 2012 December 1, 2012 Lol at the scientism-ists :-) (did I just coin a new phrase??) Step back a century, before quantum physics, say - all of known science held equally strong certainties about what was possible. Along came QPh, and blew them out of the water - any cutting edge scientist today will tell you that what most people think of as "modern science" is already outdated. It really amazes/appals me how we seem to repeat the same arrogant mistakes our forefathers did - every single generation throws up some fool who says we have figured out pretty much everything there is to know, and that all that remains is fine-tuning.... and every single one has thus far been proven dead wrong. There is always something new that turns up and turns the established certainties on their ass. You'd think we would have learnt that lesson by now.... So for those in this thread talking about the ridiculousness of having to rethink all of biology or all of physics - sorry guys and gals, but it happens repeatedly. Just when we have it all neatly, and boringly, figured out, along comes the next Einstein. Really, truly, peeps - are you sure?? Cos a real bonafide Scientist is never sure - ever. We can never prove a single theory beyond doubt - we can only continue to fail to disprove it. But this is NOT the same thing. Plus, every theory sooner or later gets replaced with something more concise - almost inevitably. The only thing in the entire universe that stays exactly the same..... Is Change Itself. Rant over lol Namaste Sam
waffles December 1, 2012 December 1, 2012 Regardless of whether or not we are sure, there is no evidence to support the claim that tulpas can physically manifest, and thus no reason to believe that it is possible. By all means go ahead and conduct experiments to this effect, but there's no reason to believe in something just because it hasn't been proven completely impossible.
Riku Aotsuki December 1, 2012 Author December 1, 2012 That's what I'm saying. And Lucid, my perception isn't SKEWED on any level. You're misinterpreting me. A tulpa that was fully physical in every way wouldn't be as novel, yes. Because a human tulpa on that level would be a human, and anyone could interact with it. I never said that was my goal, for it to be fully physical. My friend wants to see Kai, and was sad that she couldn't. The purpose of this thread wasn't to ask for people's claims one way or the other. Only to see if anyone had heard of it happening or experienced it. And since a couple of people say they HAVE, I will assume it is plausible. If, between us, I find that it cannot occur, I won't be disappointed, I'll be satisfied that I tried. Don't try to shut down something just because you haven't seen proof. There is no proof of gods, ghosts, or spirits, and billions of people believe in them. Not everything has solid evidence. I will see for myself.
Christopher Bane December 1, 2012 December 1, 2012 As much as I would like this to be true, common sense says it is currently impossible. Even with the theory of collective hallucinations it wouldn't truly be your tulpa, it would be a seperate thoughtform performing seperate actions from what the Tulpa's owner is seeing. Though at some point in the future it will most likely be possible to see someone elses tulpa with the help of technology. This is from a non-Metaphysic/Parapsychology viewpoint of course.
MrNinetails79 December 2, 2012 December 2, 2012 Common sense, firstly, ain't that common... And secondly ain't all that accurate either - with no training in science-ism to counteract, the perfectly common sensical way of looking at the reality around us is to assume that the earth is stationary and everything else moves around it/us - funnily enough, this is supported by basic experiential evidence, too LOL Not that I am saying I believe that, myself btw... Just making a point ;-p but one does have to go against common sense to figure out what appears (thus far) to be the truth about our local solar system - it's counter-intuitive to our immediate experience. So we should be very careful about anything that seems to be common sense, IMHO Namaste y'all Sam Another way of saying it is that common sense is sometimes just shorthand for "I couldn't be arsed to figure it out myself, so I just went with what the majority seem to agree on". ;-)
Guest Anonymous December 2, 2012 December 2, 2012 Armchair science Typical pseudo-intellectual bullshit spewed out by armchair scientists who watched a few episodes of Nova and suddenly know how science works. Your comparison of quantum theory makes no sense. While quantum theory did alter a few distinct areas of mathematics and physics, it didn't contradict any established theories. It was simply unsupported at the time. However, physically manifested tulpae are not only unsupported by modern science, but directly contradicts it. And you, as with every single person who I've ever argued with on the points of metaphysics, are using a straw man argument. I never said science has it all figured out. Science is simply a tool used to understand the universe, establish constant knowledge of phenomena, and understand what is and isn't possible. This also disproves your entire point of "we can only fail to disprove a theory" (which by the way is another logical fallacy). Because science is simply a tool, the phenomena it studies are not subject to change from opinion, belief, or interpretation. They are constant parts of the universe. So when you try to argue a point that defies constant, unsubjective rules of the universe with absolutely no evidence other than your unbased belief, you can't expect anyone sane, rational, or of at least an average intelligence to believe you. Ungodly amounts of stupidity Your sheer stupidity permeates every fiber of your comment. Your perception of reality is "SKEWED". Because literally one person on the internet (who has a reputation for lying) said something is possible, you consider it plausible, despite being directly opposed by science? If I claim that there are magical invisible demon ghosts who haunt outer space and grant wishes, you'd have to believe it is equally probable as well. But despite that, your entire post is filled to the brim with logical fallacies. The most obvious being ad ignorantiam and and argumentum ad populum. You really think because "billions of people believe in them" is a good argument? At one point there were over 8.5 million Nazis, with over 89 million Germans supporting the Nazis. Surely with that many followers, Hitler was completely right in what he believed. And the slaughter of millions of Africans during the height of European African colonization is completely justified because so many Europeans thought that their race and nation were so vastly superior. It is this type of faulty reasoning and a willingness to believe anything because you wish it to be true that is holding back mankind from advancing. Incoherent rambling And what the fuck were you even trying to say here?
motorheadlk December 3, 2012 December 3, 2012 I don't know that the moon is a small planet that orbits the Earth. Oh, great. For a moment I thought there was something wrong with you. I'm brazilian and my english is not really good, I'll do every mistake you imagine, but I'll try to avoid them. Tulpa: Kuruminha Age: Began on the middle of october. Form: My avatar. Sentience: Confirmed. Mindvoice: Not yet. Working on: Visualization and Mindspeaking.
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