Lack of Finished Tulpas

[Hihocheerio]

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[Guest]

He's got a point, though, Hihocheerio; all this slacking and procrastination kills everything.

[Waterbijdewijn]

Speaking of procrastination, I talked about it on /lit/ yesterday. And you, Fede-lasse, you post a lot here and you don't seem to have a progress post. Do you procrestinate? You seem to have read up a lot of it, but you don't have a fully functional pony, do you? I'm thinking of starting up a progress thread, why don't you?

ED: I just found your thread, not too much in there.

[Hihocheerio]

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[Pleeb]

I love how that guest used the words "everypony," etc. I remember doing that it /x/ one time; called someone bashing the /mlp/ tulpa topics a "silly filly" and everyone freaked out.

 

And you, Fede-lasse, you post a lot here and you don't seem to have a progress post. Do you procrestinate? You seem to have read up a lot of it, but you don't have a fully functional pony, do you? I'm thinking of starting up a progress thread, why don't you?

ED: I just found your thread, not too much in there.

While Fede doesn't actually update his progress thread (since he thinks all progress is uninteresting and not worth posting or something like that), the man is always forcing; way more than I do, probably.

[Sock]

I can't speak for everyone else, but I try to keep working on mine regularly. I'm hardly perfect, and have missed some session, but even on those days I've made sure to narrate to her or acknowledge her existence. Currently, I've been having problems with intrusive junk thoughts making it nigh impossible to keep focused on my tulpa for more than a few seconds during forcing sessions, so I spent a chunk of yesterday just meditating to clear it out, and I did some more a few minutes ago. I'll be doing a lot more meditating and forcing today.

 

I am also certain that she tried to talk again today; the voice was garbled an unintelligible, but it was distinctly different from any of my own mental voices, and had much more volume.

[Virgil]

I dunno. To me the real imbalance isnt so much between being 'done' its between vocalization and nothing at all…

 

I share your and Hihocheerio's sentiments. This isn't how I envisioned the community and its tulpas in May when I had lurked the /mlp/ threads for some time and was about to join these forums.

There are too many dedicated people who've spent months creating tulpas and still haven't got consistent verbal respnses.

However, For all we know, the creation process may be in this regard akin to instilling a mental skill into procedural memory or learning a language — anyone can do that, but some people are much better at such tasks, and it takes them considerably less time to complete them. They learn easily or know how to learn efficiently. Either way, they're lucky. Everyone's different, but the overall intrinsic structure of the brain is fairly similar for all people.

Then again, as you indicated, some may be unable to succeed no matter how hard they try. Perhaps it's some inessential characteristic that's required to create a tulpa. It might not be very well developed in some people, and some might even lack it altogether.

I should say I'm not very convinced by FAQ Man's statement that out of 30 to 40 persons that persist, only two on the average fail, and that it's likely due to possible aberrance of the methods they used. Irish also has helped many people, so he could tell us more about the success rate. Unfortunately, he's gone as well. We definitely need more statistical data on this.

[Sock]

 

I share your and Hihocheerio's sentiments. This isn't how I envisioned the community and its tulpas in May when I had lurked the /mlp/ threads for some time and was about to join these forums.

There are too many dedicated people who've spent months creating tulpas and still haven't got consistent verbal respnses.

 

I've only seen one case of this on this forum, and so far, two people who started in May seem to have their Tulpa completed. mitchdevano cranked his out in a few weeks of extreme forcing sessions, and G|d30n's has just recently started to speak regularly. Though, these users do not post very often, with Devano rarely posting at all, so their accomplishment is drowned out by all the other people in progress chattering amongst themselves.

 

If you're having difficulty, the best I can say is that you should stick to it. It was already clear that this process would take months from the outset, so you should not let the first month of no progress get you down. This exercise feels to be not only a test of concentration, but also dedication. My tulpa is not yet completed, so I cannot speak with absolute authority, but I know that giving up at anything rarely turns out positive.

[Guest]

Required skills - ability to work with your imagination, subconsciousness. And any person after some training able to do it. In that sense 40 out of 40 are able to create tulpa. But I don't know of any imagination/subconsciousness lessons in schools or most of universities. Because imagination is for kids and subconsciousness for psychiatrists.

Those skills like any skills require time, dedication to start blooming. You can't learn it in 1 day no matter how talented you are. If you successfully was learning for several years autogenic training, yoga(spiritual aspects including), hypnosis, meditation, positive visualisation or anything else - creating tulpa will be much easier for you, because you already have sharpened tools with you.

Remembering other thread, I'll just add that tulpaforcing is not a method but a task. You first should learn at least basics, before staring work on bigger task.

Work with human brain almost always requires individual approach. That is the reason behind fast success and fruitless struggle for months. Sometimes changing little detail in your approach can give immediate results far better than you expect. For all those who have slow progress or no progress at all - don't lose your hope. It may seem you are lost in the dark and there is no way to succeed after all, but one new step and maybe you will bump onto your tulpa in this darkness. In the end you are the ones who decided to venture into the world of tulpas without any preparations.

[Beelze_pog]

Completely agree with Sock. It's taken three weeks for him to speak and his face is still a little vague, but I've just got to stick with it because I know it'll be worth it in the end.