How do you make the Tulpa visible to others?

[Sands]

Except the character =/= the tulpa.

[polarbearcub]

Except the character =/= the tulpa.

 

What do you mean the character does not equal the Tulpa? :O

[Sands]

Because the fictional character of a book series does not live inside your head. Because the tulpa has not lived this character's life. Because the tulpa has their own life they live, so their experiences are different. Because the tulpa will make their own choices not written by the author of the book. Because the tulpa will deviate. Because the tulpa is their own person and they could never be exactly like anyone else, no matter how hard they try, because they are themselves. They can look like the character, speak like the character, even sort of act like the character, but they are not the character. Because their past is different, so they could never be the same.

[Ayanami_Sohryu]

Having discovered this site - I am very intrigued... What about the "collective unconscious" of Jung? Materialising group "hallucinations" happened several times during World War One - when soldiers in the trenches saw angels. i disagree that you would require 4.5 exajoules to materialise a tulpa - thoughts can influence objects at the quantum level with no problem... This has been proven scientifically and beyond doubt by a plethora of world reknowned physicists. Shared thoughts - especially in a ritualised setting would make this easier. As thoughts have no mass in the conventional sense - I see no reason why "Tulpae" could not be shared.

 

 

Yes, this is the sort of thing that led me to join this site and become involved with creating a thoughtform. The Collective Unconscious is something we should all tap into more often.

[Lacquer]

Uh, that's not what the collective unconscious is. As Jung understood it, and as everyone who accepts it today understands it, it is a set of "evolutionary memories" that contribute to certain human predispositions, such as language and fear of snakes. It is not a living thing that can be "accessed". It is a completely different concept.

 

If what you guys are talking about exists, it should be called something else, because "collective unconscious" is already taken. Then again, "tulpa" was already taken...

[Ayanami_Sohryu]

Are memories not life itself?

 

What says anything isn't alive?

 

Jung linked the collective unconscious to 'what Freud called "archaic remnants" - mental forms whose presence cannot be explained by anything in the individual's own life and which seem to be aboriginal, innate, and inherited shapes of the human mind'.

 

You are looking at it from the minimal interpretation.

[Shadow Man]

The issue is complex, no matter whether you are spiritual or not it is a statement of the matter that we are taking something that we have created/forged/summoned that is non-physical and making it physical. If we see this from a spiritual perspective we can think about how we exist as a spiritual body and are then placed into these physical forms, in some way or another (i have heard of spiritual people that disagree with this and think the the body and soul are made together but they are a minority) so the great nature of the universe and (if you beleive in it) the universal spirit act to turn something from spieritual into a physical thing, and take note this is done with pregnancy and birth in Humans, which take 9 months. So I am unsure whether this is really something a human can do. The onyl way around it would be to share the Tulpa, by getting the person to meditate whilst you meditate, and forge a form of shared mind-ness where you think in a very similar way so that your mind and their mind are highly similar and almost indistinguishable and then get that person to Tulpa-Force your Tulpa and by that standard you will share the Tulpa.

[Mowgly]

On other news, page six is broken I click it and it says I can't access it.

[Pronas]

cuz mods=gods

[Tulpony]

Not sure if this has been mentioned, or if it's just a stupid idea, but what if multiple people tried making the same tulpa? I remember someone mentioning a tulpa-ish thing that got passed through generations, so in theory the same tulpa can live through multiple people. Have the original group try to work on the exact same form, personality, etc., talk to each other to make sure their concept of the tulpa stays synchronized, and any time someone says they see the tulpa in a certain spot, the others should try to see the tulpa in that spot as well. As long as they're careful never to doubt what the others are saying, they should be able to bend their perceptions of the tulpa in response to the others' cues until they all have one tulpa, or at least several synchronized copies of one tulpa. It would be trickier for newcomers, as they would have to be taught everything about the tulpa from scratch until they understand it as perfectly as the originals, but they could at least pull off the generational thing.

 

Or not. First time in metaphysics section.